ZT 0801 lock bar slip; Does yours exhibit this behavior?

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Seilu said:
While I do not know the OPs history on the forum, what I have come to notice is that people attack anybody who do not sing the praises of KAI/ZT and it sickens me to some extent. People are not allowed to freely express their views on said company. I thought intelligent knife conversation would allow criticisms and compliments but I guess not. I have hit and miss knives (more hits than miss) from ZT and it seems people would rather hide the problems of KAI/ZT and ATTACK the people who express these problems. Yet these same people would publicly denounce other companies such as Microtech or others. Just something I have noticed.
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KnottyEagle said:
A little bit of research on your part would have cleared this entire post up for you.
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Educating yourself a little goes a long way in this regard. Missing some of the details and reading something out of context can have that effect. Maybe if you are inclined, you can search some of the OPs prior history by going into the profile and searching through some of the style of posts.

What it boils down to far as saying things, there is a right way and a wrong way. Having tact and some degree of knowledge about the subject matter makes all the difference in the world. Chronic complainers don't get much love anywhere from what I've seen on forums or in life. They usually have only one real goal, so they proceed with attention seeking behavior.
monger4142 said:
OP I read your post, and watched the video at the time you suggested. I think you have a valid concern, and I don't think you are a troll like others have said.*




The behavior of the knife in the video shows that the lock bar hasn't been set correctly during the manufacturing process. Frame lock knives are meant to travel a bit when being gripped and used, but not that far - certainly not on a brand new knife. as far as sending it in, I would just use the knife normally and see things out. the knife is not dangerous, the worst that will happen over time is it will develop lock rock/play instead of closing on your fingers type failure. *




It's immature to call OP a troll. if someone has a concern they don't need to keep it in the dark, especially if he thinks this is becoming a trend people should know about it. He also wanted advice on what to do about it... how is that "trolling"
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it is premature to make those very assertions about the subject entirely without having bothered to read anything to verify the claims made, which are not understated. Go ahead, give it a look.
 
I have not had the same issue with my 0801.I would not try to over travel my lockup on purpose as it works perfectly and is in the 40-50% range.It was the only knife I had in the field with me this weekend while hunting turkeys and pheasant.I used the ZT 0801 for processing the birds I harvested along with my friends.I had previously re-profiled and sharpened the edge down to 15 degrees to see how it would perform.When all was said and done the knife performed solidly and besides a little edge chipping from having to get through some bones the knife performed flawlessly.No problems with the lock bar and the steel preformed as expected if not better.A good hard use day for a good hard use knife in my book.I will take my edge up a few degrees and see how it performs in a few weeks hunting and continue to rotate the 0801 in my EDC.I had a wonderful pheasant dinner tonight all processed with the 0801.I have a great knife, dinner, and memories.Tomorrow night is turkey night.....
best wishes,
salmonkiller
 
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Duro, put the knife down and back away. Are you sure your parents should be letting you play with knives? You might hurt yourself! :eek:

You seem to to lack the basic knowledge required to use a folding knife. Do everyone a favor please. Log off of BF, and don't come back until you've grown up, found half a brain, and removed the silver entitlement spoon from your mouth. :rolleyes:

You've already gained a reputation in your short time here, and it's not one you want.
 
With all the hating on the OP, deserved or not, shouldn't this be in W&C instead of being a forum lynching in General? I agree a person should not bring up every little issue in a new thread because yes, it can hurt the company's business over nothing. Yet at the same time, even if you think duro is going overboard, if no one brought up issues about QC and safety, how would people know to steer clear of certain truly flawed knives? Maybe, from his point of view, he is trying to be helpful. Or maybe he IS being a troll. If so, why can members still not engage in rational discussion/argument without immediately discrediting the guy?

"I think you're wrong, and here's why" is better than "you're wrong because you always post threads crying wolf".

By the way, my solution is to simply not buy a knife with so many lock flaws (framelock). In my small opinion, Axis, compression, nested liner lock, back lock, and Tri-Ad all seem safer, and I think the reason framelocks are successful is primarily because they are open territory for most knifemakers while being stronger than traditional liner locks. That means these companies don't have to spend money inventing and getting patents on their own locks. Just my two cents.
 
