Why Lynn Thompson Rules!

odobo said:
What behavior do people dislike about Lynn Thompson? Am I missing something, or do people just not like it when he says that certain manufacturers are cheating the public and are liars? That's exactly what they're doing and what they are. I appreciate what Lynn's doing. I agree with everything I've heard him say. He's an excellent martial artist and knife designer and Cold Steel makes the best products. I never buy anything but Cold Steel.
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Thank you for bringing up a year and a half old thread to be re-discussed ad nauseum...noob..
 
:oMaybe it would be better to address the content of the posts rather than the individual.

Some of you should know better.
 
diceman said:
Oooh, I can already see a bunch of people posting hate on here!

I've currently got 2 Voyagers, a Kobun, an Oyabun, a ti-lite, and a Bushman - I got good deals on all of them. I carried the Voyager while I was in the Army as an EDC for 3 years and it saw some rough use. The Bushman sits in the back of my Explorer in my BOB. Not my 1st choice for a survival blade, but at $15, its nice to have on "standby" even though I don't ever use it. I've sinced moved "up" to Scrapyard/RAT/Ranger, but have gotten plenty of good use out of CS products. For the money, and many situations, CS blades are a great! And... here come the haters:
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Yep, the mere mention of Cold Steel or LT is all it takes to know that the thread will take off around here. He does draw attention doesn't he? As Madonna proved negative publicity is still publicity and a positive tool if you use it properly. Lynn gets both good and bad thats for sure.

No matter what you can say about him or Cold Steel though they do make great locks. I've been really amazed at some of the lock strengths in their stuff. Not all of it but the major part of the tried and true folders in their line up work plain and simple. My son took a Recon Scout with him to Iraq and it worked too. Are they Busse? Of course not but they do the job which is all one can ask.

I own a few Cold Steel knives. My favorites are the old Ultra Locks from the 90s. The full serrated patterns they used then made carrying a full serrated blade something that not only cut great forever but could be used for things a plain edge does as well, like whittle, or sharpen pencils because the pattern they used then for serrating their blades was such that it was not so aggressive that it tore up things or grabbed what you were trying to cut and pulled it out of your hand. My little clip point full serrated Ultra Lock from that era is still one of the EDC knives in my line up of users that I often times carry. There is nothing like having a folder or fixed blade you don't give a crap about on you because when you only paid $20 or so for it new you are not afraid to use it.

All the Vaqueros, Voyagers, and the Ultimate Hunter I tested side by side with a Manix by Spyderco have been enough to prove to me that LT does get very anal retentive about his lock ups. The things are strong, reliable and worthy of high praise. Some of the hype in his DVDs though? I could do without all that really but he seems to get off on it. My fave is the one he did with the blow guns. He was like this kid shooting toy soldiers with the thing. Very entertaining but you have to wonder. :confused: Anyway, thats my two cents worth. ;)

STR
 
Oh well there's a little kid in all of us:D I sneak out my blowgun every once in a while for a little target practice in case the zombies come;)
 
Why is 420HC a junk steel? It is no S30V, but hey, this stuff is way too brittle if you ask me. It is not about the jobs, it is about the representation of knives in the advertisements from Cold Steel. Read enderwiggins post again, he emphasized the problem much better than I am able to.
Concerning the job issue: I wonder what good companies are left nowadays...can't be that many I suppose.

Take care,
Morales
 
I like Lynn and his products. I love his vids. I was just wondering why he has not joined us on the forums. Its a great way to get feed back directly from his customers.
 
Cleve Loga said:
I like Lynn and his products. I love his vids. I was just wondering why he has not joined us on the forums. Its a great way to get feed back directly from his customers.
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Cold Steel had a forum but it got so heated and out of control they closed it and never looked back.

The little Ultra Lock full serrated I have from the 90s has not been sharpened in over ten years and it will still cut up hemp rope or boxes all day long. Crap steel but you'd never know it to use it. The thing flat out cuts and is a performer I use as a sounding board to judge others by. I know from using it that the thing will outcut many much higher dollar folders including side by side testing with S30V and SG2 hemp and carpet cutting. The plain edge ones I have are quite nice when new, but they seem on par with AUS8 which does need touch ups regularly. Its not a bad steel at all. In fact the standing the AUS steels have in this industry, and particularly AUS8 can be directly linked back to Cold Steel's use of it in their folders. They pretty much put that steel on the map.

STR
 
odobo said:
What behavior do people dislike about Lynn Thompson? Am I missing something, or do people just not like it when he says that certain manufacturers are cheating the public and are liars? That's exactly what they're doing and what they are. I appreciate what Lynn's doing. I agree with everything I've heard him say. He's an excellent martial artist and knife designer and Cold Steel makes the best products. I never buy anything but Cold Steel.
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Giving you full credit for accuracy, that makes you a totally partisan source. Hardly someone to whom one should go for advice.

