2018 BF Traditional Knife

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I knew everyone was going to say that. I knew where I posted it lol. What I didn't know was there was three modern forum knives. That's what we need another one of, a 4th. People just assume the forum knife has to be traditional since it's in this sub forum. So make a forum knife in the modern sub forum then. That's the point the community only wants a traditional. It's like that every year. I'd rather see the tradition die if modern knives don't get the chance to be a forum knife too.

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needler420 said:
I knew everyone was going to say that. I knew where I posted it lol. What I didn't know was there was three modern forum knives. That's what we need another one of, a 4th. People just assume the forum knife has to be traditional since it's in this sub forum. So make a forum knife in the modern sub forum then. That's the point the community only wants a traditional. It's like that every year.
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:confused: The forum knife for this subforum does have to be traditional, or it wouldn't be for this subforum. :D

No one is stopping anyone from making a modern BF knife, as far as I know, this just isn't the place to talk about it. :thumbsup:
 
needler420 said:
I knew everyone was going to say that. I knew where I posted it lol. What I didn't know was there was three modern forum knives. That's what we need another one of, a 4th. People just assume the forum knife has to be traditional since it's in this sub forum. So make a forum knife in the modern sub forum then. That's the point the community only wants a traditional. It's like that every year. I'd rather see the tradition die if modern knives don't get the chance to be a forum knife too.

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What do you think we should have as the traditional folders forum knife?
 
gaj999 said:
Actually, in that picture, you modified the Sheepsfoot. The spey is the one with the blunt tip. I'm up for replacing the spey with either a caplifter or a punch, but I really like the Sheepsfoot, it's my most used blade on a Stockman.
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I didn't notice. Thank you. I am accustomed to the Spey being opposite the main to afford for some additional length when dealing with a two spring/crinkled blade setup.

That being said, you get my point.
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NJBillK said:
I didn't notice. Thank you. I am accustomed to the Spey being opposite the main to afford for some additional length when dealing with a two spring/crinkled blade setup.

That being said, you get my point.
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I use all three of the blades on the stockman, I love havin’ 3 different blades at different degrees of sharpness.

I always keep the Spey blade razor sharp as the blade’s designed to be and for which the male critters were certainly appreciative of, kinda like a scalpel anyway. I use the Spey like a scalpel for personal minor surgical procedure like cuttin’ off a piece of torn skin.
 
needler420 said:
I knew everyone was going to say that. I knew where I posted it lol. What I didn't know was there was three modern forum knives. That's what we need another one of, a 4th. People just assume the forum knife has to be traditional since it's in this sub forum. So make a forum knife in the modern sub forum then. That's the point the community only wants a traditional. It's like that every year. I'd rather see the tradition die if modern knives don't get the chance to be a forum knife too.

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2016, Manly made the Patriot
2017, Manly made the Peak.

There have been modern forum knives, but you missed the boat. There may be more, they may not be.
The forum knives are a result of the forum folks bringing this to the company's attention.

Manly has said they would be interested in doing another. If you want, shoot a message to @Lyubomir Trayanov and see if You can get the ball rolling...
 
gaj999 said:
This is a big negative for me. I love the thin blades normally found on the secondaries of most Stockman patterns. The thin sheepsfoot blade is what makes the GEC Churchill so good. I'm sure it reduces warrantee costs but since I use my knives to cut with and not to open paint cans and such, it's a waste.
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I tend to prefer thin grinds also.

I should point out that I'm not making an argument for or against the Buck 301. I was just trying to answer questions from folks who are unfamiliar with the knife.

It's an open forum and there is a diverse group of folks who are posting. Some are very familiar with the Buck 301, GEC, and other traditional knives. Some are less familiar but their involvement is welcome too. It's always good to see more folks interested in traditional knives. My photos and descriptions were intended to help others to decide for themselves. I'm not arguing for or against it.