I second the move to W&C!!! :D

PS - duro, good luck finding a custom maker to work with. Your current reputation proceeds you.
 
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SpyderPhreak said:
Duro, put the knife down and back away. Are you sure your parents should be letting you play with knives? You might hurt yourself! :eek:

You seem to to lack the basic knowledge required to use a folding knife. Do everyone a favor please. Log off of BF, and don't come back until you've grown up, found half a brain, and removed the silver entitlement spoon from your mouth. :rolleyes:

You've already gained a reputation in your short time here, and it's not one you want.
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You sir, just won the thread!!
 
SpyderPhreak said:
I second the move to W&C!!! :D

PS - duro, good luck finding a custom maker to work with. Your current reputation proceeds you.
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Lol, at least there it's a fair throwdown without the innocent bystanders. Tell us how you really feel!:D
 
RemyKaze said:
Lol, at least there it's a fair throwdown without the innocent bystanders. Tell us how you really feel!:D
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Right now I'd love to see this moved to W&C, so I could say exactly how I feel.

I'll admit, I'm not in the best of moods today, but this isn't the first time duro has spewed idioticism either. I usually give newer people here a fair bit of leeway, but so many of duro's posts here have been borderline trolling (and that fact has been pointed out to him many times), I suspect he's doing it on purpose now. :rolleyes: His posts certainly have that odor to them...
 
That's the point, this isn't the first time, or second time he's made one of these threads/posts...
 
chester22 said:
That's the point, this isn't the first time, or second time he's made one of these threads/posts...
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That is Remy's point. Duro is a known troll who loves to bring out the worst in people, so move his thread to where it belongs.
These off topic dogpiles and insult fests have no place outside of W&C.
It cheapens the forum and encourages people to push the boundaries of good behavior.
 
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Seilu said:
While I do not know the OPs history on the forum, what I have come to notice is that people attack anybody who do not sing the praises of KAI/ZT and it sickens me to some extent. People are not allowed to freely express their views on said company. I thought intelligent knife conversation would allow criticisms and compliments but I guess not. I have hit and miss knives (more hits than miss) from ZT and it seems people would rather hide the problems of KAI/ZT and ATTACK the people who express these problems. Yet these same people would publicly denounce other companies such as Microtech or others. Just something I have noticed.
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That's not it at all. We like having the manufacturers forums here and constantly airing imaginary problems or microscopic imperfections will drive them all away,one at a time. Maybe Spark should start some sort of MENTAL HEALTH support group forum section here.
 
duro is taking advantage of a flaw in the governance systems used by humans: how do we allow people to freely express themselves except the ones that make us mad?
allow him to post his threads in there relevant areas, just NO ONE respond. no one using this forum would take a thread seriously, no matter the topic, if the op was the lp

edit : YAY! 25 posts, im eligible for most GAW and statistically im likely to stay for another ~6-800 more. i'd say prolly so. thanks for the thread duro, if for no other good use than this :)
 
monger4142 said:
OP I read your post, and watched the video at the time you suggested. I think you have a valid concern, and I don't think you are a troll like others have said.

The behavior of the knife in the video shows that the lock bar hasn't been set correctly during the manufacturing process. Frame lock knives are meant to travel a bit when being gripped and used, but not that far - certainly not on a brand new knife. as far as sending it in, I would just use the knife normally and see things out. the knife is not dangerous, the worst that will happen over time is it will develop lock rock/play instead of closing on your fingers type failure.

It's immature to call OP a troll. if someone has a concern they don't need to keep it in the dark, especially if he thinks this is becoming a trend people should know about it. He also wanted advice on what to do about it... how is that "trolling"
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You sir are just plain wrong about this knife it is totally a NON issue and a sweet sweet knife.
 
Imho the OP's behavior is the problem and not the knife,hopefully it can be repaired. :)

 
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