He designed the Wirkalla puukko? He designed the bowie knife? He designed the Russell Canadian Belt Knife? The khukuri? Do tell.

Cold Steel "makes" what? Nothing. Not a paper clip.
 
odobo said:
He's an excellent martial artist and knife designer and Cold Steel makes the best products. I never buy anything but Cold Steel.
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:yawn:

STR said:
No matter what you can say about him or Cold Steel though they do make great locks.

STR
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Thomas Linton said:
Cold Steel "makes" what? Nothing. Not a paper clip.
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Exactly ! They make nothing...not a dam thing.

Yet people consistently claim they do , usually the same people who claim to have a lot of " knifes , and just an FYI for those folks , the plural is KNIVES. "

Cold Steal..ripping off everyone but themselves , cause their original designs suck ;)
 
they are a distributor NOT a maker FWIW, they dont make anything.

and a lot of knives they distribute are the intellectual property of others who have recieved no compensation for it, ie cold steel ripped of there designs.

other than that they make great stuff lol.
 
macgregor22 said:
Yeah, where is that?
I can't even find it in the archives.
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I never said it was here.


For you guys with the comments about manufacturing. It is true that Cold Steel designs and contracts out to have their products made. But do you really want to go there? Lots of people contract out their designs. This is not necessarily a bad thing. In many cases if not the majority of them the knives from one to the other, although different in design are probably manufactured in the same place. A.G. Russell, Spyderco, and even custom makers contract with people and companies to have their blades made for them to be used in their folders and fixed blades as well as many of the smaller parts they use.

The end result for a reliable well designed cutting tool is all that matters to a lot of folks because they obviously don't give a hoot about the person behind the knives or anything else. That should be obvious. Look at some of the facts from some of the most famous tactical knife makers out there (you know who they are) that have a history of of lies about their backgrounds in the military. Did that matter to you? No apparently not. And yet you can overlook that dark blotch on one but not the ones on LT or Cold Steel? The word Hypocrite comes to mind here !

STR
 
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Not really in all cases.
Personally, I do not want to own a knife backed by misrepresentation and don't. Even purchased two knives here that I found out were stolen. They were sold and the money given to a member in need.

How can that be hyprocrisy?
 
Bastid said:
Not really in all cases.
Personally, I do not want to own a knife backed by misrepresentation and don't. Even purchased two knives here that I found out were stolen. They were sold and the money given to a member in need.

How can that be hyprocrisy?
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Good on you Bastid. On the issue of stolen knives that is not really what I was referring to Bastid and how could it be? I didn't know anything about that. Stolen physical property to me is a bit of a different league than taking a design either copying it as is or modifying it so that in your own mind anyway, you feel its been improved or modified to an extent to make it legal. There is a lot of that going on and it has been the case in the knife industry since the first stone tool. Not that this makes it alright.

I try to look at the knives only because although I could let myself get swayed by things I learned or think I learned about individuals or companies behind the knives the fact is there is dirt everywhere in any industry and if I let that happen I'd simply be limited to a handful of people or companies to choose from. Henry Ford supported Hitler but I drive a Lincoln as one example.


STR
 
STR said:
Henry Ford supported Hitler but I drive a Lincoln as one example.
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Hello STR! Does this example really work? Don't get my wrong, but so many companies here in Germany have been related to Hitler's regime (e.g. Volkswagen), I think it would be a neverending story if I'd try to avoid these companies and their products. After all, that was over 60 years ago.

I totally agree with you that one shouldn't blame CS and LT for contracting out and accept it from other companies. But I personally dislike CS for their advertising, their whole concept of slicing, stabbing power and its impact on flesh. We as knifeknuts are already confronted with prejudices day by day, we do not a company that supports the mallninja-image in such dimensions.

Another thing would be "transparency". I don't know where exactly CS knives are made, who designs them except LT (plus Pendleton et al.), and what CS exactly stands for. I know very little about this company, though I tried to find out more.
What I mean is that I know guys who like certain companies for special reasons. I met people who like CRK for some reasons and Spyderco for other reasons. I could understand most of them and had no problem with it.

It took a long time to meet CS fans, some I /met/ here, some on youtube and other places on the net. Couldn't find one in RL 'til now. Most of them were sassy, aggressive, intolerant towards other companies, so what impression should I be getting from this? And yes, I did watch the Proof videos.

CS just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and the other companies aren't saints either. But besides Dark Ops, there's none which could be compared to CS imho.

Take care and sorry for my English, there's still a lot of room for improvement.

CZ
 
Not just stolen knives.

I do not just look at the knife. I look at who made it. If I do not see honor and integrity there I do not want the knife. There are individuals and companies whose work I will never own no matter how good the knife or price. An honest maker will give credit where it is due, those are the makers whose knives I own.

I do not consider that hypocrisy at all.
 
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