I like Buck and GEC. I enjoy knives from both companies. But the two companies make knives with very different manufacturing and construction. It is helpful to understand those differences.
 
gaj999 said:
This is a big negative for me. I love the thin blades normally found on the secondaries of most Stockman patterns. The thin sheepsfoot blade is what makes the GEC Churchill so good. I'm sure it reduces warrantee costs but since I use my knives to cut with and not to open paint cans and such, it's a waste.
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I am a fan of thin blades as well. I think a full flat grind would give very slicey blades all around and why a lot are hoping that's a possibility.
 
needler420 said:
I knew everyone was going to say that. I knew where I posted it lol. What I didn't know was there was three modern forum knives. That's what we need another one of, a 4th. People just assume the forum knife has to be traditional since it's in this sub forum. So make a forum knife in the modern sub forum then. That's the point the community only wants a traditional. It's like that every year. I'd rather see the tradition die if modern knives don't get the chance to be a forum knife too.
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Regarding the bolded, that's exactly the point. The Bladeforums Traditional knife, at least the one that's sponsored, for lack of a better word, by this subforum, is called that not because it's a tradition, but because it's sponsored by the Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades subform. This specific branch of Bladeforums, this specific community, only wants a traditional knife because that's the focus of this subforum.

Earlier in this thread, I believe it was mentioned that the Buck subforum was commissioning a special Buck knife of their own. There's no reason that the General or other subforum couldn't initiate the process to do a modern knife and start their own tradition, but the place to initiate that would be in those other forums; not here.

& I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn. I'm new here and don't post much but I hope the tradition of a Traditional forum knife continues regardless of who the manufacturer ends up being. :thumbsup:
 
supratentorial said:
I tend to prefer thin grinds


I should point out that I'm not making an argument for or against the Buck 301. I was just trying to answer questions from folks who are unfamiliar with the knife.

It's an open forum and there is a diverse group of folks who are posting. Some are very familiar with the Buck 301, GEC, and other traditional knives. Some are less familiar but their involvement is welcome too. It's always good to see more folks interested in traditional knives. My photos and descriptions were intended to help others to decide for themselves. I'm not arguing for or against it.

I like Buck and GEC. I enjoy knives from both companies. But the two companies make knives with very different manufacturing and construction. It is helpful to understand those differences.
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I agree 100% and TY BTW
 
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All this talk about pull strength could lead to a dead-end....:eek::D

Look, I've got a lot of GEC knives and given and sold others, many have had tough springs, which I like-to an extent:D 1 is almost too much for me. recently, GEC have tamed their spring strength but opinion is inevitably sharply divided. Many rage against weak snap and are disappointed, the Calf Roper and others came in for critique, but many others lauded ito_O It's totally subjective and that's why I'm a bit sceptical about this whole pull strength scale 2-10, it aint the Richter Scale:D

The Buck knife arrangement on its Stockman knives is different, some dislike the alleged 'wasted space' in there, do you have to keep looking at it?:D:p What you don't get is krinked (crooked ;)) blades in there or the strong likelihood of blade rub. You don't get blade cant (droop) either. The three thick construction on my Buck 303 is no wider than most CASE 2 springs and it has no soft cheap brass in there, none of my Buck knives have blade play, perhaps because of the absence of brass or the construction methods? The pull on them is not hard but the snap is loud enough and you don't need to push any blades back in place !
I think with flat grind it might mean a slimmer blade and rather tougher pull, but that's just a speculation.

Point is, everybody has their pull strength Nirvana and they often don't compare to other peoples' Buck is lighter, GEC heavier - usually;) at least in my hands, what about the next person's?o_O
 
Will Power said:
All this talk about pull strength could lead to a dead-end....:eek::D

Look, I've got a lot of GEC knives and given and sold others, many have had tough springs, which I like-to an extent:D 1 is almost too much for me. recently, GEC have tamed their spring strength but opinion is inevitably sharply divided. Many rage against weak snap and are disappointed, the Calf Roper and others came in for critique, but many others lauded ito_O It's totally subjective and that's why I'm a bit sceptical about this whole pull strength scale 2-10, it aint the Richter Scale:D

The Buck knife arrangement on its Stockman knives is different, some dislike the alleged 'wasted space' in there, do you have to keep looking at it?:D:p What you don't get is krinked (crooked ;)) blades in there or the strong likelihood of blade rub. You don't get blade cant (droop) either. The three thick construction on my Buck 303 is no wider than most CASE 2 springs and it has no soft cheap brass in there, none of my Buck knives have blade play, perhaps because of the absence of brass or the construction methods? The pull on them is not hard but the snap is loud enough and you don't need to push any blades back in place !
I think with flat grind it might mean a slimmer blade and rather tougher pull, but that's just a speculation.

Point is, everybody has their pull strength Nirvana and they often don't compare to other peoples' Buck is lighter, GEC heavier - usually;) at least in my hands, what about the next person's?o_O
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I never heard anyone say that weak pulls are a good thing. Are there actually people that feel this way? (like an non-negligible amount of people)
 
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