- Joined
- Mar 15, 2000
- Messages
- 45,835
-
The BladeForums.com 2024 Traditional Knife is ready to order! See this thread for details: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/bladeforums-2024-traditional-knife.2003187/
Price is$300$250 ea (shipped within CONUS). If you live outside the US, I will contact you after your order for extra shipping charges.
Order here: https://www.bladeforums.com/help/2024-traditional/ - Order as many as you like, we have plenty.
why do the heavy duty bk knives come with such slippery handles?
- Thread starter proton
- Start date
- Status
Probably the only dry days are when the cricket is on..., but even then not always... hahaNo way. Far too dry there.
- Joined
- Jan 13, 2013
- Messages
- 321
Cschol,
Bk2 TKO'ing a laptop? Brilliant. THATS what they should have done in Officespace. I hate the latest windows release and I have a mental image of a 1/4" 1095CrV through the keyboard with the monitor saying "unexpected fatal error", sparks a-flying. Tempting... Anyone have a busted laptop to kill, would be a great picture thread sticky.
SALTY
Gold Member
- Joined
- Mar 19, 2000
- Messages
- 5,803
Out of respect for BladeForums, it's administrators, moderators and members - I will keep this short and as sweet as possible without diluting the import of my point(s).
Ethan Becker, and by extension, his knife company are not greedy. Is he a businessman who seeks to make a profit from his talent, experience, investment and efforts? I would certainly hope so. To disparage a man unfairly is wrong. Ethan is a gentleman of the first order and one who is passionate about his trade and other enthusiasts of the discipline. I have only ever seen Ethan give; to call him, or the company that bears his name greedy is wrong.
Are design decisions a compromise? Absolutely. Just about every facet of the design of an automobile, boat, aircraft, firearm - or knife is a compromise; think tugboat/speedboat, Mack truck/Lamborghini, airliner/fighter jet, etc. Talent and experience allows for design facets to be blended to maximize utility either generally or for a targeted purpose; this is where science becomes art. Some folk buy a thing such as a car or knife based upon what best suits their purposes and budget then modifies the thing to better suit their more specific needs and tolerance to the side-effects of those modifications; think souping up a car and dealing with the increased fuel burn, lessened reliability/durability and perhaps louder exhaust or a lift kit and larger tires on a 4x4 and tolerating the altered ride, entry height, body roll and fuel economy in exchange for the increased ground clearance or looks.
That brings us to the Becker knives. I will not, in the interest of time, space and duplication of what others have said defend the design or materials of the stock handles. Suffice it to say that I like them and they very much work for me. In fact, of the Becker knives I own (a bunch though modest compared to some around here) I have not modified so much as a single handle - not even with tape or bicycle inner tube! However, I can and will say that Ethan Becker - who puts his very name on the knives in question, designed the handles to work, work well, be comfortable, durable, cost efficient and safe. I have found in my personal use of these knives that all of the aforementioned design criteria were achieved. Unless you know something about this that I do not, I think it wrong to suggest or outright say (as you have) that an indifference to "public safety" was involved in analysis of either the design or the execution of the handles. In fact, to suggest or outright say (as you have) otherwise is distasteful and wrong.
You can modify you handles in a variety of ways to suit your peculiar needs or desires; in fact, I credit the design of these knives with readily facilitating exactly that should one so be so inclined. I can try to give you the benefit of the doubt in asking a fair question (though not in a fair way) and I think many here have tried to provide you with a fair answer - including me. To call you a name, such as a troll or to accuse you of being rude or blathering acridly about that which you know not would not be in the spirit of this wonderful forum and, accordingly I should and will abstain from comment of that ilk. Blade Forums and this subforum in particular can be an abundant learning experience; I know I have found that to be the case. Hopefully you have learned something here - about Becker knives, of course.
Ethan Becker, and by extension, his knife company are not greedy. Is he a businessman who seeks to make a profit from his talent, experience, investment and efforts? I would certainly hope so. To disparage a man unfairly is wrong. Ethan is a gentleman of the first order and one who is passionate about his trade and other enthusiasts of the discipline. I have only ever seen Ethan give; to call him, or the company that bears his name greedy is wrong.
