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Why carry a big knife?

Or 7.62x54r, basically a higher power 30-06.
A Mosin-Nagant platform M44 carbine should do quite nicely for bear, especially loaded with standard Russian milsurp ammo. That stuff will blow the whole head of the bear off and quite possibly fracture your shoulder, I'm sure.

nahh pointy round nose rounds particularly fmjs are known to ricochet

in competition 45s are known to spin around and around in those plastic barrels before runnin out of momentum

and a mosin dont kick at all then again i have shot a full box o 31/2 in 12 ga skeet style however i was like 5'7" 130lbs at the time so ehh

and no it wont blow the head off

and that cow decapitating thing reaally got to me
 
Yeah, I was getting a wee bit over- something...
The m44 (or whatever the carbine is) would kick a little bit though.
 
I have over 60 Mosin Nagants in my collection, so I've got a bit of experience shooting 7.62x54r. The carbines tend to exhibit less recoil than the rifles due to the lower muzzle velocities. The 91's will thump you you a bit harder than the 44's and 38's.

In terms of muzzle energy and terminal ballistics, it's virtually the same as .30-06 in similar bullet weights. Nothing magical there.
 
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Yep, it's a common misconception with those rifles. Plus, with all the added hardware for the folding bayo, the M44 carbine actually weighs a bit more than the 91/30 rifle...unless you attach the bayonet to the rifle, of course. And more weight = less felt recoil.

If you really want a "soft" shooting MN, then look at the Finnish rifles. 3/4 of my collection consists of M27/28/39 rifles. The M39's are especially pleasant to shoot due to those heavy stocks.
 
I have over 60 Mosin Nagants in my collection, so I've got a bit of experience shooting 7.62x54r. The carbines tend to exhibit less recoil than the rifles due to the lower muzzle velocities. The 91's will thump you you a bit harder than the 44's and 38's.

In terms of muzzle energy and terminal ballistics, it's virtually the same as .30-06 in similar bullet weights. Nothing magical there.

ah, so, but i would add, the carbines tend to be LOUDER so perhaps people think they are kicking harder?

i do know it's most unpleasant to be next to a "sawed off" version. the M1A SOCOM for instance? even with plugs and muffs, dang. it makes my teeth rattle. esp being to the side of one.

the 91s are plenty loud, but when a guy busted out his m39 finnish iirc, i was like DANG! WHAT IS THAT? MUST HAVE :>

maybe
 
I prefer the rifle to the carbine. Seems to kick a lil less (for me anyways) and less muzzleblast...plus my rifles are more accurate then my m44.



m44s do make awesome fireballs at night with heavyball though!!!!!
 
It's certainly possible that the muzzle blast could lead to an increase in perceived recoil. I completely lost my hearing a few years ago, so I've never heard any of my MN's. I just feel them...
 
I am thinking about one of those Russian Spetsnaz knives, that can fire off the blade as a projectile. I might even design a prototype Buck 110, that can discharge the 420HC blade propelled by a .38 charge.
 
Haze240 said,"anyone remember the title of this thread?"Thanks dude!

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I don't want to see a bear end up like this crawdad,and it sounds like a lot of these folks postin' on this thread might start blasting away out of fear and ignorance at the mere sight of a bear.
 
u can't post that here if that crawdad wasn't shot with a .44 or stabbed with a bk11 onastick
 
I don't want to see a bear end up like this crawdad,and it sounds like a lot of these folks postin' on this thread might start blasting away out of fear and ignorance at the mere sight of a bear.

For some reason I don't think inviting the grizzly to have a seat while I toast him a marshmallow would have worked out to great.

This Tennessee Blacky doesn't scare me, and I would take my chances with him and a Machax

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This PNW Grizzly does, and I wouldn't take any chances. Shoot first, plenty of time to ask questions later.

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Skystorm this thread was about black bears.I remember walking along the shore of Lewis lake at dusk and seeing grizzly tracks as big as pie plates,that was a spooky feeling.It was 1991 and no firearms were allowed in Yellowstone at the time.Grizzlies are a whole different critter,as are Bengal tigers,I heard a story from a guy I trust who heard one roar late one night in the DMZ in Korea.I always wished I carried something other than a scoped M24 on my time north of the Imjin river after hearing that.
 
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In grizzly country, my knives would get smaller, and the guns would get bigger.

Here in the Smokies, both are appropriately sized. :D

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