2014 Forum Knife

CUTS LIKE A KRIS said:
To be polite toward Mr. Lloyd, and to fill a gap in Traditional Bladeforums knife of the year I suggest a smaller pattern in a Peanut/Pemberton/pen shape, one belly one straight blade, or even better for me, one punch blade on a small knife.

But a peanut/Pemberton Bladeforums knife would be great, and with under $100 sought we could maximize options with what is chosen. Ultimately I would love to see a wharncliffe peanut/pen with punch, but realistically a clip and coping peanut in stag and maybe stainless would be great!

Ultimately I'm sure I will like the direction we will take and look forward to the upcoming selection process!!
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^^^ What he said ^^^
 
Lots of good ideas here. I would love to have a teardrop jack in stag with either the aforementioned zulu spear or a sheepsfoot main, either a pen or coping secondary (one straight blade and one with some belly) in maybe 01... D2 would also be cool. Really though, lots of good ideas here and I'm sure whatever is chosen will be awesome. Again, just a huge round of thank yous to everyone involved.
 
Some of you guys crack me up ya want a knife at around $100 but you describe a $250 SFO knife in most cases. With having a problem getting 150-250 people to to contractors to buy the knife sight unseen and put out that much cash 8-12 months in advance without seeing any real hard progress till 4 or more months is darn near impossible, but it can be done, we've done it before.

I still think this thread should be split into separate threads... but that's just my world logic. ;)

What we need to accomplish some things before. anything goes forward...

1) What kind of knife do we want for a 2014 and who gonna make it, what pattern, material etc... to be used most importantly, a reasonably accurate price so that people can choose right then and there if the want

2) how much $ you need to get started + rates for shipping and materials, it ain't free, how about the time donated not just running polls and threads, (that can drive you insane by itself) but the keeping up to speed on all the different threads poll resulting in a huge database that for most just convoluted the entire concept.

It takes a special breed to undertake a form knife, a bed of which I'm proud to have called friend over three many years and many projects, this is one of the most enjoyable parts of this forum, the building of the Annual BFC Traditional Forum's knife.

I still wanna maintain our original mission statement, to make a knife that was unique/different enough that they were not readily available to the gen pop right away. It has to be a limited run with personal touches that made it uniquely ours, the bladesforums stamp allowing us to date our future forays into club knives. I have faith, well get a knife, "...Yes Virginia, there may still be a 2014 Traditional Forums Knife waiting in the wings some where.

It's like a little bird in a nest, ya mess around with it to much, it'll die, ya leave it alone, if ya get too many people involved it'll get all bloated, bogged down and unable to move forward , let the pirates that be decided, first of all will they back a knife for us this year, will Kevin work with Team Traditional to hammer out the details and start soliciting funds and commitments for the project, (always chasing down people who owe you for start up capital)...

If Ya leave it open ended you'll get all the window looker and tire kickers. None of which will buy a knife at that price point.

Basically
Find out if it can be madeo
Who and how it's gonna be designed
What the particulars are, bone scale, Micarta, nickel silver bolsters and decide who's gonna do it
The hard part how do we do the money, gec likes money up front they as well as most manufacturers require minimum substantial orders to move ahead, I personally still think that a small fixed blade in the traditional style would be a great option, it would surely cut cost in material and manufacturing.

Heed my words and break this thread into a if "I could have any production knife made by anyone for a $130.00 shipped" fantasy thread, and how do we go about making a forum club knife, how do we insure we update the incoming funds and individuals that the knives have been paid in full for are marked so on the invoice it reflects it and gets shipped first.

This is my two cents for now, so again I'll sit back and read, (I read this entire thread completely again and I really believe that this melting pot of concerns will only get more homogenized as this thread grows and a lot of good advice and info will get lost or disregarded as Tom Foolery and actually have a negative impact on the end result of this year's attempt.

Back to the sideline to read and ponder
the responses found here after.