Are design decisions a compromise? Absolutely. Just about every facet of the design of an automobile, boat, aircraft, firearm - or knife is a compromise; think tugboat/speedboat, Mack truck/Lamborghini, airliner/fighter jet, etc. Talent and experience allows for design facets to be blended to maximize utility either generally or for a targeted purpose; this is where science becomes art. Some folk buy a thing such as a car or knife based upon what best suits their purposes and budget then modifies the thing to better suit their more specific needs and tolerance to the side-effects of those modifications; think souping up a car and dealing with the increased fuel burn, lessened reliability/durability and perhaps louder exhaust or a lift kit and larger tires on a 4x4 and tolerating the altered ride, entry height, body roll and fuel economy in exchange for the increased ground clearance or looks.
That brings us to the Becker knives. I will not, in the interest of time, space and duplication of what others have said defend the design or materials of the stock handles. Suffice it to say that I like them and they very much work for me. In fact, of the Becker knives I own (a bunch though modest compared to some around here) I have not modified so much as a single handle - not even with tape or bicycle inner tube! However, I can and will say that Ethan Becker - who puts his very name on the knives in question, designed the handles to work, work well, be comfortable, durable, cost efficient and safe. I have found in my personal use of these knives that all of the aforementioned design criteria were achieved. Unless you know something about this that I do not, I think it wrong to suggest or outright say (as you have) that an indifference to "public safety" was involved in analysis of either the design or the execution of the handles. In fact, to suggest or outright say (as you have) otherwise is distasteful and wrong.
You can modify you handles in a variety of ways to suit your peculiar needs or desires; in fact, I credit the design of these knives with readily facilitating exactly that should one so be so inclined. I can try to give you the benefit of the doubt in asking a fair question (though not in a fair way) and I think many here have tried to provide you with a fair answer - including me. To call you a name, such as a troll or to accuse you of being rude or blathering acridly about that which you know not would not be in the spirit of this wonderful forum and, accordingly I should and will abstain from comment of that ilk. Blade Forums and this subforum in particular can be an abundant learning experience; I know I have found that to be the case. Hopefully you have learned something here - about Becker knives, of course.
the handles to the bk2/10/7... are slippery. why is it that almost everybody modifies the handles into something more grippable. if you don't believe me look at the reviews to the knives on merchant sites... or better yet feel the handle yourself. why do people want more grip? cause the knife is dangerous with a slippery grip. am i the only one in here with a critical mind capable of thinking? the knife would be safer with a more grippable handle.
don't get me wrong. i love my bk-10 and i very much want a bk-2. it is just the handles and ultimately the company rub me the wrong way and strike me as shady.
Last edited:
stabman
Gold Member
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2007
- Messages
- 21,327
Riiiiiiiight...
i used glock tape on mines http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1301622-BK-10-finally-came!
- Joined
- Apr 18, 2012
- Messages
- 774
Ok I'm off to make popcorn.
c'mon dude. think.
ka bar made the handles slippery and dangerous on purpose because they want you to buy the proportionately expensive mircata handles. why is it that the handles cost about 35% of the price of a bk2?
i will say it again: this clearly points to a disregard of public safety due to greed.
- Joined
- Sep 22, 2014
- Messages
- 2,930
Oh, so you say Ethan designed and promotes handles he knows are dangerous cuz he's greedy and shady.
And anyone who doesn't agree with you is incapable of critical thinking.
Well, I'm thinking ... trolls don't last long here.
didn't say that. im saying that ka bar does the above.
you're right actually... kabar and Ethan teamed up years ago to build these slippery assault knives to endanger the public as they go flying from peoples hands...
based on your realization of this malicious scheme i think it is best that you sell that death trap of a knife that you bought and move on to something else, now that i think of it, i think something from the bear grylls line should suit you nicely, they've got rubber on the grip so that it won't slip!
I think I'm getting close to my daily limit on listening to/reading troll posts, time to get some popcorn and watch the rest of this unfold
am i the only one in here with a critical mind capable of thinking?
QUOTE]
Yes. The self absorbed ignorance in this thread is blindingly apparent. Some folks just don't know how to listen no matter how patiently the genuine issue has been explained. Just keep hanging on to their original assertion, regardless. Thx so very much for pointing that out , proton
Whaaaaaaaat?!?
