WIP: Arkansas locking Hunter

Great job Ken-the knife is a beauty-you make it look easy!!! Great attention to detail. I really like the color of the jigged bone and the shield. everything looks top shelf:thumbup:....Tony
 
Ken, what a great job!:thumbup: I was wondering how long did it take for you to hand jig the handles??


Thanks, CE
 
Ken, it's been a real treat watching you push past your boundaries yet again. Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.
 
Ken,

I have made a few attempts to add bone scales to some old beaters just for the education in it. I have never attempted to glue the scales first, just pin and peen. I have always countersunk the holes in the bone and back of the liner and then given them a good (sometimes overzealous) smack to swell the pins and then peened them down to a mushroom shape. I have always been reluctant to try and file or sand the side of the pin on the scale side for fear of marring the bone.

As a result my pins get too big if you will, and look out of proportion to the knife. I am curious, do you rely more on the glue to hold the scales, or do you rely on the pins? I assume that whatever tool you use to round off the pins also gives them some edge holding ability by forming a lip on the edge to grab the scales. Am I on the right track? From what I've done, pinning the knife back together is the most difficult part.

Chuck
 
Ken,

Well I was going to wait until you were all done to compliment you on this thread (and your work!), but I just couldn't wait: It's fantastic!! And thanks for taking all that time to photograph the progress, sure must interrupt the 'ol work flow a bit.

Charlie, and Ken, I may be wrong but I think that shield is actually referred to as an "empire" shield. Not sure if it's a referrence to the company or just a coincidence in names. Do correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not 100% positive on that.

Eric
 
To Charlie and Ken:

Apologies for my apparent impatience. I was still at the bottom of page one of the thread and hadn't found the succeeding pages. Just tonight I found the balance of the thread. This is a REALLY nice project. Congratulations to you both. It's bad enough to be OLD and worse to be technically inept!

Don F.
 
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aggiebuilder2003 said:
Ken,

I have made a few attempts to add bone scales to some old beaters just for the education in it. I have never attempted to glue the scales first, just pin and peen. I have always countersunk the holes in the bone and back of the liner and then given them a good (sometimes overzealous) smack to swell the pins and then peened them down to a mushroom shape. I have always been reluctant to try and file or sand the side of the pin on the scale side for fear of marring the bone.

As a result my pins get too big if you will, and look out of proportion to the knife. I am curious, do you rely more on the glue to hold the scales, or do you rely on the pins? I assume that whatever tool you use to round off the pins also gives them some edge holding ability by forming a lip on the edge to grab the scales. Am I on the right track? From what I've done, pinning the knife back together is the most difficult part.

Chuck
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Chuck,

I rely on the pins to hold the scales. I do the same as you as far as the counter sink on the inside and slight taper on the outside, peen, then spin the head. I feel the glue more or less holds things together while building , it also may keep moisture from between the scale and frame.

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waynorth said:
With apologies to Ken - a brief intermission:o!

Yes...please excuse me Ken..I will pm next time and try not to interupt the flow of things, excuse my rudness there. :(
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Duncan,

No worries at all, its all good:thumbup:

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To Charlie and Ken:

Apologies for my apparent impatience. I was still at the bottom of page one of the thread and hadn't found the succeeding pages. Just tonight I found the balance of the thread. This is a REALLY nice project. Congratulations to you both. It's bad enough to be OLD and worse to be technically inept!

Don F.
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Don,

I am glad you found the rest of the thread and that you are enjoying it!

Ken
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ea42 said:
Ken,

Well I was going to wait until you were all done to compliment you on this thread (and your work!), but I just couldn't wait: It's fantastic!! And thanks for taking all that time to photograph the progress, sure must interrupt the 'ol work flow a bit.

Charlie, and Ken, I may be wrong but I think that shield is actually referred to as an "empire" shield. Not sure if it's a referrence to the company or just a coincidence in names. Do correct me if I'm wrong since I'm not 100% positive on that.

Eric
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Eric, I have no less than 17 Empires with that shield on them. Out of about 150 knives - over 10% of them.
I wonder if the shield got its name from the company. If you recall where you saw the reference, please post it!
Charlie
 
navihawk said:
I am amazed at the number of knifes Waynorth has.:eek:
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Guys, a lot of them are worn/broken:o; I accumulate them for reference. One can learn a lot about a particular cutlery from worn out knives, and they can often be had for very little money. They are also useful for knifemakers who want to duplicate an old pattern. I've sent out a lot of them for that purpose, some completely disassembled.
I only show you guys the good ones!!;)

Meantime, while we are yakking away in Ken's thread, he is working his fingers to the bone, creating a beauty of a knife.
We're all waiting patiently for the next installment, Ken. . . . . .no hurry!!!:D
 
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waynorth said:
Meantime, while we are yakking away in Ken's thread, he is working his fingers to the bone, creating a beauty of a knife.
We're all waiting patiently for the next installment, Ken. . . . . .no hurry!!!:D
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:o

Actually I am enjoying a beer and waiting on some beer brats:thumbup:

I have to say, I have had a hard time putting down the hunter. This is the first knife that reminds me of the way a Parker side by side shotgun feels, sounds when you open and close it.

I WILL be back in the shop tomorrow or Monday.

Ken
 
Enjoy that well earned beer Ken.
...In the meantime...Im going to make a complete dork out of myself ( if I havent already by now ) and ask this question.
Please keep in mind that I am as green as you can get with folders-and I admit I dont understand the workings of them-but will learn.

Q.... Threaded Bolsters..obviiously this has been mentioned-by yourself, and Charlie... just recently, and I wanted to but have been a bit embarrased to be honest to ask, ...
Ken..what is the real meaning of threaded Bolsters, and why are they so different to ...say an ordinary Bolster..Please forgive the very green nature of my question :o :o
 
When you file/score fine lines across the bolsters, parallel to the edge that meets the handle material, you are adding decorative thread (fine) lines; hence, "threaded" bolsters.
If you grab your rat-tail (round) file, and file in a big rounded convex groove across the bolster, you wind up with Rat-tail bolsters.
Both are decorative, although a rat-tail groove on a large knife can keep you from slipping onto the blade - maybe.
The Eureka Jack posted up above has threaded, rat-tail bolsters - both kinds of groove!
Threaded bolsters on this old Schrade;
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Rat-tail bolsters on this Harness Jack.
Note, they are also "spooned"! (just to confuse you!):D That is where the tip is grooved or scooped, sort of resembling a spoon - a bit of a stretch sometimes.
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Aahh..ok, Im with you now..I wondered if it was a different type of works inside the actual bolster ( duh )
Thank you for clearing that for me, much appreciated.
 
Ken how did you scribe the shield on the bone? Did you use the dental file on the dremel?
 
Charlie and Ken, here's what I've got so far re. the shield name. I'll try to stop by Canal Street next week, I might be able to snag Wally or maybe even Dave Swinden to find out more info.:

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Eric
 
Great info, Eric! What year is that ad from??
Can't wait to hear what the old Schrade guys have to say!
 
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