Regarding international sales I'm in Canada and have been buying sharp things from the U.S since the late 80's without any shipping problems. I think the transition across the border mostly runs smoothly, as it should as Canada is the U.Ss number one trading partner. The amount of goods going cross the border every day is staggering. The only time i've ever run into a snag was when an friendly Ebay seller in Texas informed me it was illegal and against postal regulations for Americans to ship "sharpened things" to places outside the U.S. Apparently his community postmaster told him this...? Obviously that postie was just making up stuff. I did buy from the guy eventually,lol.
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Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
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Why CONUS only? For selling items.
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Esav Benyamin
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AusLoX, you are interpreting it irrelevently. 
The term CONUS is practically useless. All 50 states, US territories, APO, and FPO are covered by the Constitution of the United States and served by the US Postal Service. They are all part of our nation's domestic mail system.
Any seller can restrict sales to all domestic or part of it as he pleases, but saying CONUS as if it legally excludes some of our citizens is wrong. All lie within one customs union.
The term CONUS is practically useless. All 50 states, US territories, APO, and FPO are covered by the Constitution of the United States and served by the US Postal Service. They are all part of our nation's domestic mail system.
Any seller can restrict sales to all domestic or part of it as he pleases, but saying CONUS as if it legally excludes some of our citizens is wrong. All lie within one customs union.
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Esav, a quick Q on Alaska to the lower 48.
When I was in Alaska on a trip, I mailed the knives I bought back to myself to avoid airline hassels. The USPOs in Skagway and Ketchikan required that I fill out a customs form for a Texas address. Any clue as to why??
When I was in Alaska on a trip, I mailed the knives I bought back to myself to avoid airline hassels. The USPOs in Skagway and Ketchikan required that I fill out a customs form for a Texas address. Any clue as to why??
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Between forum knives, a favor or three for non-conus friends here and a handfull of higher end knives that I have sold out of my collection I have shipped between 30 to 40 over the last 10 years to non-conus folks without a failure (yet).
this is fact, from someone who deals in the VERY best knives at high rates. so there it is, it's the vetting process that matters and how you set standards like Gus does. thanks for the input.
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Between forum knives, a favor or three for non-conus friends here and a handfull of higher end knives that I have sold out of my collection I have shipped between 30 to 40 over the last 10 years to non-conus folks without a failure (yet)
Wow, impressive. He has shipped knives to the United States, and it worked? Amazing. So impressive. Must take some careful vetting.
IOW, did you actually read the thread you're commenting on?
"CONUS, a technical term used by the U.S. Department of Defense, General Services Administration, NOAA/National Weather Service, and others has been defined both as the continental United States, and as the 48 contiguous states.["
Wow! Just had my first bad experience with shipping. I wanted to purchase a knife and sent payment. The seller decided after the fact, even though I offered to cover additional shipping expenses to Canada, that he would just reject my offer and put the knife as available again. The ad did NOT state CONUS. Wow. I'm very disappointed. I've never been treated this rudely by my American brothers before. It's leaving a real bad aftertaste in my mouth.
I should mention, the knife I wanted to buy was an old timey. A friend convinced me to pick one up to try. Is this what I can expect from the segment of knife folks? I've never had any issues with tactical folders or fixed blades.
Netguy1999 left out one salient point. He never told me that he did not live in the US nor does he have his location listed in his profile. Had he been up front with that, we could have worked out the sale with no hassle. He chose to disclose the fact that he lives in Canada after the fact. I have shipped plenty of knives to Wolfgang Loerchner and never had an issue. I have also shipped to forum member Chisum to his APO address with no issues. But, Wolfgang was up front with the fact that he was in Canada and offered to pay the extra shipping charges. Netguy1999 never said a word until after the fact.
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I did agree to pay additional fees for shipping. Or at least I tried to. I got no response from my many PM's sent saying that I would cover shipping. To be fair, I don't know how much shipping a knife from one state to another is, but I'm sure it's not free. Probably around $10? Based on that assumption, and since the deal did not mention that shipping would be extra, I said I would gladly pay 10-15 additional to offset the cost of shipping above what the inter-state shipping charges would be. Because I am in Canada, there is apparently no shipping included at all (not even the amount it would cost to go inter-state). The ad also did not say CONUS, so naturally I assumed shipping to Canada would not be a big deal. Perhaps miscommunication on both sides, but to ignore my PM's saying that I would cover shipping, then to reverse my payment and put the knife back available was just insulting. Sorry, but it was.
I have sold many knives on the forum - all of them to US destinations. I do not ask for additional shipping charges as the norm on the forum is to include those in the price unless otherwise stated. To ship a knife from where I am to the US costs about $21 - the same as it does to ship from the US to where I am. I eat the cost when I sell in the US. But that's just me. Maybe I'm wrong for doing that, but that's the way I do business. The price I ask is the price you pay - all in.