You didn't even use your 10 before you wrapped it in tape. How would you know how they feel in use?!?
it is universal knowledge that the grips are slippery and everyone wants to replace it. google it. i dare you.
- Joined
- Oct 3, 2014
- Messages
- 679
I tell you what, go get an Ontario Sp10, with full, rubber, sticky grip, and use it for like... 4 hours.
Not only will you learn what hot spots are, but you will think "man... a properly designed grip that was slippery instead of rubberized would be really nice"
Ask me how I know... Before I got a Becker, I thought that I would like the Ontario grip more than the Beckers. I ended up getting both, and I planned on doing a micarte swap on the Bk9. I do comparative reviews on YouTube, one knife after the other, so I get immediate feedback on the strengths and weakness' of knifes, as compared to each other.
You spoke of our ability to think logically. Logic can typically be re enforced or validated by facts and statistics.
So being a man of high logical capability, please provide us the statistics for people injured when in the presence of others wielding these dangerous knives. Give me stats from a reputable source, and I will ENTIRELY drop my argument.
If you can't do that, you are simply grasping at the wind, and trying to regulate something for NO logical reason.
As far as everyone wanting to replace their grips, that is part of what makes Beckers great! We can easily replace the grips with whatever we like! That being said, some people prefer grips that are slicker, and some that are more sticky.
What is easier, to smooth out a tacky sticky or rough grip, or add grip to a smooth grip?
Being that your a logical person, I am sure that you can figure this one out.
The bottom line, get your knife out and USE it.
Then, get a knife with a really abrasive set of grips, and do the same.
I came from a similar position as you when it came to the Becker grips. Most average people, even those who purchase Beckers, like yourself, don't actually USE their knives. In fact, our market is saturated with knives that SUCK because people are more worried about how a knife looks than how it performs, because people aren't USING them.
Go USE your knife... after those few hundred reps banging on wood for conditioning, you will appreciate Becker handles.
OR! Simply actually use you knife while camping or doing something else, you will still get 300 "reps" out of it, but in a less controlled environment, and you will not only have a better understanding of the grips, but maybe, just maybe, you will have also accomplished something.
Not only will you learn what hot spots are, but you will think "man... a properly designed grip that was slippery instead of rubberized would be really nice"
Ask me how I know... Before I got a Becker, I thought that I would like the Ontario grip more than the Beckers. I ended up getting both, and I planned on doing a micarte swap on the Bk9. I do comparative reviews on YouTube, one knife after the other, so I get immediate feedback on the strengths and weakness' of knifes, as compared to each other.
You spoke of our ability to think logically. Logic can typically be re enforced or validated by facts and statistics.
So being a man of high logical capability, please provide us the statistics for people injured when in the presence of others wielding these dangerous knives. Give me stats from a reputable source, and I will ENTIRELY drop my argument.
If you can't do that, you are simply grasping at the wind, and trying to regulate something for NO logical reason.
As far as everyone wanting to replace their grips, that is part of what makes Beckers great! We can easily replace the grips with whatever we like! That being said, some people prefer grips that are slicker, and some that are more sticky.
What is easier, to smooth out a tacky sticky or rough grip, or add grip to a smooth grip?
Being that your a logical person, I am sure that you can figure this one out.
The bottom line, get your knife out and USE it.
Then, get a knife with a really abrasive set of grips, and do the same.
I came from a similar position as you when it came to the Becker grips. Most average people, even those who purchase Beckers, like yourself, don't actually USE their knives. In fact, our market is saturated with knives that SUCK because people are more worried about how a knife looks than how it performs, because people aren't USING them.
Go USE your knife... after those few hundred reps banging on wood for conditioning, you will appreciate Becker handles.
OR! Simply actually use you knife while camping or doing something else, you will still get 300 "reps" out of it, but in a less controlled environment, and you will not only have a better understanding of the grips, but maybe, just maybe, you will have also accomplished something.
- Joined
- Apr 18, 2012
- Messages
- 774
I honestly think this is a Troll. New account, nothing much good to say at all about the Becker line. Seems like no positive experiences at all. He is just jumping in enough to continue the feeding frenzy. I anticipate (hope) he's days are numbered around here.
Anyway back to the popcorn 🎉
Anyway back to the popcorn 🎉
- Status