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Why is there sometimes snobbery against Cold Steel knives? They are great!
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to say their lock is superior to Benchmade or Spyder co. I only have this to say, if there is no blade play whats the difference. none of my Benchmades or Sypderco knife ever had any play in them so in my book their good enough.
Alot of the cold steel designs are still looking to me, I look at them as kids knives (Fantacy knifes) for the acception of a few.
Call me a steel snob, but I will never buy a knife with AUS8 steel. If CS made a knife with S30V maybe I would buy one, but I dont buy knifes with cheap steel.
Alot of the cold steel designs are still looking to me, I look at them as kids knives (Fantacy knifes) for the acception of a few.
Call me a steel snob, but I will never buy a knife with AUS8 steel. If CS made a knife with S30V maybe I would buy one, but I dont buy knifes with cheap steel.
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VG-1 is really a good steel, shame they stopped that.
AUS-8 isn't a bad steel for a user blade.
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I'll remember to buy a few cold steel knives the next time my pet Gorilla wants to use my pocket knives for monkey bars. Seriously what's the big friggin deal about a lock that can hold however many hundreds of pounds, I've owned alot of knives benchmades, spydercos, emersons, and never had a lock failure. If you need a pocket knife to withstand hundreds and hundreds of pounds of force on the lock then you might need to invest in a fixed blade. I've said this 1,001 times now, we live we learn, and then we stop buying cold steel knives. Yes i had a cold steel phase myself, but after using them I realized the videos were just marketing and there are far better knives on the market. The coating on my recon 1 flaked off a bit when i opened a box of cake mix for my wife, no joke!!! So how come every knife i've owned the blade finish will flake off if the wind gusts to hard but yet they stab them through car doors and stuff on their videos, I'm still trying to figure this out,
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Is there a significant difference between AUS-8 and VG-1?
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Fantasy knives? I understand that you said: "with the exception of a few" but i dont know of any CS knife being fantasy.
This is fantasy, and i havent seen any CS look similar. I may be wrong, and if i am, (to anyone) post a pic of one that you think is
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Dunno, ask BM why they use the axis, why Spyderco uses the bbl and compression lock, ZT why they use heavy frame locks, why Elishewitz gave the EX-01 a button lock at 370 in-lbs, why anyone uses oversized lockbacks. Maybe ask everyone who buys these knives as well as Cold Steel. Because there has to be enough business in these to make them instead of slipjoints and thin liner locks.
Peace of mind i guess. Were straying from the point here. People are getting waaaay too into this arguement.
Im happy with a slipjoint. I used one for about 2 weeks with no issue.
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Ok, that's what I thought...
I've got a Pendleton Hunter in VG-1, and the gf's got a SOG Field Pup in AUS-8. From what I've noticed, the P Hunter retains its edge better, and I haven't had any of the chipping issues that I've read about some people having with VG-1, so I'm pretty happy with it. I'm not a steel expert though, I figured I'd ask someone who knows better than I do before I said anything :thumbup:
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Yep.
I still remember the days before the triad lock, when the axis lock was the "strongest lock on the market". Didn't remember controversy about it then.
Also BM just decided to beef up their axis lock for the adamas.
BM's axis lock is a nice locking system that makes one handed use easy, without putting your hand in the path of the blade, same with the compression lock spyderco does. Coldsteel's triad lock is a beefed up back lock, as others have said if you need a lock that strong in the first place go fixed blade.
I don't mind the ads cs does, I just get tired of looking at black g10 handles and plain or painted black blades. I don't find cs to be all that creative with their designs. Cs is the number one caterer to mall ninjas...
I don't mind the ads cs does, I just get tired of looking at black g10 handles and plain or painted black blades. I don't find cs to be all that creative with their designs. Cs is the number one caterer to mall ninjas...
Agreed. At this point, We aren't beating a dead horse, it has already come back as a zombie and we are killing it a second time.
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What is the top one? I actually like that look. I do not like the finger grooves on the bottom one or the Ak-47 handle at all. I am also not a big fan of all black but that one looks good.
It's the full-size American Lawman.
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Also, once you figure out how to close it one handed, it is even better. I don't "need" to do that much, but if I do, the option is there.
That is one of the things about slip joints I think about. If I had a really injured hand, I would not be able to open most of mine without both hands.
The CS Bushman, without knowing how to close it one handed basically becomes a fixed blade once opened, if you can't use your other hand (and can't figure out how to do it one handed).
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I would also not put money on SOG's Aus-8 HT being equal to many others. (this is just my impression from others comments on Sog, I have not owned one).
CS's HT on their Aus-8 seems to be done very well from a toughness standpoint. Edge retention is not horrible, but not as good as other steels (this is OK for what I buy them for).
Even their "lowly" steel like in the buhsman (4116 Krup) in the pocket Bushman is plenty good for a cheap knife with that strong of a lock.
I agree that many of their designs would be much more appealing with other choices in steel.
I never had any chipping issues with my VG-1 SanMai trailmaster either. It was a great blade for me for a decade. Before I moved it on, because it was not getting any use anymore.
As to lock strength, it does mean something to me. I have had a couple of lock failures in use in different knives (been cut a few times). My brother also had to go have surgery on his hand to reattach a tendon that was cut from a lock failure (the lock was about the weakest liner lock you can buy. Older Buck Cross lock).
I carry slipjoints every day, so I don't have to have a locking mechanism to cut stuff. If one is there, I do want to know that it will serve it's purpose. As long as the lock is "strong enough" I don't get bent out of shape.
I do tend to stay away from liner locks, but if they are done well, they seem decently strong enough for my needs (I have a Kershaw needs work that I got in a giveaway. The liner lock on that one seems plenty solid enough for a work knife).
These threads deteriorate so quickly, that at this point, I am sure most aren't even bothering to read.
I know at least one of you "would never respect any comment from an owner of CS products" or something like that.
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for all the people saying "instead carry a fixed blade if you need such a strong lock as the tri ad",,,,well, you can't carry a concealed fixed blade legally, and a folding knife with Tri Ad lock allows you to carry your concealed blade and be confident that your folding knife is proven to have the most solid locking device.....and then it makes me laugh when people say " I will only buy USA made knives", when all of your computers and cell phones and basically every thing you are wearing is made in China.
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Have some CS knives so not a snob
However for me the marketing seem so the have the wannabe "prove myself" stigma.
Take other companies like Spyderco, Kershaw/ZT, Emerson ....etc. The knives speak for themselves once used and generally satisfied customers end up marketing the knives
for others via word of mouth.
They don't need a fat man to drive them through Car doors (and unknown to many "new to knife" dull them each time)
For all the exercises and torture tests do you really think they use the same knife for all of them?
However for me the marketing seem so the have the wannabe "prove myself" stigma.
Take other companies like Spyderco, Kershaw/ZT, Emerson ....etc. The knives speak for themselves once used and generally satisfied customers end up marketing the knives
for others via word of mouth.
They don't need a fat man to drive them through Car doors (and unknown to many "new to knife" dull them each time)
For all the exercises and torture tests do you really think they use the same knife for all of them?