Keep the faith folks, I believe that if we all wish hard enough at the right moment it will get done, either that or we'll crack all the mirrors at Victoria's Secret changing room, (I told you a lingerie and knife show together at the same time wouldn't work out although it did make emergency removal of silken satin skimpy clothing :rolleyes: :).

Keep the faith, and remember this year's knife should be a KISS knife as simple as possible but always favoring quality first, looks secondary, cost third.

I'm outta this thread for a while, I'll be reading but until an official post/thread is started then I'll be back for serious discussion folks. Have a heck of a Sunday and start of your day right, tell someone you love 'em and post them on the head, (not to self, this works well with dog, not so well with wife).
 
T. Erdelyi said:
Some of you guys crack me up ya want a knife at around $100 but you describe a $250 SFO knife in most cases. With having a problem getting 150-250 people to to contractors to buy the knife sight unseen and put out that much cash 8-12 months in advance without seeing any real hard progress till 4 or more months is darn near impossible, but it can be done, we've done it before.

I still think this thread should be split into separate threads... but that's just my world logic. ;)

What we need to accomplish some things before. anything goes forward...

1) What kind of knife do we want for a 2014 and who gonna make it, what pattern, material etc... to be used most importantly, a reasonably accurate price so that people can choose right then and there if the want

2) how much $ you need to get started + rates for shipping and materials, it ain't free, how about the time donated not just running polls and threads, (that can drive you insane by itself) but the keeping up to speed on all the different threads poll resulting in a huge database that for most just convoluted the entire concept.

It takes a special breed to undertake a form knife, a bed of which I'm proud to have called friend over three many years and many projects, this is one of the most enjoyable parts of this forum, the building of the Annual BFC Traditional Forum's knife.

I still wanna maintain our original mission statement, to make a knife that was unique/different enough that they were not readily available to the gen pop right away. It has to be a limited run with personal touches that made it uniquely ours, the bladesforums stamp allowing us to date our future forays into club knives. I have faith, well get a knife, "...Yes Virginia, there may still be a 2014 Traditional Forums Knife waiting in the wings some where.

It's like a little bird in a nest, ya mess around with it to much, it'll die, ya leave it alone, if ya get too many people involved it'll get all bloated, bogged down and unable to move forward , let the pirates that be decided, first of all will they back a knife for us this year, will Kevin work with Team Traditional to hammer out the details and start soliciting funds and commitments for the project, (always chasing down people who owe you for start up capital)...

If Ya leave it open ended you'll get all the window looker and tire kickers. None of which will buy a knife at that price point.

Basically
Find out if it can be madeo
Who and how it's gonna be designed
What the particulars are, bone scale, Micarta, nickel silver bolsters and decide who's gonna do it
The hard part how do we do the money, gec likes money up front they as well as most manufacturers require minimum substantial orders to move ahead, I personally still think that a small fixed blade in the traditional style would be a great option, it would surely cut cost in material and manufacturing.

Heed my words and break this thread into a if "I could have any production knife made by anyone for a $130.00 shipped" fantasy thread, and how do we go about making a forum club knife, how do we insure we update the incoming funds and individuals that the knives have been paid in full for are marked so on the invoice it reflects it and gets shipped first.

This is my two cents for now, so again I'll sit back and read, (I read this entire thread completely again and I really believe that this melting pot of concerns will only get more homogenized as this thread grows and a lot of good advice and info will get lost or disregarded as Tom Foolery and actually have a negative impact on the end result of this year's attempt.

Back to the sideline to read and ponder
the responses found here after.

Keep the faith folks, I believe that if we all wish hard enough at the right moment it will get done, either that or we'll crack all the mirrors at Victoria's Secret changing room, (I told you a lingerie and knife show together at the same time wouldn't work out although it did make emergency removal of silken satin skimpy clothing :rolleyes: :).

Keep the faith, and remember this year's knife should be a KISS knife as simple as possible but always favoring quality first, looks secondary, cost third.

I'm outta this thread for a while, I'll be reading but until an official post/thread is started then I'll be back for serious discussion folks. Have a heck of a Sunday and start of your day right, tell someone you love 'em and post them on the head, (not to self, this works well with dog, not so well with wife).
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I'm not sure if you're aware, Charlie 'Waynorth' Campagna has agreed to manage the project to create a sub $100 knife. What's more, John Lloyd has graciously offered to provide Stag for free.

