Why do people delete the price when they sell a knife?

If you contacted a buyer in private (rather than on a public forum) then it is only your business and the buyer's.

I do not sell on Ebay, this is where I conduct knife business and If I choose to delete prices, it is my business, regardless of the sale being held on an open forum. I pay for the privilege of that. My choice, plain and simple. Those that disagree can leave their prices intact. Their posts are none of my concern.

Just my way, no rule against it.
As STephen says,
"Best Regards"
Jim
 
I have a sold a few knives for higher than I got them for, but to make a profit over all? No way, I have lost way more money than I have made... Way more. :o

I would almost be willing to bet that that goes for all the other sellers also.

I know that is the case in my dealings, Buy high, sell low. :o

Also, tried them, did not like them. Sold at whatever. If I need historical data or want it, I go to a much larger audience. Ebay closed auctions.
Jim
 
Come on. Prices are not removed for the benefit of the maker.

I removed mine out of respect to the maker, I had called him prior to the fire sale and got his permission for the sales. I did NOT want to hurt his aftermarket sales, just because I had an urgent need. Yes, I do think it benefited him.

Jim
 
I have a sold a few knives for higher than I got them for, but to make a profit over all? No way, I have lost way more money than I have made... Way more. :o

I would almost be willing to bet that that goes for all the other sellers also.

And I would be willing to bet that your situation would improve if all sales prices were left in place on the for sale threads. Again, availability of a credible market history improves buyer confidence. It also provides a guide for sellers to price their wares based either on desire for a quick sale or top dollar. Without a historical data base they are shooting in the dark as much as are the buyers.

I have nothing against folks making money on the "for sale" forums, and I believe some folks do. When I eventually sell off some of my Busses, I would hope to make some money myself if they have been kept in pristine condition. Limited supply and high quality are the factors that cause some knife prices to rise with time. To keep secondary market prices secret may actually suppress the natural price gain process.
 
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I removed mine out of respect to the maker, I had called him prior to the fire sale and got his permission for the sales. I did NOT want to hurt his aftermarket sales, just because I had an urgent need. Yes, I do think it benefited him.

Jim

I'll take your word for it in your case Jim, but I do not believe that is the usual motivation.
 
And I would be willing to bet that your situation would improve if all sales prices were left in place on the for sale threads. Again, availability of a credible market history improves buyer confidence. It also provides a guide for sellers to price their wares based either on desire for a quick sale or top dollar. Without a historical data base they are shooting in the dark as much as are the buyers.

I have nothing against folks making money on the "for sale" forums, and I believe some folks do. When I eventually sell off some of my Busses, I would hope to make some money myself if they have been kept pristine. Limited supply and high quality are the factors that cause some knife prices to rise with time. To keep secondary market prices secret may actually suppress the natural price gain process.

I agree with most of what you have said, however, I have never bought a knife that I kept as a safe queen with the thought of selling it at any time.
The knives I have are for my grandson, had it not been for an emergency I would not have sold. In your case with Busses, I have no idea, the only one I bought was a gift for my son. Busses may be a different animal and this forum and the home forum may handle more sales than Ebay for historical data. I see your point. Hope you can see mine.
Jim
 
I have a sold a few knives for higher than I got them for, but to make a profit over all? No way, I have lost way more money than I have made... Way more. :o

I would almost be willing to bet that that goes for all the other sellers also.


You said it Bro.
Anymore, if I can break even (plus a few $ for shipping) I figure I'm ahead.:o

As for removing the price when it sells. I do it but not to be "sneaky". My intent is what 5.56 stated. "to let everybody know it's gone"

Mark T.
 
I agree with most of what you have said, however, I have never bought a knife that I kept as a safe queen with the thought of selling it at any time.
The knives I have are for my grandson, had it not been for an emergency I would not have sold. In your case with Busses, I have no idea, the only one I bought was a gift for my son. Busses may be a different animal and this forum and the home forum may handle more sales than Ebay for historical data. I see your point. Hope you can see mine.
Jim

I do see your point Jim. We all have our own style and motivation when we buy and sell. And I think most folks would agree that Busses (including Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard) are different animals.

I've been collecting many different kinds of users for a long time and have quite a collection. But I also collect Case folders and keep them pristine for my sons with the idea that they can keep what they like when I'm gone and sell the rest at a profit years in the future.

I've only been buying Busses for less than a year because the prices were higher than I was accustomed to paying for a knife. Suppose I bought one and didn't like it. If I actually used a valuable knife the value would fall and I'd be stuck with a significant loss if I sold. No matter how good the pics and verbal description, it is hard to tell if you will really like a knife until your hold it in your hands.

So here's how I buy Busses:

1. Select a category I am interested in owning as a user (chopper, slicer, large field blade, etc.).

2. Identify the Busses that look good from the category of interest and buy one of each. When the new knives arrive hold them, fondle them, admire them and inspect them for looks and utility in the field.

3. Select a favorite from the new blades and begin using it. If I'm happy with the way the blade performs in the field the others are carefully wrapped and put away for future sale (or perhaps to be used at a later date if I feel I must have another knife among my users).

4. I occasionally buy used Busses that are out of production. They automatically become users in my collection.

At this point I own maybe a dozen Busses and have not sold any. I have adopted about 5 as regular users and may ultimately sell the others within a year or two. I may also buy more as new models are offered.

Anyway, my point is that I would like to have accurate market information available as I go through the process outlined above. And I do believe that most buyers/sellers in the Busse secondary market would benefit as well.
 
I do see your point Jim. We all have our own style and motivation when we buy and sell. And I think most folks would agree that Busses (including Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard) are different animals.

