Why are the chisel ground Emersons ground on the "wrong" side?

STR said:
The side the grind is on is the "presentation" or "logo" side of the blade and folder when opened for when it poses for pictures on websites. Imagine how it would look if the grind was on the opposite side and all you saw in the pictures was a flat side and a logo on that flat side. There is your answer.

STR
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thats how CG strykers are & they look fine to me lol.

imho grinding a CQC7 RH still wont make it a good utility knife though if thats what ya are looking for get a spyderco delica or something similar to it, i've always liked CG's myself and have carried a lot of them from different brands RH and LH grind and it just doesnt make a lotta difference, CG's are fine for most stuff & are ok as utility knives as they are currently ground but no CG is very good for fine cutting or whitteling really, they will do it, but they arent gonna be as good as a v grind.

i honestly couldnt care less that EKI's are ground LH, and couldnt care less if ernie woke up sunday AM and decided to change to RH grind, just dont matter to me,
 
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Longnecks? I want a shot of the stuff Emerson gives out at his shows. :D:thumbup:
 
I am a Cream Ale man when I tip a beer. Local brew. The phrase mentioned is pretty simple really. You can take any knife with a dull blade and it ain't gonna cut worth a hoot including the chisel grind if it is dull. Now you sharpen that knife up so it will cleanly shave hair or paper or wood or what have you and pretty simple here again it will cut pretty darn well. The chisel edge does tend to wander a bit like a waviness to the actual cut but again I think this is what makes the wound maybe a bit worse than a straight slash or what have you from a non chise grind. Also the juncture of the point and main edge where the two edges meet focuses the impact of the cut on that area so it just goes deeper. Now does this all really matter in a life and death situation or with a piece of fruit or meat on you plate. I personally don't think so. I'm gettin the hell out of Dodge when it comes to playing with knives with other folks. I ain't gonna stick around to compare cuts, blade shapes or this or that I'll tell ya that right now!

I still want to know what Emerson is referring to as in parasitic cutting action or whatever it says. That definitely doesn't make any sense to me but I could be missing something. Also a true chisel grind is flat on one side and beveled on the other. Supposedly adds strength to the edge somehow but am no expert here either. I haven't chipped any 7's I have owned but have seen the edge chipped on several but that could be the medium being cut as in hitting staples or what have you. Hope all this helps, keepem sharp
 
For what it's worth, the chisel grind is the sharpest grind period. Take a look at a razor knife, xacto knife, disposable Bic razor, etc...Wood working chisels have been the same since the dawn of mankind. CQC (Close Quarters Combat) is what Mr Emerson's knives were designed for. If your getting stabbed, or doing the stabbing, does it matter if it's left or right? It was designed as a TACTICAL knife, not a frickin pencil sharpener!
 
troy11766 said:
For what it's worth, the chisel grind is the sharpest grind period. Take a look at a razor knife, xacto knife, disposable Bic razor, etc...Wood working chisels have been the same since the dawn of mankind. CQC (Close Quarters Combat) is what Mr Emerson's knives were designed for. If your getting stabbed, or doing the stabbing, does it matter if it's left or right? It was designed as a TACTICAL knife, not a frickin pencil sharpener!
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To say that it's a "tactical" knife and as such can't be used for anything else is worthless. :thumbdn:
 
troy11766 said:
Wood working chisels have been the same since the dawn of mankind.
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Woodworking chisels being ground how they are has nothing to do with sharpness and everything to do with utility. As for the disposable knives that you mentioned, a chisel grind is often less expensive when it comes to production.
 
Josh K said:
To say that it's a "tactical" knife and as such can't be used for anything else is worthless. :thumbdn:
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Your missing my point! EKI has at any given time, a dozen knives to choose from. There are certain knives for certain tasks. The CQC-7 wasn't designed to be a utilitarian EDC knife, it was designed as a tactical knife. Can you use it for other reasons, sure. When you are trying to use a tool for something other than what it was designed for, don't get upset if it doesn't do it well. Could you sharpen a pencil with a Rhino, yes, but it would be difficult. I'm just saying, use the right tool for the right job, that's all.
 
troy11766 said:
Your missing my point! EKI has at any given time, a dozen knives to choose from. There are certain knives for certain tasks. The CQC-7 wasn't designed to be a utilitarian EDC knife, it was designed as a tactical knife. Can you use it for other reasons, sure. When you are trying to use a tool for something other than what it was designed for, don't get upset if it doesn't do it well. Could you sharpen a pencil with a Rhino, yes, but it would be difficult. I'm just saying, use the right tool for the right job, that's all.
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I'm missing the point? :confused:

Every one of Emerson's knives are chisel ground. Every single one. No exceptions. (Okay, there may be one, but I haven't heard about it.)
 
Josh K said:
I'm missing the point? :confused:

Every one of Emerson's knives are chisel ground. Every single one. No exceptions. (Okay, there may be one, but I haven't heard about it.)
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I agree, Mr Emerson puts a chisel grind on all of his production knives and I would guess the vast majority of his customs are chisel ground as well. The knife I EDC is a custom Ti CQC-12. It has a "V" grind on the main and edge bevels. I did this to facilitate straight line cutting, pencil sharpening, slicing tomato's, etc...I do EDC a custom Tanto strong side for self defense applications only. The chisel grind is not the best choice if the majority of the work it will be used for consists of sharpening pencils, slicing veggies, and straight line cutting. :D
 
There is only actually a few chisel ground EKIs the 7, K,bit, lagriffe and one or two others.
The rest of the knives are "V" ground but with a single edge bevel, that is not a chisel grind.

I used a 7 for many years as a utility knife at work and home with no issues at all.
A sharp knife will cut no matter what the grind is. I find its quite often the operator that causes the problems, not the knife.
 
Josh K said:
I'm missing the point? :confused:

Every one of Emerson's knives are chisel ground. Every single one. No exceptions. (Okay, there may be one, but I haven't heard about it.)
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EKI's will work just fine for utility stuff i've used mine for that since around '98 or so, i dont think they work as well at it as a spyderco delica would but i cant think of anything you couldnt do with one, i know i edc'd a tanto SOCFK for over a yr and never once found myself thinking "gee i cant use this knife for <fill in the blank>" so they will work in this role like imho most anything thats sharp would like haze said, notice i said work, for fine cutting and stuff like sharpening pencils a std "V" grind works a bit better,

with the right techniques a CG can get plenty sharp enough for anything, as will all the other EKI's with the single bevel too, if yours "wont get sharp" its because you arent using the right methods to sharpen it.

i promise you my production '12 will shave hair off the arm and trim thin strips off ciggarette paper, no problem at all, my tanto SOCFK is also about as sharp.
 
Longbow, if the CRKT aren't chisel ground then what are they? a lot of people are misinformed as well. Are they a vgrind with a one edge bias? that's all i can think of.

Respectfully, Edward
 
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