ZT0606, who's on board?

I understand having a hobby but this thread and others like it make me a little uncomfortable.
 
Rolex John said:
I think what you mean is that you disagree with my opinion which you're welcome to do.

Plenty of people think this knife is less than attractive and overpriced.
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until you hold one in hand its easy to say its overpriced but the second you open the box and start flipping it open and closed and checking it out in depth.....well its much harder to say anything about it not being worth every single penny, i just can describe how awesome this knife is. it is truly custom knife quality
 
rogerxd45 said:
until you hold one in hand its easy to say its overpriced but the second you open the box and start flipping it open and closed and checking it out in depth.....well its much harder to say anything about it not being worth every single penny, i just can describe how awesome this knife is. it is truly custom knife quality
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ZT should hire you as its sales rep. Please take this as a compliment because it is posts like yours that make me want the knife.
 
Rolex John said:
I think what you mean is that you disagree with my opinion which you're welcome to do.

Plenty of people think this knife is less than attractive and overpriced.
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No, I said what I meant and I meant what I said.

As for "plenty," it didn't seem like enough felt that way to assuage the selling out of this knife on the primary market.

Calling this knife overpriced is ridiculous, frankly. There are no signs that point to this being priced outside of what a piece with its specs and manufacture would go for otherwise.
 
Apec said:
Hope it stays that way, these jokers will think twice the next time a ZT LE comes out.
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Butt hurt much? For a bunch of guys who didn't like this knife, some of you sure seem to be hating on those of us who did. If you don't like this knife, don't come here posting pictures of a stock ZT claiming its a better knife...please. There are other threads here to participate in.

It looks like the secondary market is selling with at least a 25% mark-up. If you discount half the completed sales, some have cleared and not been reposted.
 
I almost pulled the trigger on one of these. Glad I didn't; that is not an attractive knife. I will be all over a plain Ti version though, or blackwash, or whatever else ZT might offer. Hopefully with a pivot that is user adjustable.
 
Rolex John said:
I think what you mean is that you disagree with my opinion which you're welcome to do.

Plenty of people think this knife is less than attractive and overpriced.
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And plenty of people thought it was awesome, enough so to sell out all that were available in about 23 minutes from what I could tell.

Plenty of knives out there to like, just move on and go like those.

The difference is that when I see a ZT thread, there are the same several people that crap it up.

There are plenty of knives out there I don't like, that I think look like crap, that are way overpriced for what you actually get. PLENTY.

I just don't go tell all the people that love those knives how superior I am for not liking them, and how trashy their taste is because they DO like them. That kind of thread-crapping does nothing for me, and it surely does not add to the thread. Where were you in Whitty's 456 thread if that is the love of your life?

Next up is the old "well this is a knife forum and if you don't like discussion blah blah blah...." argument. To that I just say that for a lot of people, the internet is a place to just be an ass. If your grandfather would have smacked you in the back of the head for saying something, you probably should not be saying it.

But - since there is no throttle or ability for anonymous internet denizens to be decent human beings, and there is apparently a need for people to force their negative feelings about anything onto others, then please do carry on.

I will end this by saying that I think anyone who spends thousands on a Rolex is getting taken for a long, expensive ride. Buy a Citizen, they are MUCH better looking, well made and unless you are trying to impress someone with your arm-jewelry, they will serve you for years without the unnecessary and ugly "look at me I am special and have lots of disposable income" factor. Make you feel any better? Does that kind of abrasive opinionated discussion add anything for someone who loves Rolex timepieces? No, but I will assume my point is totally lost in the bandwidth.

Edited to add - yours are some of the best pictures I have seen of the 456 - you should post them in Whitty's 456 thread.

best

mqqn
 
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I can understand why some people don't like the appearance of the 0606CF.

It certainly looks out of place next to the vast majority of plain grey knives these days. One might even describe the 0606CF as a gaudy knife. It's a bit like art deco versus mid-century modern architecture.

To be honest though, I didn't particularly like the look of the 0606CF at first either but I was drawn to the pivot design and the blade. Having been very impressed by almost every ZT offering recently, and thanks to my impulsive nature, I purchased one. I figured I could get it re-anodized later on if I really didn't like the color combo.

I can't stress enough how different it is having the knife in hand. The milling and contrasting anodizing (both in color and texture) are difficult to accurately convey with mere images. Not to mention that the build quality surpasses all the ZTs I've owned (except for the 0454). Additionally, I've owned a 0456, and while I think it's a great knife, it seems like only those of us with a certain level of connoisseurship can appreciate the additional attention to detail put into the 0606CF. It's the details like the clip with hidden hardware; the intricately milled backspacer; the textured carbon fiber insert; the steps, chamfers, and contours; and I haven't even mentioned the blade or the pivot hardware.

Long story short, calling the feature-rich 0606CF overpriced compared to the 0456 sounds foolish.

