2018 BF Traditional Knife

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skblades said:
Here are a couple quick shots for reference. Granted these are both 110s, but you can see the difference between the hollow and full flat grind.

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Though the flat ground portion will only extend up to the bottom of the nail nick, not up to the top of the blade, correct?

There will be a flat (vertical) portion above the flat ground bevel (diagonal)?

These knives in the photo show a saber grind, albeit a high saber. A full flat grind extend to the top of the blade with no flats to speak of.


The knife below is full flat ground with a slight swedge.
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Will Power said:
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Though a nice knife, this is not a full flat grind. This is a flat saber grind.

I find these tend to crack apples, wedge in wood, feather curls can crack easier and other small annoyances that are alleviated by the omission of the flats.

This omission also can result in a blade that is thinner Behind the edge, which slices better.
 
NJBillK said:
These knives in the photo show a saber grind, albeit a high saber. A full flat grind extend to the top of the blade with no flats to speak of.
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That's what I thought I was seeing in the photo as well, but I wasn't sure because of the lighting.
 
meako said:
1.it gets mentioned and question is asked.
2.wishful thinking phase .very specific configurations are tabled.
3.will anyone do it?
3.5 long period of dark territory .
4.our hero arrives to save the day
4.5 long period of dark territory .
5.polling of choices regarding blades,steel,scales.
6.democratic final decision.
7.lots of whining and saying "im not getting one because i dont like it,too expensive,not what i specifically wanted.etc etc"
8.orders taken and money paid.
9.the winter of the wait begins.
10. Everyone else in the world takes delivery.
10.5.I take delivery of mine
11. "I missed out where do I get one?" phase begins.
12. Profieering vulture phase begins.

Did I miss anything?
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Amendment to section 3.5
3.6 Minor scuffling and fractiousness between porcheteers. Due to stress of dark territory.

Its a bit like a tsunami.
A massive wave engulfs the beach and slops up onto the porch.We may even hear a warning hooter from the authorities.
After it recedes we go out and see what is left on the highwater mark.
There will be debris and mess to clear up.
Some of us will have floated away on the tide.
I will be lashing myself to the frame in order to weather the storm and the sirenes song .
Hold Fast me lucky lads ! Fair winds and treasure await Ye.
 
Ramrodmb said:
Like the bottom one here! FFG
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Exactly!
The top blade is a Flat Saber Ground blade. This has flat ground bevels that extend to a point below the spine. From this point, there are parallel flats (one on each side of the blade) that connect the bevels to the spine. On the Buck above, this is where the bottom of the nail nick starts.

The bottom blade is what I am calling a FFG in which the full height of the blade is ground on a continuous flat bevel going from right behind the sharpened cutting edge bevel to spine width.

This is where we would like some further clarification. Thank you.
 
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NJBillK said:
Exactly!
The top blade is a Flat Saber Ground blade. This has flat ground bevels that extend to a point below the spine. From this point, there are parallel flats (one on each side of the blade) that connect the bevels to the spine. On the Buck above, this is where the bottom of the nail nick starts.

The bottom blade is what I am calling a FFG in which the full height of the blade is ground on a continuous flat bevel going from cutting edge to spine width.

This is where we would like some further clarification. Thank you.
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Got it. I'll put in the request for Monday, and let you know what I find.
 
Per my previous post, there is a bit more to that blade profile than just the FFG (although this is important). There is the deeper belly, the long pull, the spring configuration and the interesting history of that version of the pattern.
Camillus said:
On the topic of the 301, I went lookin for photos of any with a long pull and came across this interesting site.

http://woodslave.blogspot.com.au/2013/03/choosing-essential-pocket-knife-series.html?m=1

There is a nice looking Camillus made 301 (about halfway down the page) with a long pull.


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This version of the Buck 301 seems reasonably common, and was also made by Schrade. I like it more than the regular blade.[/QUOT
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Meako! Words of wisdom for certain. I’ve weathered many storms here and while the waters rececede and the debris and detritus wash out into open waters you’ll always find someone sittin’ on the porch ( lashed or not;) ). And if you wait around long enough even I eventually show up. ;)

This is one of those places where if you treat people like you want to be treated they usually do the same back to you. :)
 
NJBillK said:
Though a nice knife, this is not a full flat grind. This is a flat saber grind.

I find these tend to crack apples, wedge in wood, feather curls can crack easier and other small annoyances that are alleviated by the omission of the flats.

This omission also can result in a blade that is thinner Behind the edge, which slices better.
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Thanks. Yes I agree, not the best for tackling food prep etc but I included it as an example of a Buck Solitaire I like and as it has the same frame as a 301 I believe? It was sold to me as a second from the US but I really cannot find anything wrong with the construction, especially for the 22 USD I paid for it ;) I'd prefer non sabre myself but I will say that even Buck's 'modest' 420 is very nice working steel and very keen, their better stainless must be a treat:) I have a fixed Buck 5 Gen Skinner that's flat ground, incredibly thin and just a great all round compact outdoors knife, fishing, food prep, hunting if you do,firesticks- would never part with it:cool:
 
Woodrow F Call said:
That, with swedged blades, in red micarta, corn cob cob jigged bone, or maybe elk antler would be the bee's knees.
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I was also thinking red micarta on this style would be excellent! I do love a nice swedge but not a deal killer since I'm assuming there might be a significant extra cost involved.
 
I have to admit that I have not read the entire thread but I really DO LOVE the idea of a Buck knife as a Forum knife. Personally I would have suggested a model 501, but one of their slipjoints with stainless steel sounds really nice.
 
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