ZT0560 edge DESTROYED by plastic zip tie

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Wow, this thread makes me feel a lot better. I put a dent in my edge, and was bummed. From this thread it seems like a pretty common thing.
 
When we use knives as tools at times there are calculated risks we take to perform a task because we don't have the correct tool for said task on hand.

That being said, i personally have had more edge chips on S30V than any other.
 
You might have to get down into the metal a bit to get to the strongest part of the steel.

I think when it is resharpened it will be less likely to chip.

Also hard / tough is always the balance.

A 5160 (tough but soft) folder could probably cut zip ties all day
(well, a couple hours at least before you have to sharpen it again) and never have a problem.
 
gytheran said:
I'd like to know the details... I've been looking at this blade for a while and I find it hard to believe that a $260 knife is going to perform worse than any knife I have ever used in my life. A plastic zip tie did that? I've never had a knife that couldn't handle a plastic zip tie. To be honest, it looks like you were trying to cut it like a pair of wire cutters(short damaged area instead of longer dull spot) instead slicing it like a knife is designed to be used. If that's not the case, then I apologize. I would NEVER buy a knife that couldn't handle cutting a plastic zip tie. I laughed out loud when I read zip ties being one of the worst things to cut... I use to use a Leek at work to cut heavy duty plastic strapping(far worse than zip ties...) all the time. Sure it would dull, but the edge never rolled and it certainly didn't chip...
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mines cut though ty-raps, zip ties, wire ties, chicken wire, very hard cured woods, 3 layers of 2-ply dirty cardboard and the most i've had was a micro chip you couldnt even see and that was from the chicken wire, all though it did chip when it came into contact with some bone of a very aggressive gopher my dog had cornered (not the best tool for the job but hey its what i had on me) that took a few mins on a 1200 grit DMt stone to work out (i find it funny i didnt even have to use the course stone)
 
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SOLEIL said:
Heavy zip ties are much harder to cut than plastic banding. I cut both all day. It does not matter how good, thick or thin the steel is. If you start a cut on a heavy zip tie and torque the knife wrong it will damage the edge. Softer steel will roll easily even on a straight cut. Tie edges not trimmed properly after being cut are like razor blades and will slice the crap out of you. I have scars 10 years old from getting cut from improperly cut tie ends. We even removed a vendor who refused to trim the ties on material they sent into us. We use small wire snips to cut the ends flush with the fastener. The fix for the edge is an easy one but will take time with a sharpmaker.
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Excellent post :thumbup::thumbup:
 
kimberfan said:
mines cut though ty-raps, zip ties, wire ties, chicken wire, very hard cured woods, 3 layers of 2-ply dirty cardboard and the most i've had was a micro chip you couldnt even see and that was from the chicken wire, all though it did chip when it came into contact with some bone of a very aggressive gopher my dog had cornered (not the best tool for the job but hey its what i had on me) that took a few mins on a 1200 grit DMt stone to work out (i find it funny i didnt even have to use the course stone)
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Gopher part made me smile. :thumbup:
 
kimberfan said:
all though it did chip when it came into contact with some bone of a very aggressive gopher my dog had cornered (not the best tool for the job but hey its what i had on me)
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Seriously?
Knife-fighting a gopher?

This just gave me a headache.
 
Is it true that factory sharpening machines can actually weaken the hardening of the metal right where the edge is? If so, it makes sense to get past that weakened portion by a good heavy sharpening by hand. Might be the entire issue here.
 
Guys, this is an isolated incident, not a widespread problem. I have never had this problem before, but I don't cut a lot of zip ties either. There are a number of things that could have caused this, and it is hard to tell which one it is. It could be user error (no offense meant to the OP). It could be an inclusion in the steel - it's rare, but it occasionally happens. The relevant fact is that this will be covered by our warranty service, although it is definitely an inconvenience for the OP.

I have contacted Scott and we will be making sure his knife gets fixed up.
 
kimberfan said:
mines cut though ty-raps, zip ties, wire ties, chicken wire, very hard cured woods, 3 layers of 2-ply dirty cardboard and the most i've had was a micro chip you couldnt even see and that was from the chicken wire, all though it did chip when it came into contact with some bone of a very aggressive gopher my dog had cornered (not the best tool for the job but hey its what i had on me) that took a few mins on a 1200 grit DMt stone to work out (i find it funny i didnt even have to use the course stone)
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This is definitely one of the more creative uses I have heard of for an 0560. :)
 
stabman said:
They also ate all your capital letters.;)
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Dude, give the guy a break for f$$$ sake.

Sounds to me like your giving him a hard time. Noob? I have been watching this forum for years. I just now made an account to use the exchange. Thanks
 
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Closing this thread as the issue has been resolved. Thanks for all the input everyone. Going to let ZT take a look at it.
 
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