2010 Forum Knife - Mission Statement

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Nice to see this project getting along and moving forward.

Personally, I like the old pattern blades, like the main blade on waynorth's harness jack. I have a Queen Barlow with that shape main blade, and not only is it fun to look at (it always reminds me of the older knives) but it is really useful.

I think Queen's clip point as seen on their "Gunstock" is great as well.

http://images.knifecenter.com/knifecenter/queen/images/40acsb.jpg

I have this one as well, and not only is it very traditional, but the blade is quite useful.

For a secondary blade, I would love to see something different, certainly other than a spear point. I would personally like to see a whittler blade or a sheep's foot. I think either of those would make the knife look very distinctive.

As far as size goes, I think everyone should cut a small block of wood (or find something) the size you are thinking you might want and stick it in your pocket.

If you actually want a 4 inch knife, cut a piece of wood or plastic about 4 inches long, with the width and height dimensions at about 1/2" and 3/4" respectively. Toss that in your pocket for a day and walk around with it.

That's the size of a regular Stockman pattern. That's a lot of knife for everyday wear and having carried that knife size (some where about 4 1/4" like my old Boker) I wore out many a pair of jeans at the pockets.

A four inch (or more) knife makes a great work and knocking around knife, but it won't be an EDC for a lot of guys. Even though I wear jeans every day, I still don't carry a knife that big as it is too much of a lump in the pocket and wears the clothes too much.

Robert
 
I just went back thru this thread and saw where the stag deal is out. Looks like bone is in !!
Greg
 
A 4" knife may be too big for EDC, for some people, Robert, but I think that misses the point. We have done 3 1/4", and 3 3/8" knives. And we'll probably do them again.
This year, let's listen to the big knife people.
We can't cover all bases here folks. If you don't get the knife of your dreams this year, you do get a good knife, and you can point to this year, and the next time get your first choice instead of your second choice. It puts an arrow in your quiver.
I'd like to say, if we pull in too many directions, we'll never get anywhere.
I am prepared to be outvoted as well! But for now, let's try the big knife path.
 
waynorth said:
The Queen teardrop, an older traditional pattern, not done by any cutleries that I know of except Queen, in more modern times. Yes, it's the Harness Jack without the Harness(punch):D
At 1/16" over 3 3/4" is is a handful of knife. It is made with halfstops.
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YES YES YES! Even better as Barehead:D

I do favour a bigger knife this year too, check Queen Cutlery's English Jack for instance, it's a Big 'un but a credible user too:thumbup:
 
I think willgoy is talking about the second knife from the right. It is indeed a big knife, at 4 1/2" long!
I like it, and even more, I like the double end, Swell Center on the far right,
which is 3 7/8" long!
Both good candidates, IMO.
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I would have a hard time arguing about the double ended swell center.
Without the worm grooves though. Not to sound picky, but I think those ruin an otherwise great looking knife.

Thats almost the perfect size IMHO for an edc knife. Matter of fact, I've been eyeing that pattern for a few days now, and would have pulled the trigger if it didn't have the worm grooves.
 
Here's one without the worms, but a bit more blade! Same handle pattern!!
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How's that for a quick response??:D
 
waynorth said:
A 4" knife may be too big for EDC, for some people, Robert, but I think that misses the point. We have done 3 1/4", and 3 3/8" knives. And we'll probably do them again.
This year, let's listen to the big knife people.

SNIP of info from WAYNORTH

I am prepared to be outvoted as well! But for now, let's try the big knife path.
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Sounds good to me. I like big knives as well, (OK... I like just about all traditional looking knives!) and different knives carry differently.

For instance, I have an old large two bladed CASE jack that is about 4" long that carries MUCH better than my Stockmans because it has a gentle curve to the handle like a Copperlock pattern. It carries great. Better than my much smaller Queen Gunstock which seems to be all sharp corners.

I have found that the curvy case of a sow belly makes carrying larger knives in my pockets easy, too. Straight handles are just difficult for me once they get to a certain size.

But if you want to go larger, why not go to a large pocket/mini belt knife? Maybe a 4 1/2" knife (I mean really make a statement, but still be usable) that you could put in a small belt pouch or sheath (not included). I haven't seen much chiming in here, but if you get that big you won't want that in your pocket, anyway.

And while they are unpopular with some, if this winds up being a "jeans" knife of some size, a lanyard would be nice for getting the knife out of a belt pouch. Take a look at the Queen "Mountain Man" and you can see the lanyard hole doesn't take anything away from the knife. That particular model is listed as 4 5/8" long when closed, and one additional blade might just get it to the size you are talking about.

Like you, I am ready to be outvoted. But I am ready to get moving and I am excited with a lot of the ideas folks have come up with. I am hoping though that the ideas of the lesser seen traditional blade profiles don't get lost.

Robert
 
waynorth said:
Here's one without the worms, but a bit more blade! Same handle pattern!!
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How's that for a quick response??:D
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I like the Teardrop Jack (secondary pen or clip blade with swedge). Don't care for the wormgrove, but jigged S&M Redbone is second to none!

Love the center swell, Charlie. African Blackwood would make it distinctive. Is this a Bullhead? What is the length? For me 3.5" is a large knife. I've gone as large as 3.75". For that Bullhead, I might be willing to stretch that if it weren't too large to carry in Dockers-style pants I normally wear.
 
willgoy said:
YES YES YES! Even better as Barehead
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Can you explain why you like the barehead version? I personally prefer the bolster if for no other reason than protecting the handle material.

That teardrop pattern is beautiful.
 
rbmcmjr said:
Can you explain why you like the barehead version? I personally prefer the bolster if for no other reason than protecting the handle material.

That teardrop pattern is beautiful.
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I would have to agree on these points.
 
As far as the English Jack that was referred to a few posts ago, Queen has made a few different styles ALL of them are large at 4 1/2" closed.
Here is the 1 Charlie was talking about with a long sheepsfoot master.
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With 2 large blades in the File & Wire series.
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And this knife with Clip master, they have also produced it with a Spear master.
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I'm not pushing this pattern, just posting the pics. I kinda like the swell center pattern myself.

Dave
 
rbmcmjr said:
Can you explain why you like the barehead version? I personally prefer the bolster if for no other reason than protecting the handle material.

That teardrop pattern is beautiful.
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I'll chime in here and add my VOTE for the bolster!!!:D;) I have an old Empire Tear drop Easy opener swedged Spear and pen blade:D:eek: w.bolster that is SAWWWWWEEETTTT!!!! But I'm afraid to carry it as it is WELL lets just say I can't stand the thought of loosing it:confused:;)
 
Hey stroker! Let's see what an old Teardrop should look like!!
 
Now we're back on my page. English jack is fine, spear or clip point main and a nice pen blade for a secondary.
 
I like the 3 3/4" size of the Teardrop and the Swell Center
3 3/4" is big enough for it to be a large knife and small enough to be pocketable.
The swell center might be easier on the the pocket
I would prefer a big blade / small blade combo.

The English Jack it large at 4 1/2" because it becomes difficult to carry in a pocket
Once we are at 4 1/2": we could look at a 2 bladed Mountain Man, or a Cotton Sampler pattern 4 1/4" (which is a swayback) with two different blades

I am enjoying the focus on the S&M Teardrop or the Swell Center.
 
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