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Why is flicking damaging to the Reeve knives

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by duro, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. duro


    May 25, 2012
    Why is flicking damaging to the Reeve knives, but yet for flipper knives, flicking is the only way to open...Different design?
  2. Cynic2701


    Mar 31, 2009
    Did you read through the thread? CRK made a statement years ago that there are some people that obsessively wrist flick (which is much harder than a thumb flick) and that they don't feel like warrantying knives that people have wrist flicked hundreds of thousands of times.

    They also made a video where they wrist flicked a knife a few thousands times with no noticeable wear.
  3. duro


    May 25, 2012
    i read the thread. Flippers flick open with force. Some folders require a good wrist flick for rapid deployment. So I guess as others have mentioned; If the wear on the blade is equal to wear on the pivot, Mr. Reeve will honor his warranty...
  4. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod Staff Member Super Mod

    Apr 6, 2000
  5. Egnar T Seinnhoj

    Egnar T Seinnhoj

    Jan 13, 2013
    I'm pretty sure he meant wrist flicking. Just using a thumb flick should be fine. But hard wrist flicking will cause wear on the stop pin and you'll be responsible for the cost of fixing that if you send it in for service. All they have to do is look at it and they'll know how you've used or abused it. Can't remember where I heard this, but I remember them being a reputable source for that info.

    EDIT: Not a CRK owner, just an admirer.
  6. Egnar T Seinnhoj

    Egnar T Seinnhoj

    Jan 13, 2013
    Also, just noticed I posted this in the wrong tab... whooops :foot:
  7. Esav Benyamin

    Esav Benyamin MidniteSuperMod Staff Member Super Mod

    Apr 6, 2000
    Moved them to this new thread. :)
  8. duro


    May 25, 2012

    Thanks for doing what you feel is necessary.

    It wasn't answered to my satisfaction. Have you ever opened a flipper? They tend to open with tremendous force. Equivalent to wrist flicking.
  9. fetzer85


    Oct 17, 2012
    While I don't like flippers, I have opened numerous before. If they are unassisted then I can flick my thumb stud/hole knives open just as hard.
  10. skyhorse

    skyhorse Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 30, 2010
    Did they start putting flippers on Chris Reeves Knives ? I must have missed something,I've only seen the ones with thumb studs.
  11. JNewell

    JNewell Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Decent flippers are designed differently. Wrist-flicking most titanium framelocks will result in accelerated wear on the knife.
  12. Scurvy092


    Jan 31, 2012
    Surprised it took this long for someone to point that out. Excuse the op, he really just doesn't know any better.
  13. mjolnir74


    Aug 21, 2005
    I'm ignorant of this. How is a ZT 0561 designed to take opening better. Not being smart, they are both framelocks. Is the stop pin beefed up?
  14. pvicenzi


    Dec 25, 2008
    Excessive flipping is accelerates wear on any knife. Chris Reeve just states that he won't warranty knives he believes have been abused.
  15. HwangJino


    Dec 2, 2012
    Which is why im looking at other knife makers for framelocks. One that encourages use and abuse.

    I keep mine the way they are, thumb flicking, but I do want a quality folder I can wrist flick If I wanted to without worry.

    it tends to be a habit of knife hobbyists.

    its like a pricey car that voids warranty if you slam the gas and go past 65 mph.
  16. K.O.D.

    K.O.D. Banned Platinum Member

    Aug 21, 2013
    I think Chris Reeve doesn't like being flicked off. :D

    I think its stupid, which is why I bought a Strider instead of a Sebenza or Umnum.
  17. Grease


    May 10, 2012
    More like a pricey car that voids the warranty for slamming it into a gear too fast...

    It would be stupid if the car were a sports car, but it's not. You aren't going to go street racing in a Bentley, so why do you think you should be wrist flicking a Sebenza?
  18. Locutus D'Borg

    Locutus D'Borg Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Dec 1, 2012
    Yet another contribution to the recent rash of anti-Sebenza threads started by non-paying members. I'm guessing most are very young.

  19. dynamicmoves


    Jan 6, 2011
    I've never handled a Sebenza so I don't know if I can comment here, but I've always wondered if a Sebenza is kind of like a MacBook to the knife world. Overpriced, has a certain social status that goes along with it, but when you get down to the OS and the hardware, not too much different from a computer that is $400 less than it is.
    One day I'll get to play around with one of them, at which point I believe I'll form my own opinion that I will swing around like fact.
  20. Bugout Bill

    Bugout Bill

    Jan 2, 2013
    Another reason the Umnumzaan is better than the Sebenza. :D

    I wish the ceramic detent ball/lock bar interface was in wider use. It seems like it solves a lot of the issues associated with lock bar wear.

    Accurate in some respects, but at least it is easier for the end user to service a CRK than a Mac. One of the main things that I like about CRK, you are given the tools to disassemble the knife and you are expected to do so.

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