Why so many thread asking for rec. for a really thick folder?

Within the next couple of days I have to cut a couch into pieces small enough to fit into garbage bags...I don't think I'll be using a SAK for that. :D
It'll probably take a few different cutting tools to accomplish the task, but it cannot be thrown out in one piece, is too falling apart to be donated, and I don't know anyone with a vehicle capable of taking it away.
And movers wanted $100 to take it...so it's knives to the rescue!
 
stabman said:
Within the next couple of days I have to cut a couch into pieces small enough to fit into garbage bags...I don't think I'll be using a SAK for that. :D
It'll probably take a few different cutting tools to accomplish the task, but it cannot be thrown out in one piece, is too falling apart to be donated, and I don't know anyone with a vehicle capable of taking it away.
And movers wanted $100 to take it...so it's knives to the rescue!
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Knives to the rescue indeed. Take some pictures of you cutting into edible sized pieces. Wish I could be there to help.
 
K.O.D. said:
Knives to the rescue indeed. Take some pictures of you cutting into edible sized pieces. Wish I could be there to help.
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Same. I'd spend an afternoon cutting some stuff down. Nice to use the knives and good therapy too. ;)
 
NetshadeX said:
Well... I can only speak for myself but your post had me thinking about me 0300BW and 0301. Whenever I hold these knives and handle them I always laugh at how silly they really are.

For starters, they don't really offer any additional cutting power over a simple tenacious, in fact the tenacious will likely outperform them everywhere outside of prying. They also, imo, make a lousy tactical blade offering sub par pierce cutting ability. And then there's the weight. 8 ounces? For an EDC? No the 0301 is a ridiculous product.....

....untill you actually hold one. The weight pressing down in the palm of your hand. That thick slab of overly wide S30V bladesteel that effortlessly deploys. Smooth, but with authority because of that controlled assisted opening. You feel the handle, the way the it fits your hand like it's melted in there. You look down and see that manly hex-bolt pivot holding that tigerstriped/black(wash) blade and everything just makes sense.

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What's that small knife in the picture?
 
RedLynx said:
SoGZilla?
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When it was alive it was. Usually not a huge sog fan, but the sogzilla's are a light thin knife with a great pocket clip. That one died a horrible death, but that said, no knife would have made it thru and looked any better than it does no matter the make,model or beefiness.
 
cross1178 said:
When it was alive it was. Usually not a huge sog fan, but the sogzilla's are a light thin knife with a great pocket clip. That one died a horrible death, but that said, no knife would have made it thru and looked any better than it does no matter the make,model or beefiness.
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I have a few zillas and also like the pocket clip... only problem being it is touted as a clip that can be changed for right or left carry... but when I remove the clips (ata least on the ones I have tested) to switch them over, it appears that a rivet in the handle makes it impossible to switch it over to left side, unfortunately. :/
 
RBid said:
Disagree.

If we're going to make common use statements explaining why people don't really need "hard use" folders, then we have to acknowledge that precision cutting of a sort that requires a thin blade is also not common use.

Where somebody says, "lol hard use is for fixies!", it can be said, "lol precision cuts are for xacto blades!"


My point with all of this is probably one we actually agree on: the vast majority of what enthusiasts do is extreme hair splitting. We seek to squeeze every tiny advantage out of our equipment, so we talk about things like relative lock strength, handle size vs hand fatigue, etc. Understanding that we ALL do this, it is very silly to poke people who carry "hard use folders" and in the same post split hairs by saying something doesn't "cut well".
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I didn't say anything about people not needing "hard use" folders. I said to each their own, and related my own preferences for thin knives, based on the hard fact that a thinner blade will cut through layers of material with more ease than a thick blade. That is not opinion. Doesn't mean both types don't have their places.

And yes, a razor or exacto does cut better, but they often have annoyingly slow/overly complicated locking systems and/or mechanics, versus a knife that can be opened and closed one handed in seconds. Thin modern knives are not the best; they are the middle ground.
 
