You think that your Striders or Busses are prybars? Check this out.

Cliff Stamp said:
If you chose a tougher steel, you could make it more of a knife while also making it a more functional prybar.

-Cliff
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I understand why it would be a better prybar, but why would that make it a better knife? Yeah, it will probably chip a bit more readily than 420 for example, but its edge-holding ability is far superior. By the way, AFAIK D2 is only brittler than many other steels when it's not properly heat-treated - I'm 100% sure that this is not the case here.
 
I like it. Congrats on having an imagination and the guts to put your money where your dreams take you.

Big thumbs up, pal.

Phil
 
Personally I like it, useful or not. It must feel pretty heavy in the hand and without the guard I wouldn't use it unless say grip tape or something was applied. Still I like it, neat piece there.
 
I like many of Juergen's knives, but have never cared for his really thick ones. If they were 1/3" - 1/2" at the guard and then had a distal taper, I would probably like them. Staying that thick almost all the way to the tip just doesn't turn my crank. However, these knives were not made for me.
 
nelsonmc said:
Personally I like it, useful or not. It must feel pretty heavy in the hand and without the guard I wouldn't use it unless say grip tape or something was applied. Still I like it, neat piece there.
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I've handled the blank and since it's so narrow and only about 8 inches (OAL) it's rather lightweight.
 
Quiet Storm said:
I understand why it would be a better prybar, but why would that make it a better knife?
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Because you could reduce the cross section accordingly.

...its edge-holding ability is far superior.
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D2 doesn't have superior edge retention for what that class of knife is optomized for.

..D2 is only brittler than many other steels when it's not properly heat-treated
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D2 is similar in toughness to the high carbon stainless steels like ATS-34, and a lot of people do promote these are very tough steels, however consider that :

That class of materials are brittle compared to AUS6A class stainless, which are brittle compared to tool steels like A2 which are brittle compared to full hard 1095 which is brittle compared to differentially tempered 52100 which is brittle compared to something like S7.

D2 is pretty much near the bottom of the list in regards to toughness, the only steels that are more brittle are the very high alloy grades like S90V/10V, or M2 when all are ran really hard.

The handle also looks squarish and really insecure, if I was doing really heavy prying with that I would want more protection for the grip and a more contoured grip.

-Cliff
 
Cliff
That class of materials are brittle compared to AUS6A class stainless, which are brittle compared to tool steels like A2 which are brittle compared to full hard 1095 which is brittle compared to differentially tempered 52100 which is brittle compared to something like S7.
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A2 (tempered) is more brittle than full hard 1095? Could you please cite your source for that claim?

D2 doesn't have superior edge retention for what that class of knife is optomized for.
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This is not really a class of knives, this is a single knife of his on design to his specs. It is a strong assertion that he did not optimize his knife for his own use. If he wanted a knife with significant prying ability with good edge retention on fiberous and abbrasive materials (for example prying open crates and cutting rope and carboard, a quartermaser type knife) then his steel choice would seem very sound.

For self defense, I don't think edge holding is much of an issue.
 
knifetester said:
A2 (tempered) is more brittle than full hard 1095? Could you please cite your source for that claim?
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I think only you and Alvin, and possibly Thom would have caught that. I meant fully hardened, no differential temper.

If he wanted a knife with significant prying ability with good edge retention on fiberous and abbrasive materials (for example prying open crates and cutting rope and carboard, a quartermaser type knife) then his steel choice would seem very sound.
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Prying with a steel which has limited ability to plastically deform isn't a good ideal for many reasons, primarily when it breaks it can fracture violently. Do you really want a prybar which can send a shard of sharpened metal into your face or throat?

Secondly, the use of a prybar is limited in versatility when the material can't take heavy impacts. Prybars, even light ones like wonderbars not just wrecking bars, are often impacted to get them into a crack or opening so they can exert the necessary leverage.

As for edge retention, the cutting edge lifetime would be greatly increased if a tougher steel was used which would give a much greater initial cutting ability. Plus it would also be vastly easier to sharpen.

By class of knives I meant the description he gave as a sharpened/prybar.

-Cliff
 
Secondly, the use of a prybar is limited in versatility when the material can't take heavy impacts. Prybars, even light ones like wonderbars not just wrecking bars, are often impacted to get them into a crack or opening so they can exert the necessary leverage.
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Prying with a steel which has limited ability to plastically deform isn't a good ideal for many reasons, primarily when it breaks it can fracture violently. Do you really want a prybar which can send a shard of sharpened metal into your face or throat?
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Both are very good points.

I don't think I am strong enough to bend that short, thick piece of hardened steel to its fracture poin though. With a dynamic load and using full body force maybe?
 
I like it. It makes for a nice single tool if in a hostile unbar environment.

And for the critics.... knife are tools, some are big some are small, some are tough and some are delicate. That's it. This is another tool. ;)
 
I have one of his thick tantos and it's great!! Feels also good in the hand!!

I can highly recommend Jürgen!!
 
really nice piece, but it is probably quite heavy, is'nt it? :confused:

You are right ordering such things, after all, it's your money, you do what you want with it, don't you ? :D

thanks for sharing those nice pics with us.. if you have other (even taken by you ! :p ) please post them !
 
Awesome piece of steel QS. If you're happy with it, that's all that matters. Ignore the critics and enjoy your new toy. Thanks for sharing. ;)
Scott
BTW, great choice of steel. :D
 
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