Why Busse?

The carboard sheath of course.

Nah, I think a few have said it all. I'll just say it in a few words

Because Busse Rocks!!!
 
I heard that Busse is the best because they have the best janitor. :thumbup:
 
I would like to say....I don't know why a Busse. I am caught up in something and it really can't be explained. All the technical stuff has been stated, but......(and this is where I ponder my very intense attraction to a piece of steel)......I find that at times I say to myself..."that's it...that's enough...you don't need all these knives and you don't need to buy more" and then there for the offering is a new subject.......a new piece of steel.......and I crave it and then I scramble like a maniac, heart pounding......hoping that my computer connection is fast enough to score the latest....."Busse". And I bask in euphoric bliss of having to wait for it's arrival.......or I agonize in bewilderment at a failed attempt to get "IT", But you know, that's where the thrill is.....that's the attraction.....and it doesn't get much better when you score.......and if you don't.......someone may come along and make your day. So, why Busse........I don't know. All I know is it feels good. And when it feels good, it is good. So, Busse is good......:) Peace, John
 
Well made production knife with better perfomance than some low- and mid grade custom knives. They are worth the money, especially because the company stands behind their product without any compromise. That's rare in these days.

The steel price, however, has little to do witht the product price. The most expensive steel I ever bought on an industrial scale was about $ 1550.- a ton, and that was not INFI, cpm3v, or ATS-34, but some out of this world rare stuff for parts for the military.

Now, a metric ton makes quite a few rats, probably over 1.000 of them. So what's the material cost there?
 
Walt-FL said:
Well made production knife with better perfomance than some low- and mid grade custom knives. They are worth the money, especially because the company stands behind their product without any compromise. That's rare in these days.

The steel price, however, has little to do witht the product price. The most expensive steel I ever bought on an industrial scale was about $ 1550.- a ton, and that was not INFI, cpm3v, or ATS-34, but some out of this world rare stuff for parts for the military.

Now, a metric ton makes quite a few rats, probably over 1.000 of them. So what's the material cost there?
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I see where your coming from, but surely they don't order in this huge quantity?? Thats overkill I'd have thought...

If that IS the case, then I am sure that buying in smaller bulk would cost more, as with all massive bulk buying... the more you buy, the lower the cost (usually)

I've read somewhere that INFI is a very dear steel... and although you've bought some really rare stuff, - someone correct me if I'm wrong - but doesn't Jerry get this stuff made up to his own bespoke specifications???


Walt-FL said:
Well made production knife with better perfomance than some low- and mid grade custom knives.
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Although I only own the one INFI blade, I have done a lot of research, and have loved knives for years... if you can show me a custom made knife that uses a better steel, I would like to see it (not being sarcy... I would like to know of it...) - one that springs back to true after being bent 40 degrees in a vice, one that is shaving sharp after huge abuse, and one that DOESN'T CHIP....

:)


If I'm well off here, I apologise for being niave... I'm only a piglet in training ;)
 
I would assume (if making knives is like anything else) --- that the major cost factor is labor.

Although I do not doubt that materials are expensive -- especially when they come from another world like INFI ;)
 
Honestly, I think Datsgor is more right than any of us would like to admit. It does feel really good... I got an email from Amy yesterday telling me I scored something --- and wow, i actually did a "happy dance." But for my wife's eyes only!
 
Jerry has mentioned the difference in the price of INFI stock vs. what ends up being SR101 and the cost difference was VERY significant according to him.
 
xaman said:
I would assume (if making knives is like anything else) --- that the major cost factor is labor.
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Just think of the cost of all the booze Jerry has to keep pumping into his staff. That's where the real cost is. :thumbup:
 
Tyrkon Lawson said:
Just think of the cost of all the booze Jerry has to keep pumping into his staff. That's where the real cost is. :thumbup:
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It's not just the Busse staff. Jerry & Co. are keeping Johnny Walker and Coors Light afloat. Think of all the other jobs that would be lost if they suddenly were unable to keep drinking.
 
Walt-FL said:
The steel price, however, has little to do witht the product price. The most expensive steel I ever bought on an industrial scale was about $ 1550.- a ton, and that was not INFI, cpm3v, or ATS-34, but some out of this world rare stuff for parts for the military.