When I need to pry I grab the Victorinox Tinker in my back pocket and pry with the large screwdriver/bottle opener. The folder I'd like but have never seen has just two locking blades, a thin knife around 3.5" for cutting and a screwdriver/pry bar for prying. The closest is the Victorinox Trekker whose blade and large screwdriver both lock. I'd like this in a thinner package with better steel. I would be okay with the blade set to one side like on a traditional to nest with the pry bar in a thinner body.
 
RemyKaze said:
I didn't say anything about people not needing "hard use" folders. I said to each their own, and related my own preferences for thin knives, based on the hard fact that a thinner blade will cut through layers of material with more ease than a thick blade. That is not opinion. Doesn't mean both types don't have their places.

And yes, a razor or exacto does cut better, but they often have annoyingly slow/overly complicated locking systems and/or mechanics, versus a knife that can be opened and closed one handed in seconds. Thin modern knives are not the best; they are the middle ground.
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Yup. Outside of splitting wood, which some can argue isn't even knife use, I have always thought to myself that a thinner blade would work better. Every time I've cut something. I think it boils down to philosophy and what one wants. I carry knives out of convenience and I want the cutting job to be effortless and quick. When I use thick knives I always have to work around the drawbacks of that thickness and I'm fully aware of that fact while I'm using it. Some people want to buy a knife that they like the looks/feel of and it'll be good enough at cutting stuff. That's cool but I can't say that I get it.

I don't use disposeable blades either. I don't like the disposeable nature of things in general but because they're disposeable, people tend to abuse them so they seem to always be dull. So I use my SAK instead.
 
My point about thick vs thin blades is very simple:

Blade drag is overplayed.

Common use doesn't involve the need to make cuts so precise that a Spyderco Techno or similarly fat stock won't do just fine by cutting with the tip or angling the blade to drag only the thinner part of the blade through the material.

A thinner blade isn't necessarily a better tool than a "hard use folder" for common use. The whole "please explain" thing is really one side hair splitting to rationalize their choice, just as so many do to rationalize hard use folders.
 
M-F 9-5 the most knife I usually need is my LionSteel Opera.
 
RBid said:
Blade drag is overplayed.

Common use doesn't involve the need to make cuts so precise that a Spyderco Techno or similarly fat stock won't do just fine by cutting with the tip or angling the blade to drag only the thinner part of the blade through the material.

A thinner blade isn't necessarily a better tool than a "hard use folder" for common use. The whole "please explain" thing is really one side hair splitting to rationalize their choice, just as so many do to rationalize hard use folders.
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What's common use? Stuff in which the vast majority of the population uses a pair of scissors for? ;) It's all a matter of taste, perspective and a varying expectation of what one wants from a tool. Some are more picky, some aren't.
 
Shotgun said:
What's common use? Stuff in which the vast majority of the population uses a pair of scissors for? ;) It's all a matter of taste, perspective and a varying expectation of what one wants from a tool. Some are more picky, some aren't.
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Agreed.

...which is why I think it's silly when people criticize one person for carrying "hard use" folders instead of thinner blades, or vice versa.
 
I haven't read through the thread, though I surmise the response of "Because I want it, that's why" has probably been mentioned a few times. :D

That would be my response also. I have thin knives, Opinels and Moras, but I also love thick blades too. Nothing with either, and definitely nothing wrong with having both!! :thumbup:
 
I'm looking at getting a custom folder with 5/16 A2 blade stock, ya know, just because... Following that up with one in 3/16" stock because 5/16" is silly. :D:thumbup::thumbup::p

Thick knives can work perfectly fine if the grind is right.
 
I have plenty of thick folders but I'm looking for a folding knife that is literally as strong as a fixed blade... anyone know if I can get something like that?
 
RedLynx said:
I have plenty of thick folders but I'm looking for a folding knife that is literally as strong as a fixed blade... anyone know if I can get something like that?
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LOLOL Dude, you are terrible. :thumbup:
 
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