2012 Traditional Forum Knife - let's begin discussion.

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I will be happy to go with what ever the general consensus is for design. I only have two but i find the 2011 forum knife to be much higher quality then the 2010 knife.
My only suggestion is that I would love to see some real rams horn scales for 2012.
 
Would anyone happen to have pictures of all of knives from the previous years?
 
FLymon said:
If it were kept to a single spring they would have to be pretty thin.
If two springs, we could call it the "Moose Canoe"

Definitely Clip and Spear/Spey though. No full size Wharncliffe PLEASE.
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Ca-Moose :)
 
What about a Saddlehorn pattern (R. Bose)
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or a Swayback pattern (R. Bose)
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I would strongly advocate GEC, for they have some real interesting patterns, and many to choose from. They did accomodate us, and produced us a seamless product. My cap lifter is non functional FTR but I never voted for that dumafletch on our forum knife anyways, I wanted a harness Jack!. :p However, just to make things fun, how about a BF knife maker making a Sod buster with stag? Maybe we could commission someone in house? Ferris? Ferris Bueler? :-) I bet in order to keep costs reasonable, something like a buster could be simple enough for a production run? I dunno, but that sounds cool to me, and keeping it in house sounds even better. I guess we would have to hear from the craftsmen.
 
cj65 said:
I would strongly advocate GEC, for they have some real interesting patterns, and many to choose from. They did accomodate us, and produced us a seamless product. My cap lifter is non functional FTR but I never voted for that dumafletch on our forum knife anyways, I wanted a harness Jack!. :p However, just to make things fun, how about a BF knife maker making a Sod buster with stag? Maybe we could commission someone in house? Ferris? Ferris Bueler? :-) I bet in order to keep costs reasonable, something like a buster could be simple enough for a production run? I dunno, but that sounds cool to me, and keeping it in house sounds even better. I guess we would have to hear from the craftsmen.
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I'd be keen on stag ONLY if it were nice stag...a good lot production makers are using now I find intensely boring and unattractive (compared to the popcorned stag of old). But a nicely fashioned sodbuster might work a treat as a forum knife if other more interesting patterns could not be agreed upon.
 
A lot of nice patterns have been mentioned but many of those patterns are common production patterns. I'm with Campbell and would like to see a forum knife that is not a pattern that is otherwise readily available. The 2011 forum knife was something new and I think it was good for GEC as well as collectors. I'd like to see the 2012 forum knife also broaden the scope of modern production knifemaking.

cnas122 said:
I think that the key to these forum knives is that we do a pattern that they don't currently make. The fun is developing our blade configuration, etc. That's something to keep in mind
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supratentorial said:
A lot of nice patterns have been mentioned but many of those patterns are common production patterns. I'm with Campbell and would like to see a forum knife that is not a pattern that is otherwise readily available. The 2011 forum knife was something new and I think it was good for GEC as well as collectors. I'd like to see the 2012 forum knife also broaden the scope of modern production knifemaking.
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I agree, so I'll mention it just one more time. Eureka Jack! These aren't my pics or knife, but if we could get a company to bring a production version back it would be pretty sweet. A short wharncliffe secondary blade would be icing on the cake.
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I'd like to see some ebony scales again as well. They have the advantage of looking both hard working and classy at the same
time, especially when paired with NS liners and pins.
 
supratentorial said:
A lot of nice patterns have been mentioned but many of those patterns are common production patterns. I'm with Campbell and would like to see a forum knife that is not a pattern that is otherwise readily available. The 2011 forum knife was something new and I think it was good for GEC as well as collectors. I'd like to see the 2012 forum knife also broaden the scope of modern production knifemaking.
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I like this idea... something unique or a twist on an older, out of production pattern would be cool.
 
dannyp said:
I agree, so I'll mention it just one more time. Eureka Jack! These aren't my pics or knife, but if we could get a company to bring a production version back it would be pretty sweet. A short wharncliffe secondary blade would be icing on the cake.
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I'd like to see some ebony scales again as well. They have the advantage of looking both hard working and classy at the same
time, especially when paired with NS liners and pins.
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Just curious, what makes it a eureka jack?? Handle shape?
 
