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I've been a knife nut for years and always carry, but I've never used my own knife at a restaurant. I'm paying the restaurant, so it might as well be their silverware getting dirtied up (and them doing the dishes)!
I dunno, that's a quote from AG. I did notice the tableware was rather unimpressive at a French restaurant where I had a pretty nice filet de boeuf au poivre.
They do work, when they give you one. I don't switch to my folder when the knife is crappy, because they're always crappy, but enough to tear through chicken, beef, or pork. I use my folder when they didn't give me something other than the butter knife. All I want to do is eat my food and leave. I have no interest in running the wait staff ragged, I'll just let it show in the tip, if I leave one. Atmosphere or ambiance or some experience don't concern me. If the food is edible, I'll make my way through it with the cheap steak knife, the SAK in my pocket, or my bare hands if need be. Most times, it isn't a fine dining experience. When there are infants wailing, arguments and parties at other tables, and the bus boy is non-existent, and they didn't bother to bring me the proper silverware for the dish, I'm just going to use my own knife because there's no reason not to. I sit at a booth whenever available, so noone from three sides knows what I'm doing or eating anyway. I never whipped out an Opinel 13, DDR Maxx, or an XL Espada, the knives I used where shorter or equal to the blade of a steak knife anyway. They were less tacticool since they were plain edged to the scary serrations of a steak knife. No blade coatings, no writing on the blade, no tantos, etc. Just a clean and shiny piece of metal that I used to cut through a piece of meat or bread. No one has a reason to notice or to care.
I don't know where you got that from. Go back and read. The dude simply said no (according to post). Hence my reaction. Clear?
I get to smash and tear my food apart with what is the equivelant of the side of a spoon.
You two can feel free to smash and tear your food apart with some ridiculous butter knife, not me.
I have eaten at every kind restaurant from a greasy spoon to 3 michelin stars. I have never, EVER, seen a place with knives as bad as you describe. They have ALWAYS done an adequate job cutting. EVERY SINGLE TIME.
The biggest issue here is that using a folder at a restaurant is a WANT and not a NEED and some are trying to tell others here on a knife forum that it's not..... And we know better..... That's the funny thing about it.
Yes I am sure we all know that some are looking for any excuse to play with their toys and that's fine, however a restaurant is not really the best place to do it... And MOST of the others eating really wouldn't know the difference between a flea market knife and a Sebenza so they really aren't going to impress anyone.
Just fess up.
Absolutely, for instance some of us want to keep our salad in the bowl, rather than having it pushed out of it when trying to cut up a friggin pepper with a rounded butter knife. I'm not talking fine dining here, just a quick bite while out.
I don't see ever needing a pocket knife for a steak, but come on. How can someone really care about how someone else cuts their food to the extent that a few are opposing it here.
Not quite sure who I was trying to BS, or where I ever posted that it was a need. In the instances where I used my own knife, it was because I needed a knife that I didn't have, sure. What I wanted was to get done with my meal and avoid another disappointing interaction with a waiter/waitress who didn't bring the proper silverware the first time. I already had to wait to be seated, wait to have my order taken, wait for the food to arrive - I'm not waiting for them to resolve their screw-up, which usually does not come in singles anyway. And no, nobody there knew the differences between knives and didn't know what I was doing. Nobody was impressed, and I'm glad they weren't. It would be a little disconcerting to have someone know exactly what utensil I had in my hand, as I try to be discrete as possible.
Anyone who noticed I was using my own folder was probably trying to see if I was using the right fork for my salad or the right spoon for my soup. When I get two forks at the restaurant chains that forgot my knife, they're the same anyway, so it's downright anarchy when the salad arrives. But some of these people get ridiculously sanctimonious over rules of etiquette for eating in places that have plastic menus. When the guy next to me is wearing an orange tank top and cutoffs that let me count his individual body hairs in a restaurant at 11 PM, I'll use whatever knife I prefer.
This entire forum is about wants over needs. There is no need for the locks, steels, and other materials we discuss so frequently. There is no need for custom kitchen knives or folders that are priced more than dinner for 12 at a decent restaurant. We could all get by with grandpa's slippie and some random fixed blade if we wanted; and we could eat dinner with them if we wanted, too.
The biggest issue here is that using a folder at a restaurant is a WANT and not a NEED..... And we know better.....Just fess up.