Sorry, I really don't want to dredge this up again. Honestly, I'd still love to buy that knife of yours as it is very beautiful and exactly what I was looking for. But being treated so rudely makes it a hard pill to swallow. Please PM me if we can come to some agreement, but it's not fair to have included shipping in the US, and zero shipping included to Canada. Let's be fair, both ways.
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Listen, I don't want to get into a he-said-he-said here. Let's just say there was a lapse in communication on both sides and leave it at that. I will still buy the knife and pay the difference between what it would cost to ship inter-state and what it is to ship to Canada. Up to you.
AusLoX, you are interpreting it irrelevently.
The term CONUS is practically useless. All 50 states, US territories, APO, and FPO are covered by the Constitution of the United States and served by the US Postal Service. They are all part of our nation's domestic mail system.
Any seller can restrict sales to all domestic or part of it as he pleases, but saying CONUS as if it legally excludes some of our citizens is wrong. All lie within one customs union.
I understand what you're saying but what I was trying to say was that CONUS meant that the seller will only ship to US 48. I was just making sure I had that clear. Nothing to do with a legal interpretation. That's just how I always understood the meaning and I wanted to make sure everyone else was on the same page. If not, I will read CONUS as meaning the US 50.
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The problem is, different people misunderstand it in different ways. That makes it ambiguous, and therefore inherently confusing.
I have shipped and received a lot of stuff internationally over the years and only ever had one issue that was a package lost domestically.
For international sales, both the buyer and the seller needs to be aware of the laws and the carrier's policies.
For example, if you are Canadian, you need to be aware that if you are buying something from the US, YOU are the importer of record. Once the goods are on Canadian soil, they are your responsibility. You must pay applicable taxes on them and you are responsible for ensuring the legality and proper representation of said goods, not the seller.
For international sales, both the buyer and the seller needs to be aware of the laws and the carrier's policies.
For example, if you are Canadian, you need to be aware that if you are buying something from the US, YOU are the importer of record. Once the goods are on Canadian soil, they are your responsibility. You must pay applicable taxes on them and you are responsible for ensuring the legality and proper representation of said goods, not the seller.
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This is an important point. There are many knives that are legal in the US that are not in Canada. For instance, I would love an auto but those are prohibited in Canada. Kind of a silly law considering most flippers open just as fast, if not faster, than an auto.
The biggest issue when shipping to Canada is HOW you ship it. If you use USPS, that is the easiest and least expensive for both parties with a flat rate duty of, I believe, $6USD for items of value up to $999. If you use UPS, that is the most expensive and will guarantee the package being held up at the border for at least a week or more as they have their own broker and assess customs and duty according to value. For a $600 item, they will request the recipient pay approximately $110USD for customs and duty. Never use UPS. Fedex is not bad for customs and duty, but falls somewhere in between USPS and UPS for shipping costs. In the end, just plain old USPS is the way to go for hassle free shipping.
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Well, I guess there's my answer. No response. Oh well, I'm sure another great GEC will turn up for me to buy.
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From the time I sent a PM to you stating I would add more funds for shipping, you didn't respond for almost 2.5 hours. Then, after saying no thanks, you posted that the knife was available and returned my paypal. I would call that ignoring without giving further dialog a chance. I don't see how that is untruthful on my part. Check the times on your PMs. I can post a screen shot, if you would like. I really don't understand how me almost begging to give you more money for shipping and you just rejecting regardless is being dishonest on my part. To me, that is just being a jerk. Sorry, but that's how I see it. Yes. You did respond, but not in any kind of a timely manner to allow discourse. You did not give me the chance to add more funds for shipping. I would have. Instead, you say I'm dis-honest because I don't wear a badge or something that says I'm in Canada? I don't list my location. I guess that makes me a liar in some sense in your eyes. Maybe you want everyone to respond to your ads by stating where they are from before you will talk with them? Maybe you should put that in your ad. When I first offered $10 to split the difference in shipping, you just replied with "Thanks but I will refund your payment and put the knife back up for sale." That seems pretty rude to me. I also find it odd why you told me that you were not a dealer. I didn't ask if you were.
Listen. You go ahead and sell to whoever you want. This is not worth my time or effort. I'd much rather move on to other discussions on this forum and dealing with others who are open and willing to converse about the items they are selling. Best of wishes and happy Thanksgiving.
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2.5 hours? If you responded to me like that because I had the nerve to be AFK for 2.5 hours I wouldn't sell you a knife either. And once you'd said No thanks, what else was he supposed to do? Keep your money after having you say you didn't want the knife?!? You said you didn't want it, of course he posted that it was still available.
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I only said I didn't want it after he sent me a PM the next day (after rejecting the deal the previous night) that he would sell it to me for $21 more than the asking price. I was quite mad at that point and said the whole thing had left a bad taste in my mouth and as nice as the knife was, I did not want to buy it anymore. He posted it was still available during the 2.5 hours delay the previous night. Not even a PM confirming that he returned my PayPal payment.
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