The ball is rolling.
 
First, thanks to Charlie and to everyone else who will contribute to this year's project. This is really good news.

Now, as for suggestions on the knife (it's fair game now... ;))

I agree with Ted that the BF knife should be something unique and new; last year's knife is a good example of taking an existing frame and coming out with a new and different pattern. I hope we'll go on the same path this year.

I think that a single bladed knife would be a great idea, especially around 3,5" (it would also help keeping the price down). My vote goes for a single bladed GEC #66 or #68, but no matter the maker and frame, that's my main suggestion.

Fausto
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might as well pipe up with my druthers: to have something based on an existing pattern but still unique, and not too complex so it stays cheaper, how about a GEC 73 with the long-pull swedge-on-the-clip blade from the 72, maybe something special about the bolsters, and instead of "unXld" on the shield have it say "20BF14"
i would also like a single or double-bladed 81, but that would be more expensive to produce.
Need to find pics of all the prior forum knives to see what patterns have already been covered . . . .
 
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The ball is rolling. All is right with my world, the gurus who do what they do so well will do the hoo doo they do well. Gimme for savin' nickels and dimes for this year's knife.

Now I'm excited and can do the happy dance, yeah... :) :D I've offered every year so powers that be if there's anything I can do for you this year let me know, phone calls, research, polls, keep track of current statistics or do like I do every year and participate in the process and in participating sometimes contribute.

Thanks again Charlie and John..'. Please keep me(us) up to date as I'm sure you will, looking forward to my addition for 2014, if I include my 2005 Schrade "Uncle Henry's Lost Souls".

This brings my BFC forum knife collection up to 9, eight Traditional and one Schrade modern canoe which became the beginning of the end of the USA made Schrades, the signaling of the end of an era, the Grest American Cutlery engine.

Woo woo, I think I can I think I can. :)
 
Don't mind me...Just waiting for Charlie to ask who is in officially with money to prove it. Oh? we haven't gotten that far yet? K, I'll just be hitting the refresh button....don't mind me :D
 
I hope one of the suggestions that are chosen is a barlow but whatever is chosen I will be in for at least 2 up front. Ideally (for me) I would love to see a TC SFO Barlow "single blade" in stag with a BF shield!
 
I have always liked sodbuster, and they are tooled already by makers and single blade by design.
 
I think something along the lines of a Schrade 93OT on a GEC 66 frame would look awesome. Really thin muskrat clip and a sheepsfoots secondary.

I really like what they did with the 2013 where the backspring extended into the unused portion of the secondary blade well. Not sure of the proper name but I think it really gives it that extra touch of class.
 
i'm in too please.
can't wait to see what patterns will be there to choose from.
cough...GEC #72 like...cough cough...trapper... :D
 
I think folks need to stop thinking of the specific design or pattern and think of the upcoming Traditional Forum knife as a community knife and one that you don't necessarily have to use. I was certainly guilty of this with regard to the 2013 forum knife. Think of it as buying a couple rounds of drinks for friends or taking a couple 5ths of liquor to a party..... If you are part of the community here, you should try to purchase this knife and help make it a success.
 
I was directed to this thread for suggestions, so here goes:

We've seen all the usual patterns like jacks, barlows, trappers and I think even a moose. So why not try something really different? I was thinking something along the lines of a single bladed knife, like a Lanny's Clip or Zulu Spear. Of course they won't be the same quality as, say, the Case/Bose versions since they're only going to be $100, but it's worth a shot! And if it absolutely needs to have two blades, why not something like a Coffin jack or a TL-29? We could even propose a scout. Just food for thought. :)

As to the maker, ideally it would be GEC but Queen or S&M would be awesome too. 1095 steel of course. :)
 
A Charlie barlow in stag with a punch secondary. :D Has there ever been a Barlow harness jack?

Regards

Robin
 
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