Why Busse?

[Vivi]

For someone who owns a HI Kuhkuri for their large chopping knife, has a small amount of disposable income and is very satisfied with the performance of his current knives, what advantages would a Busse knife offer me?

 

[wetdog1911]

CAUSE RATS SUCK!!!

Better add more to the above so I don't get lynched Overall materials, fit and finish, quality in steel, better personnel working there (I only speak to Busse, so this is just heresay), and because while swamp rat and scrap yard are good, they ain't Jerry Busse Good!!!

HHmmmmmmm ...........

OK, talk smack about Jerry's wife (The Queen Rat) and Jerry's brother (The scrapyard dog?), and let's see where you get. LOL

Seriously, I've had Rats before I had Busse and NONE have ever come up short in the 5 years that I've been using them.

I just use what ever's appropriate for the task at hand.

Each will get the job done with no worries.

Don't have a scrapyard yet, so I really can't comment.

What amazes me the most, is how Swamp Rat went from users to collectors. Someone needs a dose of reality here.

Swamp Rats=Safe Queens?!??!!!

C'mon folks, the're just knives! Let's get real.

Rob

 

[dialton]

For someone who owns a HI Kuhkuri for their large chopping knife, has a small amount of disposable income and is very satisfied with the performance of his current knives, what advantages would a Busse knife offer me?

None. If you are perfectly happy with what you have, look no further. Save yourself the trouble. I used to be happy with other knives as well. Don't buy one. RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Last Visible Canary]

For someone who owns a HI Kuhkuri for their large chopping knife, has a small amount of disposable income and is very satisfied with the performance of his current knives, what advantages would a Busse knife offer me?

I've owned 20 some odd HI blades pretty consistantly for the past 2 years now, sometimes more, sometimes less. I've been through almost their entire line and the range of sizes for each.

Likewise, I've owned several rats, and I've owned a lot of different models of busse. The only thing I never got into with busse was the smaller ergo line, and the 80's stuff because I never had the money for it. I'm now extremely dedicated in what I want out of the knives I buy, so I'm lucky in that a great deal of the new and old lines are no longer personally appealing outside of a general appreciation for knife design and collecting.


I agree with the above posts, if your in a situation where your satisfied with your knives, you may not need anything more. It depends on what you want out of your knives. If your looking for something very very thin and very very hard, it's not likely that your going to find it in any of Busse Combat lines past or present.

There are a few benefits to busse knives that are unique in general. The blade steel and its heat treatment make it essentially impossible to chip, reletively easy to sharpen, and good at wear resistance. It also gives it a very high lateral strength making it good at prying and maintaining under torqueing stress. This all leads to it being very difficult to damage, and easy to fix when you do.

Their warrentee is second to none, and they will fix any major damage incured on the knife. If it does break - you'll get it fixed or get a new one.

There is a variety of blade designs, profiles, and handle geometries/shapes/sizes available on the after market from busse combat that fit a number of purposes, from thin(ish) edc slicer (LMRS, ABA3), chefs knife (NICK), heavy chopper (FBM, MOAB), small concealable edc (thick and thin - AS, AD, GW), sharpened prybar (PD), general duty all purpose (SJTAC), and fighters (FNMOASH, BARF). As well as a full custom knife shop where you can design your own knife (though there is a long wait time).


If none of the things above interest you, then there is no reason to invest in something you dont want. If you are looking for a specific type of knife for a specific set of tasks, you may find that there is a busse knife that provides a different or better type of performance then you are currently getting out of your knives.

Busse is not the catch all for knife chores, and there are some things that fall outside of the companies production line scope of abilities, such as extreme thin blades with ultra high wear resistance, and ultra heavy choppers (1/2" thick etc). But those area's that it does have knives available in, they stand out for their type of performance given the steel and heat treatment, combined with the warrantee and the basic geometry features.

 

[benjammin2]

Hmm, let's put it this way. If you are out in the field doing dog work on a pile of wood say, from an orchard or some such, and your Khukri hits a 10p nail that someone put into a limb, or maybe a rock that got driven in funny as the pile got moved around, how does that notion make you feel about what would happen to the edge of your knife? That same situation with a Busse would not be a concern. Can anyone else relate to that?

Also, in an edge to edge test, Busse steel will dent SR-101. I don't recommend that test, but I just had to know. It wasn't pretty, but it decided some things for me.

 

[lancelot]

Hmm, let's put it this way. If you are out in the field doing dog work on a pile of wood say, from an orchard or some such, and your Khukri hits a 10p nail that someone put into a limb, or maybe a rock that got driven in funny as the pile got moved around, how does that notion make you feel about what would happen to the edge of your knife? That same situation with a Busse would not be a concern. Can anyone else relate to that?

benjammin2, that's actually why I got my first Busse blade. Don't get me wrong, I love my Fallkniven A1 and it has treated me well, but last summer went camping with some buddies, and one of the knuckleheads asks to borrow my knife. That should have been the red flag right there. About 15 minutes later he brings it back to me after dismantling a crate he ran across, and sure enough, the edge has more dings than my freaking credit card.

