ZT0606, who's on board?

Hackenslash said:
I'm still (impatiently) waiting on mine. I'm cheap and went with the free shipping option, so it looks like I won't have mine until tomorrow. The more I hear about the knife, the more glad I am that I jumped on board! Even with a typo on the CoA, it kinda makes the knife have some extra cool factor.

Has anyone seen a serial number higher than in the 300's? I'm trying to get a feel for how many of these are out there. I have a hunch the 0606 will become a sought after knife as the months and years go by.
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I'd be interested in this as well. Please post your serial nos. if you think they are high.
Highest of those I've seen at the auction site, of which there is a pretty good sample at this point, is Serial No. 335.
So 350-400 seems like a reasonable estimate at this point. Can anyone prove that wrong?
 
I ended up with "0123" which I'm gonna say is the best serial number that could have been had, besides maybe 0001. :-)

She is definitely a beauty.



 
Hackenslash said:
I have a hunch the 0606 will become a sought after knife as the months and years go by.
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That depends on what ZT does. Look at the 0392 market. The 0392PURBLKWC is still showing in stock at one of the original dealers.

A knife that according to ZT ""Good luck! These Limited Edition ZT & Rick Hinderer Factory Custom knives will go quickly." Blah blah blah..
 
The current 0606 quite possibly might be the ugliest knife I have ever seen.. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.. count me out..
 
ToxicBot11 said:
That depends on what ZT does. Look at the 0392 market. The 0392PURBLKWC is still showing in stock at one of the original dealers.

A knife that according to ZT ""Good luck! These Limited Edition ZT & Rick Hinderer Factory Custom knives will go quickly." Blah blah blah..
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Absolutely, I think ZT hurt the 0392 values horribly. I have the first two 0392s unused at home and they're probably worth a little less than I paid for them new. If this is just the first of many color combinations for the 0606, it'll hurt the value immensely. The key is how many pivots were made. I'd heard rumor that it was somewhere around 500, which would indicate that this is a stand-alone model. 500 pivots would lead to 400 or so retail knives made, which seems to fit the serial number patterns I've seen on the auction site and here. That's all just internet rumor-mongering though.
 
Hackenslash said:
Absolutely, I think ZT hurt the 0392 values horribly. I have the first two 0392s unused at home and they're probably worth a little less than I paid for them new. If this is just the first of many color combinations for the 0606, it'll hurt the value immensely. The key is how many pivots were made. I'd heard rumor that it was somewhere around 500, which would indicate that this is a stand-alone model. 500 pivots would lead to 400 or so retail knives made, which seems to fit the serial number patterns I've seen on the auction site and here. That's all just internet rumor-mongering though.
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Definitely something to consider, but here's my take...
As compared to the 0392 and the 0600, this is much more like the 0600, and not just because of the collaborator. Look at all the machining that went into the 0600, with that full contouring, diamond patterning and the CF inserts. A tremendous amount of machining, and no small feat on titanium. And the 0606 machining may trump even that by my estimation. By comparison, the 0392 are pretty plain slabs of titanium. Some nice chamfering on the edges, but not much else. Easy on the machines to keep cranking those out and just anodize/cerakote different colors on handles and blades as they have been. Plus the custom hardware for the 0392s supposedly comes from Hinderer. I believe Hinderer has much greater mass production capabilities (and mass production ambitions) as compared to RJM and his son.

My guess (and hope) is that these are one and done.
 
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My serial number is in the high 200s, so I've yet to see a knife numbered above 400...This could be a very limited LE if that's the case.
 
3-1-1 said:
Definitely something to consider, but here's my take...
As compared to the 0392 and the 0600, this is much more like the 0600, and not just because of the collaborator. Look at all the machining that went into the 0600, with that full contouring, diamond patterning and the CF inserts. A tremendous amount of machining, and no small feat on titanium. And the 0606 machining may trump even that by my estimation. By comparison, the 0392 are pretty plain slabs of titanium. Easy on the machines to keep cranking those out and just anodize/cerakote different colors on handles and blades. Plus the custom hardware for the 0392s supposedly comes from Hinderer. I believe Hinderer has much greater mass production capabilities (and mass production ambitions) as compared to RJ Martin and his son.

My guess (and hope) is that these are one and done.
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those are very good points, also should note that the screws and pivots for the 0392 are much simpler and very easy to make. there isnt even any sort of design or machining on the pivots. im not sure what the 606 pivots look like when they are taken out of the knife there may be some additional machining steps involved that we cant see on top of the machining we can see which is more complicated then the hinderer pivots.

on one hand i hope they dont make more as this would make mine more valuable
but on the other i would like to see what other versions of the 0606 they can come up with, even if they stayed with the same machining it would be nice to see some different color schemes, but i think if they do make another i bet it wont be exactly the same. I think they would come up with some other design to machine into the handles. kinda like the different handle designs they did for the 0801.

while im on the subject of the 0801 i really hope Todd Rexford will do a "factory custom. i love my 0801 and 0801BRZ as well as my 0804cf. I bet they could come up with something awesome if they deside to do a factory custom design! i would buy it sigh unseen, thats how much i like the stuff ZT and Todd Rexford make.
 
