Why don't chris reeve and mick strider do what hinderer does?

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^first good post in this utterly inane thread^

(Well, except for the one being better informed on a couple of the makers by hardheart, thanks for that.)
 
Several of the threads in General have been below average intelligence lately,
I guess that's the nature of the beast.
 
SomeNewGuy said:
Chris reeve and Mick strider should do what Rick Hinderer does. He colaberates with companies to make more affordable knives with similar designs to his to help feed the lower budget people and give people a chance to try out his design before dropping half a grand on it.

I don't get why they don't do that, i don't see how it could do anything but benefit them.

What does anyone else think? If Chris reeve and strider picket a company and made a 80$ knife with like Aus 8 vg10 or 154cm blade steel and maybe a aluminum scale and a steel frame lock. Then a high end 200-250$ knife and use the ti and s30v steels but just don't have that perfect fit and finish and tight tolerances.

Wouldn't that be like gateway drugging into the expensive blades?
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What a piece of work! Guy comes asking for thoughts and argues with every thought posted. :D
 
Another "I don't wanna save for a sebenza cause it's sooo expensive waaaahhhh" thread. BIG SURPRISE.
 
Well I got a answer from chris reeve. It was a very polite and informative response. In short it said that he does not plan to do this anytime in the future because he does not want other companies to produce his designs and he does not have the capacity to start other cheaper models in his shop, He also wants everything made in the usa. He also said he doesn't plan on making anything in a lower price range because he is not concerned about that consumer base.

Now although i think that it would be nice to see that, I cant argue nor disagree especially seeing that he took the time to answer me and he was completely polite dispite what other people said he would be.
 
SomeNewGuy said:
Well I got a answer from chris reeve. It was a very polite and informative response. In short it said that he does not plan to do this anytime in the future because he does not want other companies to produce his designs and he does not have the capacity to start other cheaper models in his shop, He also wants everything made in the usa. He also said he doesn't plan on making anything in a lower price range because he is not concerned about that consumer base.

Now although i think that it would be nice to see that, I cant argue nor disagree especially seeing that he took the time to answer me and he was completely polite dispite what other people said he would be.
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That sounds about right and goes pretty much as I and a few others posted earlier in the thread.
 
You should foremost keep in mind that CRK and Strider are production companies. I think Strider puts out more customs than CRK does as well. CRK wouldn't want to let their production designs be produced by another production facility because that is what they have already. Custom makers can do as they will as long as they can get a little bit of the materials necessary. They do small runs with one or a handful of people. But when you produce thousands of an item, for a certain price, with an expected cache involved, then you have a hard time messing with that. A Sebenza is not hard to find. An Umnumzaan is listed for sale right next to other full production knives. What sells them is the perceived quality.

They don't have a trademark look or patent to use to sell CRK knives. They have 'CRK quality'. There is nothing difficult in making a knife look like a Seb or Umnum, so there is no technology or secret to license. The market for CRKs is for people who want the build quality, more or less. They don't have a trademark round opening hole, they don't have an exclusive INFI steel, they don't have a patented axis lock. Anyone can use the frame lock, and there are already a ton of knives with ~90% the quality of a Seb. If you can get that quality, with the look, for half the price, then the mass produced CRK Sebenza is cannibalized by the joint venture. That last 10% of quality that takes the extra care and man hours is what makes a CRK. There's not too many examples of CRK folders, so the 'look' of a CRK folder is less tangible than the 'feel'. And if you replicate the 'feel' of the fit and machining, then you replicate the price - negating the reason for a factory collaboration. It would be more like Buck letting M-Tech do a 110 collab to keep price down on an already well priced knife, or letting Kershaw do a 110 collab and keeping the price the same and not helping anyone.

Strider has produced more patterns and is sold more on aesthetics and visible features like striping, nightmare grinds, gunner grips, etc., so coming up with designs for collaboration has been done more often with more companies by them. A Buck Strider doesn't look too much like a ZT Strider.
 
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