2015 Forum Knife - It's Never Too Early To Think About the Next Blade Forum Knife

For sure, buddy, carry on. It just seemed like not everyone had the same expectations of this thread. I'm a little unclear myself.
 
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I have to ask a question: Is there even a point to these 37 pages of ideas and debate? Like, does it even have the slightest impact on the design? Even if we had 100% consensus would it even matter?

From what I recall about last year's process: Charlie contacted a few manufacturers and had them submit their ideas of what a forum knife could look like. Was our input even passed along beforehand? I'm totally fine with that either way, by the way.

I just think it's funny that we're all offering our wish list when it's possible it won't be considered by the designers at all.

One of the organizers can please correct me if I'm wrong here...

That might have been how it was done last year. I'm not sure as I took a hiatus from BF. Ironically I actually started the discussion about it last year as it seemed like it wasn't going to happen for 2014. Several of the organizers lamented the difficulties with previous years' forum knives and that, perhaps is why the 2014 one was designed the way it was.

However, in previous years a thread like this was started where everyone threw around ideas. Then an organizer picked through the thread for top suggestions and started a series of new threads with actual polls for voting on pattern, then blades, covers, shields, etc.

Finally a design was made based on these votes and given to various manufacturers to bid on. Not all specifications were met exactly (e.g. the covers on the 2013 were not exactly the same material we voted on) but were very close.
 
Thanks for all the enthusiasm my friends!

Thanks Liam for offering your services!!

And most of all, Barry deserves our thanks for taking on what I consider the hardest part! Keeping the records, and shipping out the knives.

I have gotten a raft of offers of assistance, emails and PMs. I am grateful to all of you, that you have offered to cover our backs.

It will take a while to get some information from the cutleries.

There is no hurry right now, so I will start another thread when we get closer to choosing time. In the meantime, the discussion here is enjoyable, and gives me some inspiration. As we did last year, I will try to extract some ideas from your comments, fold neatly with knives any manufacturers are willing to offer, put the ideas into a budget (less than $100) baking pan, and hope it all rises to the top!!!

It's kind of exciting! Not knowing what we are going to cook up!!
I will remember this moment . . . . .

Here is Charlies post back in January. Post #342 back on Page 18. This thread will be used as inspiration. :)
 
Excellent, that clarifies things a bit. I will be curious to see how much Charlie & co are inspired by our inspirations.
 
Just don't want anybody to get too disappointed if the punch gun lifter isn't heeded...

:)

Though I would be interested to know, if an organizer could confirm, if any of our ideas here are passed along to a manufacturer beforehand. Or is this all an exercise in

Ive participated in 3 forum knife choices and yes in every case members had input that resulted in a knife that more or less, was chosen by majority. Bottom line though, you wont get everything you ask for and you might be disappointed so you either buy a knife and participate or continue to
 
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Ive participated in 3 forum knife choices and yes in every case members had input that resulted in a knife that more or less, was chosen by majority. Bottom line though, you wont get everything you ask for and you might be disappointed so you either buy a knife and participate or continue to

Right and I wasn't talking about the final vote process last year, but rather if our input was passed along to the manufacturers beforehand as they sketched the designs. It sounds like some our favorite ideas may end up in the design this year. That would be cool and we'll just have to see. I'm happy either way, like I've said.

I find myself gravitating towards small fixed blades so I'll throw that out there too. :D
 
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Just an fyi guys that little emoticon you guys have both used will get you an infraction in the traditional forum. I believe is says by it to be used in Whine and Cheese only. :)
 
Really? I was already picturing my punch gun lifter in my pocket. That is disappointing.

:D

Here is Charlies post back in January. Post #342 back on Page 18. This thread will be used as inspiration. :)

Whaler! Whaler! :D

Excellent, that clarifies things a bit. I will be curious to see how much Charlie & co are inspired by our inspirations.

Team Charlie I think you'll find! :D :thumbup:

Just an fyi guys that little emoticon you guys have both used will get you an infraction in the traditional forum. I believe is says by it to be used in Whine and Cheese only. :)

:thumbup:

The "roll the dice" emoticon?

LOL! Not too late to go back and edit those posts fellers ;)
 
Anywaaaayyyy...... back on topic. There's no harm in throwing around wants & desires. We had the Queen Moose in 2010 (great knife, BTW - Thanks again Jake!!) that was a swell center pattern. A coffin would be cool. Actually, something along the lines of the GEC Weaver blade shape - which is kind of a cross between a pruner & a sheepsfoot - would be cool too. That one would be fun as a single blade, or with a punch/caplifter. Maybe on the #79 sleeveboard frame?? Can't quite picture that in my head; have to do a sketch...

