Would you use your own classy gents folder at a fancy restaurant?

[stabman]

The disconnect is when you have someone sure that they are in not just a good eatery but a "fancy" one and they've got a cut of steak that's one of the most tender (folks keep citing rib-eye) but that they can't cut the steak unless they use a special knife. Either they're fooling themselves about what's on their plate or they are neurotic around knife use because they have to justify why.

I can cut the meat with the boring knife they provide.
I can also open my mail with my keys.

However, I have spent ungodly amounts of money on knives.
I MAKE knives.
In my dreams, I have my knives with me.
I go out into the wilderness surrounded by insects I'm allergic to the bites of, because I get to use knives there.

You better believe I'm gonna use my knives whenever I get a chance.

 

[JParanee]

We all understand what will work and that we dont need to really use nice things in life....... that simple tools will work just fine

Have fun

 

[stabman]

We all understand what will work and that we dont need to really use nice things in life that simple tools will work just fine

Have fun

The bolded part is what so many people seem to forget to do.

 

[JParanee]

Y

The bolded part is what so many people seem to forget to do.

Yes Stabman very true

I ate out Friday at a decent place

The food was great and my steak would of cut just fine with a butter knife but i still used my little Shun to great effect

Came home and gave it a thorough cleaning after just wiping it off

Whisked it on a jewelstik a few passes ....... i enjoyed that too

Merry X Mas buddy

 

[stabman]

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Yes Stabman very true

I ate out Friday at a decent place

The food was great and my steak would of cut just fine with a butter knife but i still used my little Shun to great effect

Came home and gave it a thorough cleaning after just wiping it off

Whisked it on a jewelstik a few passes ....... i enjoyed that too

Merry X Mas buddy

You as well.

 

[r8shell]

S Smiling [if you need razor sharp and very tough blade for your food - you need a better restaurant.]
Actually, no. Tough meat can be delicious if cooked the right way. There are many tough meats out there which are just a treat when cooked with some thought, afterthought and knowledge. I can enjoy them, still, but I like to slice them thin since my teeth are no longer that agressive. I like, also, to cut tender meat to thin slices. The teeth, you know...

If the issue steak knife doesn't cut the prime cut ribeye, then they didn't give you a prime cut ribeye. Walk out and eat at a more honest establishment.

There are sometimes other foods that need cutting besides steak. Ever try to cut a lightly steamed/grilled broccoli stem with a butter knife? It's more likely to fly off the plate.
The dumplings were fork tender.

 

[stabman]

There are sometimes other foods that need cutting besides steak.

There are other foods besides steak?

 

[Danke42]

I can cut the meat with the boring knife they provide.
I can also open my mail with my keys.

However, I have spent ungodly amounts of money on knives.
I MAKE knives.
In my dreams, I have my knives with me.
I go out into the wilderness surrounded by insects I'm allergic to the bites of, because I get to use knives there.

You better believe I'm gonna use my knives whenever I get a chance.

Like I said that's fine and I don't really care.

It's when someone explains using their knife to eat with like they're reliving Under Siege that things get a bit you know what.

 

[JParanee]

There are sometimes other foods that need cutting besides steak. Ever try to cut a lightly steamed/grilled broccoli stem with a butter knife? It's more likely to fly off the plate.
The dumplings were fork tender.

I did cut some very good broccoli and found it very satisfying

 

[JParanee]

Like I said that's fine and I don't really care.

It's when someone explains using their knife to eat with like they're reliving Under Siege that things get a bit you know what.

I dont think we’ve seen that here

What I’ve seen is people telling people that they eat in restaurants where the meat is to tuff and that it can be construed that it would even be rude in some settings

Which i do not think is true

 

[Shadowedhand]

My grandfather always used one of his knives to eat. It really eliminates the chance of using a dull knife and being frustrated. Love seeing everyone’s photos of great food and knives!

 

[mt666tm]

No. I maintain my edges. There is nothing fancy about wrecking my edge through contact with a ceramic dinner plate. That just makes me cringe!

