Why so many hideous folders?

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Sheckey said:
To be honest, I just think the OP needs to get over himself and realize that aesthetics are completely subjective so presenting your personal opinion as some definitive final word on design is a bit pompous and self important.
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Yes. The only opinions expressed here should be positive ones, or ones everyone agrees with.

Sheesh. The OP said he finds some knives ugly. He's entitled to his opinion and to express his opinion on this forum...that's what a forum is.
 
stabman said:
Riiight, Chris Reeve doens't know anything about proper knife design...
Must be why he keeps winning all those awards, because of how stupid the design is...
And everyone knows that only the stupidest of designs get copied by huge numbers of people...

Well, this once again has proven that the internet is really for porn, and not for learning anything factual.
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+1. A nice frame lock is a very minimalistic and elegant locking mechanism and does not necessarily lead to a tacticool mall ninja looking folder. In fact, most of the classiest modern folders, both production and custom use the frame lock. It isn't a stupid design, it's an excellent design and saying it is stupid is either quite ignorant or an obvious troll post. Folding knives have their limitations, regardless of lock type stabbing and twisting with a folding knife is just asking to get cut.

I definitely agree that many modern folders have an overly aggressive look to them, but there are just as many that don't. The one hand opening features and locking mechanisms can only be good things in the advancement of knife design. One hand opening and locking does not equate to an ultra-tactical stabbinator in most cases.
 
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when it can be shown that one of the horrible looking, EXPENSIVE, 'tactiKool' blades is functional, I might look at them. Right now, they strike me as something to appeal to the little dweebs that sit in their parent's basement playing 'world of warcraft' all day. :D
 
Mannlicher said:
when it can be shown that one of the horrible looking, EXPENSIVE, 'tactiKool' blades is functional, I might look at them. Right now, they strike me as something to appeal to the little dweebs that sit in their parent's basement playing 'world of warcraft' all day. :D
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Well, as I don't live in a basement--or with parents--and HATE World of Warcraft, perhaps I can help...
-The Umnumzaan works well for bushcrafty tasks
-The SmF and SnG work fine for woods work too, although the thinner blade of the SnG works better. Both were convex edged/reprofiled by me, as the stock edge is to thick and obtuse
-The Titanium Spyderco Military cuts alot like, well, the Spyderco Military.:eek: If you've ever used one, you'll know they are quite efficient at cutting.

Sure, we can all find some ridiculous example of whatever genre of knife we don't like, and hold it up as an example of how horrid ALL knives which share any of those features must be.
 
MSGBN said:
[video=youtube;3p-imJXEyvY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p-imJXEyvY[/video]

Actually is a solid and well built knife.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p-imJXEyvY
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I've deanimated quite a few turkeys in my lifetime, including two TurDuckEns that I'd prepared. You can get the same results in that vid by using a sharpened 4" kitchen paring/general use knife. A Ginsu would have worked just as well.
 
Mannlicher said:
when it can be shown that one of the horrible looking, EXPENSIVE, 'tactiKool' blades is functional, I might look at them. Right now, they strike me as something to appeal to the little dweebs that sit in their parent's basement playing 'world of warcraft' all day. :D
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Nah man, the guys that play WOW all like sword like objects....
The BF3 guys, they like tactiKool

:)
 
CWL said:
I've deanimated quite a few turkeys in my lifetime, including two TurDuckEns that I'd prepared. You can get the same results in that vid by using a sharpened 4" kitchen paring/general use knife. A Ginsu would have worked just as well.
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Sure. Unless the turkey is whooped up on bath salts. Then the Wagner DeLifeinator is the only option.
 