supratentorial said:
A lot of nice patterns have been mentioned but many of those patterns are common production patterns. I'm with Campbell and would like to see a forum knife that is not a pattern that is otherwise readily available. The 2011 forum knife was something new and I think it was good for GEC as well as collectors. I'd like to see the 2012 forum knife also broaden the scope of modern production knifemaking.
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timcsaw said:
I like this idea... something unique or a twist on an older, out of production pattern would be cool.
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Add me to this list.
Anyway, this has three possible interpretations.
One way is, choose a traditional pattern that the producer (GEC?) doesn't make. For example, GEC doesn't have a Canoe or Peanut in their lineup.
Second way is, choose a pattern that's uncommon in the whole knife production. For example, the Congress Jack that Nate showed us.
Third way is, make up a pattern of our own (modifying some pre-existent pattern).
Personally, the idea of resurrecting an old uncommon pattern appeals to me, as well as taking a common pattern and changing it a bit, although this last possibility needs more "work". As a sidenote to this, when I suggested a wharncliffe as secondary blade in the Canoe, I might as well have said sheepsfoot, since I meant it in the general sense of "smaller (secondary) straight blade".

Fausto
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It's an interesting idea having unique patterns or bringing one back from obscurity (Equal End Anglo-Saxon anybody?) but it will make the costs outlandish UNLESS the manufacturer is tooling up for a run anyway. GEC managed to make this year's knife because they saw viability in the pattern by having the forum Knife, SFO and its own 85 pattern-couldn't be done otherwise. GEC have introduced an impressive array of patterns and remember, they've only been at it since 06, 2006 that is! They continue to release new knives all the time in numerous scales, just contrast that to Queen, CS, or even CASE who despite being bigger just go with this vault trick anyway. If we want an unusual pattern then GEC are really the only likely candidates, CASE won't do small runs, Buck make a decent working knife but nothing fancy or unusual. GEC also delivered the knife in record time, record numbers too. Some people don't care for the bottle opener on the 11 knife but I haven't heard of any serious quality issues-yet. This was NOT the case with previous Forum Knives .

Just a note on Stag.I'd be cautious, so so Stag abounds and is vastly inferior to good bone,wood or micarta. The 09 Forum Knife was lucky to benefit from having a stock of high grade Stag being donated, a fortunate and rare situation.
 
Carbon steel is a must. I`d prefer no EO. What I`d like to see is pinched silver bolsters, jigged or smooth bone (buffalo, or natural), symmetrical shape (cigar), 2 or 3 blades, wharncliffe as a main, drop point as a second and maybe a smaller utility blade. Not bigger than 4" closed.
 
willgoy said:
It's an interesting idea having unique patterns or bringing one back from obscurity (Equal End Anglo-Saxon anybody?) but it will make the costs outlandish UNLESS the manufacturer is tooling up for a run anyway. GEC managed to make this year's knife because they saw viability in the pattern by having the forum Knife, SFO and its own 85 pattern-couldn't be done otherwise. GEC have introduced an impressive array of patterns and remember, they've only been at it since 06, 2006 that is! They continue to release new knives all the time in numerous scales, just contrast that to Queen, CS, or even CASE who despite being bigger just go with this vault trick anyway. If we want an unusual pattern then GEC are really the only likely candidates, CASE won't do small runs, Buck make a decent working knife but nothing fancy or unusual. GEC also delivered the knife in record time, record numbers too. Some people don't care for the bottle opener on the 11 knife but I haven't heard of any serious quality issues-yet. This was NOT the case with previous Forum Knives .

Just a note on Stag.I'd be cautious, so so Stag abounds and is vastly inferior to good bone,wood or micarta. The 09 Forum Knife was lucky to benefit from having a stock of high grade Stag being donated, a fortunate and rare situation.
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I know cost could be an issue, but I really have no idea of how difficult it would be for GEC (or any other producer) to adapt their tools or get new ones. Maybe, if they see some "future" for the pattern, they might consider introducing it in their production (as for the 2011 knife) and that could make things easier. Still, modifying a pattern could be done (in certain cases) without huge changes, just a "jigsaw" work. For example, one of the first ideas that crossed my mind was taking their #56 dogleg and changing them by substituting the pen secondary with a wharncliffe (the one GEC has on their #25 jack). Of course, depending on where we're heading, this kind of adjustment might be impossible, and require some new tooling anyways (like for the main blade of the Congress Jack).
I guess we should also choose the committee too :)

Fausto
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