I love using my knives for food prep on a cutting board

 

[lieferung]

No. I maintain my edges. There is nothing fancy about wrecking my edge through contact with a ceramic dinner plate. That just makes me cringe!

That's the main thing going through my mind when thinking of using my knives at an eatery. Maybe it's cuz I live in the big city, but I've never had a steak that couldn't be cut with the supplied knife.

 

[Smiling]

So in a nutshell:

Is it OK if you use your knife at a fancy restaurant?
- Yes.

Is it 100% justified?
-No, unless you want to eat tough food and you have bad teeth.

I agree with someone who said that he uses his knife because he wants to.
IMO there is too many downsides, but each to their own.
Are you OK with having to clean your knife afterwards, dulling your blade on ceramic plate...?
Then do you believe that your pockets and pocket knife are clean enough for food?
Are you OK with people giving you looks?

If answer to all of the above is yes, then go ahead and use your knife.

 

[herisson]

So in a nutshell :
[Are you OK with having to clean your knife afterwards, dulling your blade on ceramic plate...?] What's the problem ? Are you unable to clean and sharpen your knife ? It's not work, it's good time.
[Then do you believe that your pockets and pocket knife are clean enough for food?] Hell yes ! My home and clothes are clean enough that I don't have to fear overwhelming bacteria (bacterii ?)
[Are you OK with people giving you looks?] Sorry, they don't. Never, ever. But I may chalk that up to my Santa Claus look. I look kind and act politely, too.
TLDR version : YES !

 

[ZDHart]

There is no doubt that the supplied knife at a fine steak house CAN cut the meat. But, there's a huge difference between TEARING through a fine steak with a serrated steakhouse knife and SLICING through it effortlessly with a very sharp, very fine edge.

"Justified" to use your own knife at a fine restaurant? What? Who is thinking about justification? It's simply a matter of enjoying using a very fine knife. No "justification" is needed.

We had dinner tonight at what is arguably the finest steakhouse in Scottsdale (Dominick's) - a town that is full of fine steak houses. The supplied steak knife was serrated and certainly was capable of cutting through the steaks, it wasn't necessary to use my own - but my beautiful little KAI knife, which was designed to take to "dinner out", was quite a joy to use and sliced through our wagyu ribeyes like a hot razor through soft butter. Quite a pleasure to cut with it. I'm glad that I brought it - and so was my wife.

The place was packed, as usual. And the meal, also superb as usual.

As for "offending" the chef, or the restaurant, by using my own knife, or making a "scene" by doing so - that's utterly laughable. Not a single sole, including our wonderful waiter, even took notice of the knife.

To think that oneself would the center of attention among the many observable subjects in a busy fine restaurant is laughable (self-centered). People are far too engaged with themselves and their party to be paying any attention at all to what other people in a restaurant are cutting their food with.

When I showed the KAI to our waiter, she thought it was a fantastic idea to bring such a razor sharp knife - not because it was necessary - simply because it's really ENJOYABLE to use such a wonderfully sharp bit of cutlery to slice through a fine steak!

 

[JParanee]

I even used mine on a prime rib omelette brunch



I was surprised that I wasn’t arrested

I’m quite sure that even If I used this no one would notice

 

[not2sharp]

I think this thread points to a possible market in high end personal tableware. How many would be willing to buy and carry personal eating utensils; not folding knives, but actual individual dinning sets?

At least you would know your equipment is sharp, comfortable to use and clean.

n2s

 

[WValtakis]

I think this thread points to a possible market in high end personal tableware. How many would be willing to buy and carry personal eating utensils; not folding knives, but actual individual dinning sets?

At least you would know your equipment is sharp, comfortable to use and clean.

n2s

Oh man, I've had some crappy stamped tableware that had a sharper burr on the handle of the fork than the edge of the knife

 

[not2sharp]

I think it might be cool to carry a neat case with a personal dinning set. You just have to be careful that the wait staff doesn’t inadvertently collect your $500 set along with the dirty dishes.

Then again people do this with chop sticks.

n2s