Why so many hideous folders?

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Again, form follows function. In this case the function was MTV's Video Music Awards, enjoy.

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And yes, that is Lady Gaga in a dress made out of raw beef.
 
There are a lot of ugly knives out there, but then there are also a lot of good looking knives whos design isn't as efficient as it could be. A good plain jane drop/spear point fixed blade will do 99% of the tasks you need to do efficiently but then if all I had to look at/make were plain jane drop/spear points I would have bored with knives years ago. I like the variety. SOme are hideous but some are pretty good looking. I'm often surprised when I look at a knife and say to myself "wow thats ugly" and then read comments about people wanting to trade a kidney for it. I see this in all walks of life...."super" models that look about as attractive as women you see at the mall...cars....clothes...etc etc. I knew a girl that got all excited she found some special LV purse for only $800...I probably wouldn't have picked it up at a garage sale for 10cents.

Try as hard as I can I haven't been able to get attached to framelocks. I tend to like symmetry and the lack of it distracts me. I have a small chisel ground Ti fixed blade knife I made myself as a test piece. It functions well, but the sides not matching is getting to me.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 
CWL said:
Older, traditional knife patterns exist because they have remained useful over the decades and centuries. They have withstood the test of time and their simplicity & practicality is pleasing to the eye.

Today's "tactical" knives are mostly designed by people who have never seen combat, nor do they understand the lines of what a useful knife needs to have. Many are designed just to look different than everything else. The end result is a spewing of ugly, impractical knives, that don't belong in either the battlefield or one's pockets. -but people still buy them because they are black, have skulls on them and they say "tactical, battle-ready, hard use" on the blade.
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There is a lot of truth to that. :thumbup:

Seems like the more over designed the knives are the better they sell.
 
Thanks, Jill, for beating me to it re my TILT!... it is an acquired taste, as was my BM 630 Skirmish. Both look kind of girley-man - until you handle one - substantial knives. Now, a Buck 110 has always been a classic!

I think CWL's depicted knife would sell far better if Gerber would pick it up as a new urban survival knife in the 'Bear Grylls' line... sell 'em at WallyWorld... or mall kiosks... make an international model with depth markings in centimeters...

Odd - what is more plain looking than a plain Jane CR Sebenza? Handsome knife.

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CWL said:
Older, traditional knife patterns exist because they have remained useful over the decades and centuries. They have withstood the test of time and their simplicity & practicality is pleasing to the eye.

Today's "tactical" knives are mostly designed by people who have never seen combat, nor do they understand the lines of what a useful knife needs to have. Many are designed just to look different than everything else. The end result is a spewing of ugly, impractical knives, that don't belong in either the battlefield or one's pockets. -but people still buy them because they are black, have skulls on them and they say "tactical, battle-ready, hard use" on the blade.
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This post says it all for me

First IMHO the term tactical folder is an Oxy Moran

I have no need for a heavy clunky frame lock unless my intent was to put in a sock and swing it at someone.

For all you with these abominations try this stick it into a tuff substance and then twist the blade chances are if you twist clock wise you will disengage the lock. Simple put its a horrible design especially if your purpose for such knife is to use it in a life threatening situation

If your intent is to cut up fruit then you should be fine but then do you really need a 2 pound folder :)

For example look at a frame lock done well

This Diskin has scales on both sides so you are not literally torquing the lock when your grip twists

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JParanee said:
For all you with these abominations try this stick it into a tuff substance and then twist the blade chances are if you twist clock wise you will disengage the lock.
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Hmmm, just did that with 5 different frame-lock knives, and none of them did what you said they should.

Guess i'm just bad at doing it wrong.
 
Yes you must have

A few years Ago we where bow hunting alligators someone threw me there handy ninja frame lock to dispatch one

Well guess what when the gator got stuck in the back of his neck he did not like it and started moving around quite a bit

Things beside your pillow don't like getting stabbed so while this was all going on the lock kicked out and I suffered tendon damage from a bad cut

I learned right then to carry affixed blade and to leave the silly exposed frame lock folders to the mall ninjas :)
 
JParanee said:
Yes you must have

A few years Ago we where bow hunting alligators someone threw me there handy ninja frame lock to dispatch one

Well guess what when the gator got stuck in the back of his neck he did not like it and started moving around quite a bit

Things beside your pillow don't like getting stabbed so while this was all going on the lock kicked out and I suffered tendon damage from a bad cut

I learned right then to carry affixed blade and to leave the silly exposed frame lock folders to the mall ninjas :)
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You should have held on to it to it better.
Or just used a fixed blade, like you said you'll now do.

But really, why the hell would you use ANY folder to try killing an alligator? Or even a fixed blade? Isn't that what God invented guns for?
 
JParanee said:
Yes you must have

A few years Ago we where bow hunting alligators someone threw me there handy ninja frame lock to dispatch one

Well guess what when the gator got stuck in the back of his neck he did not like it and started moving around quite a bit

Things beside your pillow don't like getting stabbed so while this was all going on the lock kicked out and I suffered tendon damage from a bad cut

I learned right then to carry affixed blade and to leave the silly exposed frame lock folders to the mall ninjas :)
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You using the incorrect tool for the job = all frame locks are for Gecko45.

That makes total sense!
 
Probably because that's what sells to the masses. It looks cool, menacing, deadly etc. I'd love to see some new folders geared toward the woods. Something bushcrafty and comfortable to use for long periods. They probably would look too boring though :confused:
 
If you twist a frame-lock clockwise, with your right hand you'd be pushing inward on the frame-lock and it would just get tighter.
 
That's what I had

And sorry they suck

Maybe I got mixed up with the way you have to twist but what do you think would happen with a 300 pound guy in a leather jacket what tool would you suggest the over weight frame lock pulling your pants down

Face it it's a stupid design sorry :)
 
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JParanee said:
That's what I had

And sorry they suck

Maybe I got mixed up with the way you have to twist but what do you think would happen with a 300 pound guy in a leather jacket what tool would you suggest the over weight frame lock pulling your pants down

Face it it's a stupid design sorry :)
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More for me.

It's probable that you disengaged the lock yourself on accident when your hand twisted. I wouldn't call that a failure of the lock, rather a part of the design you have to be conscientious of when you're using it.

Also, I carry an 0560 and it's never pulled my pants down. I leave that task to my girlfriend.
 
JParanee said:
Face it it's a stupid design sorry :)
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Riiight, Chris Reeve doens't know anything about proper knife design...
Must be why he keeps winning all those awards, because of how stupid the design is...
And everyone knows that only the stupidest of designs get copied by huge numbers of people...

Well, this once again has proven that the internet is really for porn, and not for learning anything factual.
 
IMO, it's stupid to try to stab an gator with anything, unless it has a 6 or seven foot handle attached. But, that's just my opinion.
 
To be honest, I just think the OP needs to get over himself and realize that aesthetics are completely subjective so presenting your personal opinion as some definitive final word on design is a bit pompous and self important. Don't like a knife, don't buy it. Don't like a designer, find a different one. Better yet, just keep making your older designs and then you'll get exactly what you want. Problem solved!
 
I'm quite shocked that an actual knife maker started this thread. You are aware that some people don't like your work and that's their right just as you don't like other people's work and that's your right also.

As for the newer models that's called evolution. The old classic will never die and if you don't like the new stuff just don't buy it.

If there would be no evolution in design we all be EDCing rocks.

And for my self I have an old liner lock right beside a Kershaw Tilt in my knife cabinet.

I guess OP was having a bad day or something...
 
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