Why do Fallkniven knives chip so easily?

Ok guys, how well does the spine stand against batoning? I know that some of the Fallkniven knives use a VG-10 core with 420J2 steel as the exterior. Will such a soft steel stand up to medium to heavy batoning?
 
MattBlade said:
Ok guys, how well does the spine stand against batoning? I know that some of the Fallkniven knives use a VG-10 core with 420J2 steel as the exterior. Will such a soft steel stand up to medium to heavy batoning?
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It will, but it has happened that users have used the neck of an axe as a baton and broken a blade.

Batoning is pretty much about technique.
With the right technique, You can even baton the spine of a thin Opinel folder!

Here's a link to a PDF on batoning by Reid Hyken:
http://brkca.com/docs/batoning.pdf

My NL4 used in batoning with wedges.
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Even my little Juni has been used to open a crack for wedges!
About using wedges, there's a good video from Karramatt Wilderness Ways, showing Mors Korchanski teaching the technique.

Regards
Mikael
 
scotchleaf said:
I wish they still sold the blanks! Also wish I could buy a Tor blank.
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There's a few S1's still left and that,s a good blank for a custom!

According to Eric, the blanks were slow sellers and didn't jusify their place on the shelf at FK headquarters.

IMO the regular rubberhandle versions, also works well for custom work.
The pic is of a F1 3g Thermorun, that I have been working on this summer.

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The edgeholding of 3G is nothing short of amazing!


Regards
Mikael
 
FTR-14c said:
Anyone that is not buying a Fallkniven because they are worried about the warranty or chipping is missing out on a great product. I hate to bring up the Noss videos but it was amazing to see how much abuse they can endure. I look at them as bare bones, very utilitarian, hard working knives that perform well. I take a Fallkniven when I'm worried about losing or abusing a knife. They are readily available and reasonably priced for what you get. If I could manage to snap one in half I would not hesitate to replace it the next day.

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All very good knives and the 3G steel in the PHK gives You a truly great edge!
 
A proper edge grinding should be done water cooled otherwise the heat will temper back the edge .It will then be softer until the damaged area is removed. About three sharpenings in my experience. This has been proven so it's not a myth.Some factories and some custom makers haven't figured that out yet !!
Don't chop rocks, don't baton a folder [read that article about battoning mentioned above] Treat tools properly and they'll work for you !!
 
mete said:
A proper edge grinding should be done water cooled otherwise the heat will temper back the edge .It will then be softer until the damaged area is removed. About three sharpenings in my experience. This has been proven so it's not a myth.Some factories and some custom makers haven't figured that out yet !!
Don't chop rocks, don't baton a folder [read that article about battoning mentioned above] Treat tools properly and they'll work for you !!
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Agreed!
I didn't mean to recommend any to baton with a folder!


Regards
Mikael
 
MattBlade said:
Hi all, I was planning to buy a Fallkniven knife but as I read several reviews, people have been complaining about the blade chipping out. There are many other steels out there that will not chip as easily even when dropping it on stones. Why does this happen? Is the edge too hard and will it improve overtime? I read from somewhere that the brittle part of the edge can be broke off with use. Otherwise I am actually leaning towards Bark River knives instead.
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Dropping knives on stones isn't good for any knife.... And NO, the rockwell will not improve over time, it's the heat treat process that sets hardness. Very little research in heat treating process for knives will yield you all the answers....
 
I'm not going to buy a Lamborghini because I might sideswipe a tree and the warranty won't cover it.
 
I have heard this a few times ... I think I have just been impossibly unlucky with them, Mikael ... vertical play, just too much of it.

Mikael W said:
I don't know the details why You don't like the TK 3 backlock.
It's very solid on my TK 3.
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Noddy said:
I have heard this a few times ... I think I have just been impossibly unlucky with them, Mikael ... vertical play, just too much of it.
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Ok, the lock on mine is rock solid!
However there's a minimal vertical play in the pivothole.
This is normal on a japanese folder, as the hole is larger than the pivotpin.
I don't notice it in normal use and after convexing the edge, my TK3 has become a fenomenal cutter!


Regards
Mikael
 
Mikael W said:
That Juni is so sweet!
I have dropped mine three times tip down into concrete and the tip held up, but left chips out of the concrete floor!


Regards
Mikael
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I think if I dropped my Juni on a concrete floor id have to take a deep breath and cross my fingers before picking it up. lol
 
Love the Thor and its leather handled brethren but at those prices i'd be afraid to use them,lol.
Was going to pick up a blade blank though, too bad they are out of production.
 
tholiver said:
Love the Thor and its leather handled brethren but at those prices i'd be afraid to use them,lol.
Was going to pick up a blade blank though, too bad they are out of production.
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I love the NL's and I use them, but my Tor is more for the collection and only sees use around the house.

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Regards
Mikael
 
I have an A1 and have used it in hard enviro's such as extreme beat and extreme cold and have had no issues. I have chopped and batoned without issue. I do use a lanyard which I would highly recommend. I have not had any issues with chipping or rolling of the edge however i do take a strop with me to touch up the blade while in the field..... You could do a lot worse then a fallkniven. They offer a 2 yeR warranty because if the blade should fail it would be sooner rather then later. I do have my a1 in my bob as it is just so darn good.
 
wildnewfie said:
They offer a 2 yeR warranty because if the blade should fail it would be sooner rather then later.
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No, that is a good excuse for their government enforced 2 year warranty. At least from the way I understand how the EU warranty system works.


Mikael,

Can you clear something up for me? If Fallkniven wanted to could they offer more than a two year warranty? Are they truly forced to only offer 2 years? Or, is 2 years a minimum? I don't quite understand, though I have heard you say many times it is a European warranty thing.
 
craytab said:
No, that is a good excuse for their government enforced 2 year warranty. At least from the way I understand how the EU warranty system works.


Mikael,

Can you clear something up for me? If Fallkniven wanted to could they offer more than a two year warranty? Are they truly forced to only offer 2 years? Or, is 2 years a minimum? I don't quite understand, though I have heard you say many times it is a European warranty thing.
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They have to offer at least two years and that's what most company's do offer, regardless of what the product is.
Some company's offer longer warranty's and they are free to do so, but the US warranty for life is illegal.


A few years ago when Fällkniven started to expand in the market east of the Ural mountains in Russia, I spoke to Peter about warranty's.
He said claiming warranty is more a western world phenomenon and the people on the Taiga, are more focused on knives that doesn't brake.
He gets very few claims from that part of the world.



Regards
Mikael
 
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