I've been collecting many different kinds of users for a long time and have quite a collection. But I also collect Case folders and keep them pristine for my sons with the idea that they can keep what they like when I'm gone and sell the rest at a profit years in the future.

I've only been buying Busses for less than a year because the prices were higher than I was accustomed to paying for a knife. Suppose I bought one and didn't like it. If I actually used a valuable knife the value would fall and I'd be stuck with a significant loss if I sold. No matter how good the pics and verbal description, it is hard to tell if you will really like a knife until your hold it in your hands.

So here's how I buy Busses:

1. Select a category I am interested in owning as a user (chopper, slicer, large field blade, etc.).

2. Identify the Busses that look good from the category of interest and buy one of each. When the new knives arrive hold them, fondle them, admire them and inspect them for looks and utility in the field.

3. Select a favorite from the new blades and begin using it. If I'm happy with the way the blade performs in the field the others are carefully wrapped and put away for future sale (or perhaps to be used at a later date if I feel I must have another knife among my users).

4. I occasionally buy used Busses that are out of production. They automatically become users in my collection.

At this point I own maybe a dozen Busses and have not sold any. I have adopted about 5 as regular users and may ultimately sell the others within a year or two. I may also buy more as new models are offered.

Anyway, my point is that I would like to have accurate market information available as I go through the process outlined above. And I do believe that most buyers/sellers in the Busse secondary market would benefit as well.
Well said and thought out.
Jim
 
I do not sell on Ebay, this is where I conduct knife business and If I choose to delete prices, it is my business, regardless of the sale being held on an open forum. I pay for the privilege of that. My choice, plain and simple. Those that disagree can leave their prices intact. Their posts are none of my concern.

Just my way, no rule against it.
As STephen says,
"Best Regards"
Jim
Yuppers, I agree with my friend here.
 
I always leave the price and am appreciative of other forums (where I'm active) that require it. I would realy like to see that become a rule here.
 
Leaving a price doesn't indicate what it actually sold for or if it was traded.Perhap's involved cash and a trade.Leaving the asking price really has limited benefits, if one is looking for the going rate past or present on an item.So whatever the seller does is fine with me,it doesn't bother me either way.
 
Yuppers, I agree with my friend here.

Jim and I both understand each others positions but disagree as to what forum policy is most beneficial to the membership at large. He's a straightforward guy who respects other folks opinions even if they differ from his own. I count him as a friend as much as I do others who might agree with me completely. ;)
 
Leaving a price doesn't indicate what it actually sold for or if it was traded.Perhap's involved cash and a trade.Leaving the asking price really has limited benefits, if one is looking for the going rate past or present on an item.So whatever the seller does is fine with me,it doesn't bother me either way.

I would prefer that the actual sale price, not the initial asking price, be included on the first post of any successful "for sale" thread. It's as easy as:

Sold for $340.

Voila!

I believe most buyers would really appreciate having "sold for" info available. When trades are involved the situation is a little more complex, but a bunch of sharp folks like ourselves should be able to come up with a reasonable approach.
 
I prefer it when the price is left. It takes no more than changing colors to let everyone know very vividly that the knife is SOLD. I like to follow general pricing trends, and that can't be done when the prices are removed. What did the knife actually sell for? Can't be sure, but I can at least see what it was advertised for, and with enough sales threads, something can be gleaned.

I also don't think one person's 'fire sale' has anything to do with what a maker can charge for their knives. No one is gonna go to a car lot and demand a discount because someone sold a used car of the same make for well under blue book because they were in a tight spot. If everyone left their prices up, then it would be so very easy to see where the outliers are. A single private sale on BF doesn't mean anything, and if a lot of sales are going on below what the maker wants to charge, then that is the market telling him something.

It also doesn't mean anything if you made a profit on the knives. Plenty of production knives increase in price, at least in the short term. There are people selling discontinued Benchmades and Spydercos for twice the original/average net price, and they can't hide that fact because a ton of sites still list the knives with prices, even though they are out of stock. New Graham does it on purpose, for the exact reason of providing visitors a historical reference of their pricing.
 
You said it Bro.
Anymore, if I can break even (plus a few $ for shipping) I figure I'm ahead.:o

As for removing the price when it sells. I do it but not to be "sneaky". My intent is what 5.56 stated. "to let everybody know it's gone"

Mark T.

I have occasionally made money selling older "classic" knives that were no longer in production. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. But I do think folks should always make an effort to improve the quality of membership-based "for sale" type forums by providing accurate sale price data. Letting "everybody know it's gone" is an important but trivial process that is in no way diminished by telling folks what it actually "went for".

William W.
 
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Deleting the price also protects your buyer. The last thing you want is some tard emailing your buyer telling them they overpaid or there is a better deal elsewhere. It protects the buyers peace of mind.
 
Deleting the price also protects your buyer. The last thing you want is some tard emailing your buyer telling them they overpaid or there is a better deal elsewhere. It protects the buyers peace of mind.
Wouldn't that actually protect the seller rather than the buyer? :confused:

FWIW I'm glad the choice is left open to the seller even if I don't always agree.
 
Wouldn't that actually protect the seller rather than the buyer? :confused:

It protects the integrity of the transaction.

There's always someone out there who is quick to chime in with a "Dude you could've got it cheaper", or a "I wouldn't pay that much."
 
It protects the integrity of the transaction.

There's always someone out there who is quick to chime in with a "Dude you could've got it cheaper", or a "I wouldn't pay that much."

That could happen anytime while the price is posted, before the sale is completed. But it isn't a real problem is it...?

Let the Mods deal with those tards. Believe someone earlier referred to such behavior as "chatting"...
 
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