So I got a HH, and have since never had that problem. First time I used it I was batoning another of said crates and drove the blade right into a big rock. Everyone was impressed that there was no visible edge damage.

Great comfort in knowing my knife can take the abuse that comes its way -- unintentionally, mind you -- although I'd never go chop a block of concrete w/ my Prescious, it's good to know that if I happen to nail a rock (or a nail for that matter), I don't have to spend 15 minutes the next day taking off alot of good steel as a result.:thumbup:

 

[Raining]

Most people will never need the extreme performance capabilities of a Busse Combat knife, in which case there are plenty of great knives to be found. But, if you’re one of the rare breed of individuals whose knife could someday be called upon to save your life or the lives of others, and you live in a world where compromise almost always means certain failure, then there is no other choice. Busse Combat knives are the only choice.

This quote from Jerry perfectly summarizes why I own Busse knives. :thumbup:

 

[straitshot]

The same can be said of many implements: A $10 camera will take a picture and a $2 wrench will tighten a nut and bolt. The difference will become clear only when failure has unacceptable consequences. One must set his own limits on the law of diminishing returns, such as the accuracy of a firearm or embellishment of a custom knife.
One may ask the same of any differences between production knives and the 'Busse Family' line of knives. Swamp Rat and Scrapyard knives are made without compromise and will exceed the expectations of anyone who makes extraordinary demands on their equipment. Both are exceptional examples of hard-use cutlery.
Busse knives are made to perform as well a knife possibly can with today's knowledge and materials. When the user's hands are numb from cold, wet with mud and slime, the handle will still be firmly in grip to prevent slipping onto the blade. When the animal went down at sunset so time is a factor and you don't enjoy fumbling through a pack to find the pocket sharpener to "touch up", a superior heat-treat temper will be appreciated. To resheath "dirty" and clean at a more opportune time without the evils of corrosion, INFI is more forgiving. Put it in a leather pouch sheath (with just the right amount of tension) so your firearm won't clunk against Kydex or the knife, and you don't have to fumble with a strap or snap, and the right model of Busse Combat becomes not the "perfect" hunting implement, but the "ideal". How much is this worth? A Busse knife will be used and appreciated long after the purchase price is a fading memory. When someone asks (and they will), you can answer "It's a Busse... none better".
If you can afford a Scrapyard, it's not a compromise in any way, and neither is a Swamp Rat. Both are "superior" and the "best" for many uses. A Busse Combat is simply an end to the quest for the "ideal".

 

[Jamesh Bond]

Well said, man!

 

[dialton]

Now thats what I call a first post straitshot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cobalt]

this is why busse

Radiused transitions on the Busses family knives and square transition on the COLD STEEL

COLD STEEL

http://www.oz.net/~malinski/Turber_test/

 

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[kuribo]

I can't help but wonder if any of these people using a knife to chop wood have ever heard the phrase "the right tool for the job"??? Ever heard of something called an "axe"? Yeah, sure, your f-16 gets shot down over enemy territory and all you have is your man knife to hack through the jungle and cut down those enemy trees, not much choice. But what's so difficult about putting that axe in your trunk or making that long walk from the back yard to the garage?

I suppose it is a bit "gee whiz cool, my big knife can sure chop wood!"...Maybe it impresses the kids, wife, camping buds, I don't know...I do know that the old axe works great, is a lot safer, and is designed for the task...

 

[kuribo]

Glad I don't have killer bowling pins pulling home invasions in my neighborhood! Damn! Those little bastards look deadly!

 

[Cobalt]

here we go again. Do you sub 100 post joined in 2006 members all crawl out from under the same rock.:thumbdn:

Cool, carry your big axe , along with all the other stuff you will need to make up for not having a blade.

Also if you cannot see how easy a blade batons through really tough bowling pins and how that relates then you need to get out of your cubicle and actually get out a bit.

 

[kuribo]

So having more posts somehow makes one ..... ???? What, have a bigger blade???? Coming from someone who appears to be chopping bowling pins on a concrete floor in open toed sandals, it can't make one smarter....Seems with 6000+ posts, you are the one who needs to get out of your cubicle a bit!

Never said there wasn't a use for a big blade...just that chopping wood might best be done by something actually designed for it....By the background in the pictures, it would seem that the user was simply playing backyard commando....Nothing wrong with that, everyone needs a fantasy...

I don't need to baton through bowling pins with a knife as I have more appropriate tools for such jobs though I doubt I will ever need to as they rarely attack here. I use my knives for what they were designed for. I know they will cut through bowling pins just like I know my 300 mag will kill squirrels. Not really the right tool for the job though, so I use something more appropriate when squirrel hunting....

 

[David Brown]

But it is sooooooo cool to watch thier heads explode when you shoot them with a 300 magnum!!!!!!!!!


And the videos are very nice.


One more thing my sword is bigger than your axe

 

[Jamesh Bond]

Now thats what I call a first post straitshot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I asked a simple, rational question out of pure curiosity. I got a great, well-written answer and acknowledged it.

 

[kuribo]

Guess I have a different idea of what is cool....killing for fun isn't one of them.....