Edit: That's not to say the 0606CF is perfect. It's very heavy, doesn't include a tool for the pivot, and the edge on mine was ground unevenly.
 
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I'm bummed I missed this one. Guess I'll have to settle for this one.
 
sticktodrum said:
No, I said what I meant and I meant what I said.
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Oh. Well in that case you're wrong. [emoji23][emoji23]. My opinion is not wrong. Your opinion is not wrong. Statements of fact however can be judged to be absolutely right or wrong. Not opinions. [emoji849]

As for "plenty," it didn't seem like enough felt that way to assuage the selling out of this knife on the primary market.
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LE ZT's tend to sell out due to speculators. That's no proof of anything really. ZT has done some amazing LE models - the 777 comes to mind. Legendary models that have broad based appeal and are worthy of their price premium. This knife doesn't quite fit that mold IMHO. YMMV.

Calling this knife overpriced is ridiculous, frankly. There are no signs that point to this being priced outside of what a piece with its specs and manufacture would go for otherwise.
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I think a legitimate argument could be made on both sides of the price issue. My point is I don't see enough value to justify the cost. Again, pointing to the 0456 at half the price. Of course the fact that the knife doesn't appeal to me makes it hard to justify at any price.
 
MaxFactor said:
Long story short, calling the feature-rich 0606CF overpriced compared to the 0456 sounds foolish.

Edit: That's not to say the 0606CF is perfect. It's very heavy, doesn't include a tool for the pivot, and the edge on mine was ground unevenly.
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A $500.00 knife with an uneven grind isn't overpriced? Seems like the QA would have been a little better given the small production run. I don't think it's "foolish" to suggest it's overpriced. I think a good argument can be made that it is and isn't.
 
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mqqn said:
And plenty of people thought it was awesome, enough so to sell out all that were available in about 23 minutes from what I could tell.
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How many of the initial buyers were speculators buying the knife hoping to make money? Yes, I know this tends to suggest the knife isn't overpriced. That point as I've stated can be argued both ways.

I just don't go tell all the people that love those knives how superior I am for not liking them, and how trashy their taste is because they DO like them. That kind of thread-crapping does nothing for me, and it surely does not add to the thread.
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I don't disagree but my posts are far from what you describe. I've not denigrated anyone for liking this knife. I've merely stated my opinion. As much as I agree that the "you and your knife SUCK" web forum mentality is not desirable, neither is it helpful to have people with their sense of self-worth so tied up in their material purchases that they get butt hurt at the slightest suggestion that their beloved grail isn't universally loved. [emoji849]

If your grandfather would have smacked you in the back of the head for saying something, you probably should not be saying it.
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Papaw would have approved of my posts, FWIW.

But - since there is no throttle or ability for anonymous internet denizens to be decent human beings, and there is apparently a need for people to force their negative feelings about anything onto others, then please do carry on.
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At the risk of sounding trite, perhaps you should take your own advice and carry on? I'm not forcing anything on anyone. You certainly have the ability to not read my posts, or read them and choose not to be influenced negatively.

I will end this by saying that I think anyone who spends thousands on a Rolex is getting taken for a long, expensive ride. Buy a Citizen, they are MUCH better looking, well made and unless you are trying to impress someone with your arm-jewelry, they will serve you for years without the unnecessary and ugly "look at me I am special and have lots of disposable income" factor. Make you feel any better? Does that kind of abrasive opinionated discussion add anything for someone who loves Rolex timepieces? No, but I will assume my point is totally lost in the bandwidth.
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I would say you are welcome to your opinion which does not change in the slightest my love for the six Rolex watches I own or their intrinsic and absolute value. I can accept that Rolex watches aren't everyone's cup o' tea.

Edited to add - yours are some of the best pictures I have seen of the 456 - you should post them in Whitty's 456 thread.
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Thanks - I wasn't able to find the thread when I searched for it.

EDIT: I finally found it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
 
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Looks right at home with my other big folders

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Rolex John said:
Thanks - I wasn't able to find the thread when I searched for it.

EDIT: I finally found it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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Whitt uses the 0456 harder then any of his other blades and it still looks amazing. Even used it to break up some bricks once lol
 
RamZar said:
Try contacting Matt Martin at Vehement Knives who makes the custom pivot for ZT 060CF.
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ok i tried that but for some reason when i try to send a message on their contact page it doesnt work and the email address i found info@vehementknives.com doesnt work either, i just got an error email responce saying it would not be delivered which is the same thing that happened when i tried sending an email to rjmartinknvies@comcast.net

I have never had this much trouble when trying to find an email address for a very well known person/business. when i needed to ask Todd Rexford a question i was expecting to get a response of some kind from an employee within a week or so but I got a email response from Todd Rexford himself in less then 24 hours as well as fast responses to my followup emails.
 
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