World War I Navy Issue Knife

wundergussy said:
Charlie, what color option is this?
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Same as Philllll's post #134, Antique Yellow.
There will also be "Case" Red, and Antique Amber.

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I'll be sure to eat my spinach Charlie, always an admirer of the labels and only just recently checked up on the progress from the GEC site. These knives are coming along beautifully.
 
mjhill said:
I hope they consider making a larger run that includes saw cut bone
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The original issue knives employed jigged bone MJ. In striving for authenticity, I try to stick with what was traditionally done. I cannot speak for others.
 
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waynorth said:
The original issue knives employed jiggled bone MJ. In striving for authenticity, I try to stick with what was traditionally done. I cannot speak for others.
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And that is appreciated by me, for one, since I probably won't be able to find a high quality example of the originals.
 
Looks like they are releasing some Tidioute versions as well. Red micarta ones on GEC's front page.
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"Navy Knife" wasn't listed on the production schedule. It's a surprise seeing it. It would look better with a long pull and the etch is weird to me.
 
waynorth said:
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Charlie, could you please say more about the pin and bail placement(s) on these knives?

As glimpsed here on yours...
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... and seen more clearly seen in this image featuring a Tidioute version, the pattern features both an end/rear pin *and* a [Big!] bail, with the bail located further from the end of the knife than I'm used to seeing.
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Thoughts and design-decision clarifications, if you would. :)

~ P.
 
pertinux said:
Charlie, could you please say more about the pin and bail placement(s) on these knives?

As glimpsed here on yours...

... and seen more clearly seen in this image featuring a Tidioute version, the pattern features both an end/rear pin *and* a [Big!] bail, with the bail located further from the end of the knife than I'm used to seeing.

Thoughts and design-decision clarifications, if you would. :)

~ P.
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Agreed I'd like to know Charlie's thoughts.
It seems a touch much considering there's less material surrounding the pin in that area but it looks like the bail will still have ample spacious room for any lanyard you may need.
I wonder why they changed it.
 
I will ask about the bail location my friends.
I have relied on Bill to make sound engineering decisions for 10 years, and he has never failed to make the best knife possible!
I know he has tried different locations and methods for Bail attachment over the years.
There must be a half a dozen techniques for attaching bails;
Bails that snap into a tube, ones that mount on extended assembly pins, etc, etc. Certainly a topic for discussion!
 
If you go back to Charlie's OP in this thread, the bottom two knives, a New York Knife and a W.R. Case, have the pin and bail done as on the new production knives. Also on the knife above posted by cbr1000.

However, Charlie's Robeson and my Robeson, posted later in the thread, have the bails mounted on an extended assembly pin, as do other original Navy issue knives from WWI.

What they are doing with the new production knives is consistent with some, but not all, of the originals.
 
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cbr1000 said:
Pin/bail location on an original
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waynorth said:
I will ask about the bail location my friends.
I have relied on Bill to make sound engineering decisions for 10 years, and he has never failed to make the best knife possible!
I know he has tried different locations and methods for Bail attachment over the years.
There must be a half a dozen techniques for attaching bails;
Bails that snap into a tube, ones that mount on extended assembly pins, etc, etc. Certainly a topic for discussion!
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CNoyes said:
If you go back to Charlie's OP in this thread, the bottom two knives, a New York Knife and a W.R. Case, have the pin and bail done as on the new production knives. Also on the knife above posted by cbr1000.

However, Charlie's Robeson and my Robeson, posted later in the thread, have the bails mounted on an extended assembly pin, as do other original Navy issue knives from WWI.

What they are doing with the new production knives is consistent with some, but not all, of the originals.
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Thanks much, gentlemen! I realize now I'd seen the 'forward' bail before on some of the older knives, but it hadn't really registered until seeing the picture of the new Tidioute.

I will be interested to learn whatever reasons/preferences there may be regarding the differing location and construction of the bail(s) historically -- mechanical? Field-use preference? Streamlined engineering processes?-- and the trade-offs, if any, on those fronts.

In the meantime, I'm grateful for those who bring these patterns forward, with idiosyncrasies old and new. :thumbup:

Always something new to ponder. :)

~ P.
 
Very glad to see a regular run of the Tidioutes. An absolute must have for my nephew who is enlisted in the Navy. He will be turning 25 this Christmas Day and I am looking forward to gifting him one of the Ebony or Cocobolo if I can score one!
 
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