CWL said:
I've deanimated quite a few turkeys in my lifetime, including two TurDuckEns that I'd prepared. You can get the same results in that vid by using a sharpened 4" kitchen paring/general use knife. A Ginsu would have worked just as well.
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I've never been attacked by dead birds, so I wouldn't know what knife is best for dealing with them.
 
zachtateknives said:
Nah man, the guys that play WOW all like sword like objects....
The BF3 guys, they like tactiKool

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I stand corrected. :D

.........and it's all in good fun anyway. Nothing at all wrong in criticizing what you don't find attractive, OR in defending what you do like. :cool:
 
Cal45 said:
I guess OP was having a bad day or something...
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Because he doesn't like a style of knives that someone else may like?

I don't remember seeing the "If you don't like something, keep your mouth shut." rule on BF!

Those scales with all the sharp ridges and deep channels going all over the place? I think they are ugly and uncomfortable.

I guess I must be having a bad day. Or maybe I'm a "hater"! :D
 
marcinek said:
Sure. Unless the turkey is whooped up on bath salts. Then the Wagner DeLifeinator is the only option.
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Toxicology reports are back! Not Bath Salts, but Marijuana is the evil drug that turns people (turkeys) into cannibals!
 
Mannlicher said:
Nothing at all wrong in criticizing what you don't find attractive, OR in defending what you do like. :cool:
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Thank you. Excellent point. If I want a knife discussion site where only one opinion is to be discussed, I'm sure I can find one. :D
 
CWL said:
I've deanimated quite a few turkeys in my lifetime, including two TurDuckEns that I'd prepared. You can get the same results in that vid by using a sharpened 4" kitchen paring/general use knife. A Ginsu would have worked just as well.
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Thanks...!. Please let all the forum members know that it okay to sell all of their knives at this time.
GROUP BUY ON GINSU"S!. Imagine the savings!.
 
Zach Gulsby said:
More for me.

It's probable that you disengaged the lock yourself on accident when your hand twisted. I wouldn't call that a failure of the lock, rather a part of the design you have to be conscientious of when you're using it.

Also, I carry an 0560 and it's never pulled my pants down. I leave that task to my girlfriend.
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You are correct I definitely disengaged the lock when I torqued the handle. I find the design to be faulty for any hard use application. So why would anyone want a heavy tactical folder that has that design flaw ?
 
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JParanee said:
You are correct I definitely disengaged the lock when I torqued the handle. I find the design to be faulty for any hard use application. So why would anyone want a heavy tactical folder that has that design flaw ?
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What brand and model knife was it?
 
I find this conversation to be a bit strange.

First, we are talking about how traditionals have been around for hundreds of years and have proven themselves. I am guessing whenever a knife like a stockman or congress pattern or whatever the first multi bladed knives were, they weren't necessarily traditional, right? I mean at some point someone had to add an extra blade, and when they did, I am sure it was the "tactical-overkill" knife of it's time. I know poeple think heavy duty folders are a fad, but who can really tell the future? It is simply the direction of the industry for now, and that's all we can really know without guessing.

Second, why are big frame locks so worthless? I have skinned several animals with my ZT0561, and never found it to be useless. I have done a ton of working man's chores with it and never found it to be unnecessary, only comfortable and hand-filling. I certainly love my traditionals, but when I have solid copper wire to cut I don't reach for one in a pinch, my Case Mini Copperhead would be devastated. The other nice thing is that I can have a big comfortable handle, tough and wear resistant ELMAX blade steel, and a 3.75" blade all in a handy package clipped to my pocket, not something I can do with any fixed blade I own. I have never found my 0561 to be a hassle to carry, it carries more conveniently than my Izula 2 and is more comfortable to use with my big hands anyways.

I can certainly understand why someone wouldn't have a use for one, but to say they are useless for everyone is a bold statement. I mean, a paint brush, paint, and a canvas is of no use to me for I cannot paint, but I dare not say they are useless for everyone.

I guess I just don't understand the whole argument this thread has turned into. It was about looks, now it's about bones to pick with framelock designs and their utility. Don't worry guys, traditionals aren't going the way of the dinosaur, we are just adding to the collection.
 
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