Now, a metric ton makes quite a few rats, probably over 1.000 of them. So what's the material cost there?
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This should answer most of the questions on this topic. :thumbup:
Here's some interesting reading from posts Jerry made in the past addressing this issue.
In this post, Jerry compares prices with other manufacturers. Also keep in mind the dates of this post. So the poor customer service and poor website he talks about have been fixed, and are the best in the buisness today! :thumbup:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135298&highlight=pound


Here he mentions how most steels cost $0.50 per pound and the final cost of INFI is $32.00 per pound... And that figure was in year 2000! So mark that up a bit.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135585&highlight=pound
 
with busse's heat treament:

Infi has never chipped.
Yet it maintains 60-62rc.


That alone makes the company worth looking into.
 
The design of Busse knives was what got my attention at first.
They just seem to fit perfect in my hand.
Later I found out that Infi is a pretty good steel too.

I think Busses are not that much more expensive than others if you buy them direkt from Busse. Secondary marked is another story of course.

The performance and warranty is surpassing and well worth the extra money.
The warranty is on the knive and not on the first owner.
There are no if's, or's and but's in the Life Time Warranty.
You break it they fix or replace it.
Not like other company's which try to weasel out of a warranty clame.

And finally the people have a great additude and a family like spirit.
This makes the knives even more enjoyable because it is a lot of fun to talk/chat to people with the same addiction.
 
I throw a lot of Different kinds and styles of knives, I have no real excuse for why I do it.

I have bent and or Snapped lots of knives, mostly from throwing them.

While I have bent Busse knives throwing them I have not yet broken one (Except for the tip of an A-2 Mean Street)

I have at least one expensive set of throwing knives I think Bob Patrick made them.

I throw continue to throw Busse Knives because they seem to stand up to it well, and because it is fun to do so.

Also because there are so many different sizes and weights that it makes it easy to increase Knife throwing Skills.
 
papathud said:
I throw a lot of Different kinds and styles of knives, I have no real excuse for why I do it.

I have bent and or Snapped lots of knives, mostly from throwing them.

While I have bent Busse knives throwing them I have not yet broken one (Except for the tip of an A-2 Mean Street)

I have at least one expensive set of throwing knives I think Bob Patrick made them.

I throw continue to throw Busse Knives because they seem to stand up to it well, and because it is fun to do so.

Also because there are so many different sizes and weights that it makes it easy to increase Knife throwing Skills.
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Have you ever broken the scales or rivets from throwing them?
 
I was a fan of Buck knives. I would swear by them. When I found out they now make some of them in China I am a former Buck user. I doubt that you will EVER get a Busse made in China. No matter what Busse you get, it will be made to the best standards. There is no compromise. To me it is not about keeping it in America as much as it is pride in workmanship. The Busse family make very good stuff. I like the fact that whatever Busse I finally decide to buy in the coming year it will perform flawlessly. I would recommend them to anyone. If I were to recommend a Buck to someone I would have to tell them to get a USA one, then probably have to find it for them. I could tell someone to get a Busse and not have to worry about them get screwed. I love Chris Reeve knives as well. He lived in South Africa and made the best knife available, and only available from Africa. I would have bought one then and I will buy one now, because it is the best possible. They are now made in the US but either way they are made to the best possible specs.
 
hawkinsa21 said:
Although I only own the one INFI blade, I have done a lot of research, and have loved knives for years... if you can show me a custom made knife that uses a better steel, I would like to see it (not being sarcy... I would like to know of it...) - one that springs back to true after being bent 40 degrees in a vice, one that is shaving sharp after huge abuse, and one that DOESN'T CHIP....

:)


If I'm well off here, I apologise for being niave... I'm only a piglet in training ;)
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Actually I was saying that it's hard to find a better knife than a Busse or a Rat, even in the low end custom field.

True, the more steel you buy the cheaper. If I was purchase manager at at a knife manufacturer I'd probably buy a couple of tons at a time. Even if it takes 3-6 moths to go though it, the steel won't go bad, and it's also not getting cheaper as time goes by.
If it was true that INFI is made especially for the knife maker, the steel factory won't make just a bar or two. Even companies like Crucible need at least an order that justifies turning on a furnace.
 
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