Hackenslash said:
Absolutely, I think ZT hurt the 0392 values horribly. I have the first two 0392s unused at home and they're probably worth a little less than I paid for them new. .
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I don't think ZT is concerned with the Values of there knives. They're Limited Production knives made to be used. If they wanted to they could charge double if they wanted them to be worth more
 
rogerxd45 said:
ok i tried that but for some reason when i try to send a message on their contact page it doesnt work and the email address i found info@vehementknives.com doesnt work either, i just got an error email responce saying it would not be delivered which is the same thing that happened when i tried sending an email to rjmartinknvies@comcast.net

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Thats not the right contact... I stated that before.. Google MCM pens, thats the right Matt. I doubt you'll be able to get a tool though. If they had one it would be out already for the customs
 
chester22 said:
I don't think ZT is concerned with the Values of there knives. They're Limited Production knives made to be used. If they wanted to they could charge double if they wanted them to be worth more
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Well, ZT needs to be concerned with the perceived value and demand for their knives to the extent that they continue to sell. That didn't work so well with the last 0392...

And I think that they're also aware that a large number of LE purchasers ARE collectors, not users, and those collectors must have a positive outlook about the value of the knives they purchase. If they charged $1000 for this knife, I wouldn't have bought it. I don't think many would. I had to choose between this and a new Reate for roughly the same cost. The ZT won due to exclusivity and my perception of its value.

It may still become a user though...:cool:

...just so darn big!
 
Every Limited ZT has sold out so I think they'll sleep ok at night haha. ZT better beat Reate lol

It's not to big to me... The 0888 wins that contest..
 
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Contacted my source at ZT and they will not reissue corrected certificates at this time. I don't know how i feel about that.
 
I received #280. Another LE that didnt seem to catch on was the 0801CF and 0801BRWCF. I ended up with a brwcf and neither of these knives seemed to get much love.
 
Here is an official E-Mail from ZT I just received there will NOT be re-issued certificates

I understand you wrote in about the misprint regarding the blade steel on the Certificates of Authenticity for the 0606CF. We initially stated an updated certificate would be sent out to you, however that was an internal miscommunication. We will not be sending out new certificates. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.





Thank you,





Ensley Walters



Customer Service Sporting Manager
 
mike007 said:
I don't think so these may be worth more with this mistake.
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I doubt it. Its just a piece of Paper.

Can't even think of the last time I have looked at the one of my 0392, probably when I 1st got it and moved it out of the way to get the knife lol
 
rogerxd45 said:
ok i tried that but for some reason when i try to send a message on their contact page it doesnt work and the email address i found info@vehementknives.com doesnt work either, i just got an error email responce saying it would not be delivered which is the same thing that happened when i tried sending an email to rjmartinknvies@comcast.net

I have never had this much trouble when trying to find an email address for a very well known person/business. when i needed to ask Todd Rexford a question i was expecting to get a response of some kind from an employee within a week or so but I got a email response from Todd Rexford himself in less then 24 hours as well as fast responses to my followup emails.
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Wrong Matt Martin. Here is the correct one: http://www.mcmpens.com/contact

He's always been really quick in all of my communications with him.

I don't think RJ actively maintains his website for that's why the e-mail may be defunct. I believe he prefers to communicate via text.

I wouldn't count on them making pivot tools however as the original pivotless pivot was designed to be non-serviceable by the owner. RJ actually uses some very strong special lock-tite to keep the pivot tension correct. I'm not sure what if any modifications have been made between the custom and this one.

People on instagram have already posted pics of them disassembled so it's not impossible. I know how to do it but it's not information I would readily disseminate because I don't want people complaining if they have issues.

RJ has specific steps listed on how to service his knives without disassembly.
 
ok so i found an awesome way to unscrew the pivot. i took 2 snap ring pliers and stuck the posts in two holes opposite each other on both sides of the knife. on the back side i used some snap ring pliers that have a 90 degree bend so the handle of the pliers and the handle of the knife were parallel to each other so i could hold both with one hand. and then just some straight snap ring pliers for the other side and after a little heat they came apart no problem! and no scratches or damage of any kind.

the first couple twists were pretty hard but after that they were pretty easy. It might be better if you use two people the first time you take it apart, but it can be done with one.
 
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