The problem we get into with all this fun is the manufacturing cost. For a forum knife, we're much better off commissioning a pattern that's already been produced. The PunchGunLifter (way) above, even if it was a regular production model, would be a minimum $120 - $140 (and I'd be happy to pay that...), but it seems like the goal was to keep it under $100 so more of us could participate. I think the key to getting something new and unique for a forum knife will be from combining parts & components of existing patterns, rather than creating something new. I wonder how the 77 came about last year, since it was a new pattern? I bet Charlie had a lot of influence on that decision.... Maybe he can do it again?? Hopeful, but doubtful....
 
I have to disagree.
I don´t think that the Gunstock pattern will be that expensive. It is a pattern that was in production - and they can do it again - as seen on the #66 Serpentine Series last year. It won´t cost a spaceship.
That being said, we should wait and see and let the Gunstock pattern into the pool-sequence.

About the Forum Knives of former years:
- 2011: #85 EO Bullet End Jack w/ caplifter
- 2012: #74 Wharncliffe Trapper - was a new pattern, now in production on GEC
- 2013: #13 unfortunatelly not in production, but nevertheless a great knife. I´m still waiting to see them in regular production
- 2014: #77 is invented as a bigger version of the "Everybody's Darling" #15
- 2015: ?????? whatever it will be, it will be a great knife !
 
I really like the gunstock idea, ad long as it's a decent size. Something like Bigfattyt's lovely custom, round about in that ballpark. :thumbup:
 
The 2014 was a new frame, single blade, donated stag, ~$75. Assuming that it won't be stag and that the order quantity will be similar (it'll likely be larger, if possible) I'm guessing more like $100-$110. That's super reasonable, compared to other GEC SFOs.

Then again, I have no idea. At $125, it'd have to be real nice.

I based that estimation off 2013 which if I recall correctly was $130? That was a new pattern, two blades, and inexpensive scale material. Guess we will see.

My point is all these features add up to cost at some point. We are treading a razor thin line between wants and actually cost that would equate to numbers purchased. Last year was an exception due to Mr. lloyd being so gracious as to donate the stag. That kept the price lower on what would have been a $100+ knife otherwise.
 
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I have to disagree.
I don´t think that the Gunstock pattern will be that expensive. It is a pattern that was in production - and they can do it again - as seen on the #66 Serpentine Series last year. It won´t cost a spaceship.
That being said, we should wait and see and let the Gunstock pattern into the pool-sequence.

About the Forum Knives of former years:
- 2011: #85 EO Bullet End Jack w/ caplifter
- 2012: #74 Wharncliffe Trapper - was a new pattern, now in production on GEC
- 2013: #13 unfortunatelly not in production, but nevertheless a great knife. I´m still waiting to see them in regular production
- 2014: #77 is invented as a bigger version of the "Everybody's Darling" #15
- 2015: ?????? whatever it will be, it will be a great knife !

I personally am a fan of the 76 pattern and would not mind it (say with some nice peachseed jigging) but the size of it will knock many here out of participation. Just the way it goes with any pattern chosen. Should be exciting either way.
 
How about a Drop-point EO 25? The BF WLST so to speak. Perhaps in some nice saw-cut red bone? :D

Inspiration provided in the bottom position of this pic:
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It's going to be interesting to see how the majority goes this year. There's a lot of folks that want something peanut sized. Now, I have a peanut, for posterity's sake, but in general despise small knives. 3-1/2'' is about the smallest I'll carry, although I prefer something in the 4'' to 4-1/4'' range for EDC. The scale of the gunstock I posted earlier is based on 4-1/4'' closed; scaling it down under 3-3/4'' probably wouldn't work very well. And, with all the rage about the Charlows, it looks like the #15 size at around 3-1/2'' closed is pretty widely accepted, so we'll probably see options presented around that range. Anyway....

Here's a combo that might be kind of fun. It's a #79 frame, #56 Weaver blade and the PunchLifter; 3-3/4'' closed. I've never had a Weaver - the single blades seem pretty elusive, and the 3 blade variants are a bit too chunky. I think 2 useful tools would fit nicely:

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I'd be out on the weaver- I'd be glad to trade you mine, it has never gotten the pocket time it deserves. That slight hook to the blade made it a PITA for me to sharpen on a plain stone.
 
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