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2019 GEC 92 Eureka Jack

hornetguy said:
I don't know for a fact, but isn't GEC making larger runs now? That could account for the slower "sell-outs" of some model runs?
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It is significantly more complicated than the above inference you quoted...

First, the assumption is that the #97 and #44 are slow sellers or made in too large numbers. Both of these runs were "open orders"; which means GEC only made what dealers ordered. And the curious thing about dealers is that they like to have stock on hand. Your service to customers is providing knives; and although it is nice to sell out within a few days - that is not your only service. Thus, on "open orders" this dealer orders at least double what I think I can sell the first month. So, just because knives are still in stock has no correlation to an inadvertent over-production or slow moving product. The only #44 I have had in stock for months is the Autumn Gold; and that is because it was the variant that I decided to focus on and I sell a couple a week - and it was produced over a year ago. It didn't surprise anybody that the #29 wouldn't appeal to everyone as three blades are expensive and few people have a need for a punch - but I bought all I could and have between 10 and 15 in stock counting all variations (none of which are bloodwood or snakewood)

The #92's are coming in split shipments and they are consistent movers. I won't have any in 2 months; much less 2 years. I think I have 2 in stock right now and it is because they were my final split-ship of the OD's that arrived yesterday. There is no tortoise #92 that I have seen mentioned. Other than the aforementioned #92 and #29 - the vast majority of my stock of GEC knives made in the last year that are still in my stock - are single bladed knives. And, to be fair, they are still in stock for reasons other than their single blade.
 
hornetguy said:
I think there is some accuracy in your assessment.... although I would question your conclusion that most GEC collectors want a single blade knife. From the comments I have read in several different threads, it sounds as if more folks really like the two-blade, and even 3-blade stockman/whittler choices. Having one blade sort of limits them, where having multiple blades gives them the clean/dirty blade option, among other benefits.

I don't know for a fact, but isn't GEC making larger runs now? That could account for the slower "sell-outs" of some model runs?
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I try to study the production numbers on the GEC web-sight. I also study the NOS left overs on the dealer web-sights. I try to keep a close eye on Evil-bay. I can't wait for the new production numbers in January 2020. GEC making more #92s than #93s has really baffled me. Bill Howard might have made a smarter choice on two blades on the #92. It has been a while since the #92s were made. If he were to offer both like I wanted. The single blades always sell out first and selling the two blades would of been more difficult . I am kind of glad that I was forced to buy the #92 Eureka two bladed elderberry. I am glad Bill Howard change the new #92s from the old #92s. Left handed, that secondary blade is perfect for me. Sweating it out for my preorder camel bone #92. I do own some two and three blade GEC knives. I can open my GEC knives with ease. Yesterday , I received a CASEXX CCC 2019 Trapper-lock kick-start autumn bone with clip. No rattle or play - "Wonderful" my GEC knives will get less carry time. I never leave home with just one knife.
 
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knifeswapper said:
It is significantly more complicated than the above inference you quoted...

First, the assumption is that the #97 and #44 are slow sellers or made in too large numbers. Both of these runs were "open orders"; which means GEC only made what dealers ordered. And the curious thing about dealers is that they like to have stock on hand. Your service to customers is providing knives; and although it is nice to sell out within a few days - that is not your only service. Thus, on "open orders" this dealer orders at least double what I think I can sell the first month. So, just because knives are still in stock has no correlation to an inadvertent over-production or slow moving product. The only #44 I have had in stock for months is the Autumn Gold; and that is because it was the variant that I decided to focus on and I sell a couple a week - and it was produced over a year ago. It didn't surprise anybody that the #29 wouldn't appeal to everyone as three blades are expensive and few people have a need for a punch - but I bought all I could and have between 10 and 15 in stock counting all variations (none of which are bloodwood or snakewood)

The #92's are coming in split shipments and they are consistent movers. I won't have any in 2 months; much less 2 years. I think I have 2 in stock right now and it is because they were my final split-ship of the OD's that arrived yesterday. There is no tortoise #92 that I have seen mentioned. Other than the aforementioned #92 and #29 - the vast majority of my stock of GEC knives made in the last year that are still in my stock - are single bladed knives. And, to be fair, they are still in stock for reasons other than their single blade.
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Thanks for confirming what I had heard a few years ago that the dealers were asking for larger runs so they could actually have a few knives in stock. When I started collecting GEC's several years ago it was nice that the dealers had several very desirable patterns in stock to chose from, I don't particularly enjoy the mad scramble that occurs nowadays.
I doubt there will be any 92's available at dealers a month from now, it is one of GEC's best and most desirable patterns in my opinion.
 
knifeswapper said:
It is significantly more complicated than the above inference you quoted...
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It usually is....:D simple minds, and all that.... :oops:

That was pure speculation on my part. Thanks for the clarification. I will be the first to admit that I don't know how businesses try to "stock" their shelves. I'm just glad they (you) do. It's interesting to see how some models become "cult classics", and turn into the proverbial unicorn. Beer Scout, anyone?

again, thanks for the information....
 
Augie said:
Thanks for confirming what I had heard a few years ago that the dealers were asking for larger runs so they could actually have a few knives in stock. When I started collecting GEC's several years ago it was nice that the dealers had several very desirable patterns in stock to chose from, I don't particularly enjoy the mad scramble that occurs nowadays.
I doubt there will be any 92's available at dealers a month from now, it is one of GEC's best and most desirable patterns in my opinion.
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The turtle acrylics will be slow and the last to sell out. I say those turtle acrylics will be around at least a year from now. I wish GEC would sell beautiful rich colored acrylics , instead of acquired taste acrylic knives. I saw a rich butterscotch acrylic custom knife today on FB. I was floored ! OOOPS! The turtle shell acrylics will be on the #86 not the #92. That turtle shell acrylic #86 knife will be the last to sell out. I have a #86 oily creek bone on pre-order.
 
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I like my multi-blade knives to be smaller (3-5/8" or less). Once they get bigger, I like a single blade.
I ended up selling my #92. I didn't bond with last run's single blade, and I didn't bond with the two blade from this run either.
I guess the Eureka Jack just isn't my style. It just always feels backwards to me.
 
hornetguy said:
It usually is....:D simple minds, and all that.... :oops:

That was pure speculation on my part. Thanks for the clarification. I will be the first to admit that I don't know how businesses try to "stock" their shelves. I'm just glad they (you) do. It's interesting to see how some models become "cult classics", and turn into the proverbial unicorn. Beer Scout, anyone?

again, thanks for the information....
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It is interesting to see that once a pattern is no longer easily available, it becomes so desirable. I recall when I was first getting familiar with the game, there were beer scouts and crown lifters all over the place. I fooled myself into thinking that I could get one "anytime". All that procrastination led to me logging on one day and discovering that they were nowhere to be found. Scarcity can certainly drive up demand.
 
My sense is the world of people that are appreciating GEC products is so much larger than their production capability that they have no worries.

When I first learned about GEC a few years ago, my only experience with slip joints was Case knives and I was not impressed. GEc has been making knives for 12 years or so, and it is virtually impossible to find anything older than a year or two on a dealers website.

There are always a few stragglers, I bought two 14’s from the 2016 production run when I found GEC knives around 2017, and those are now impossible to find like most everything else.

Not every knife jumps up in value but all become quite hard to find within a few months, and almost all are little works of art.
 
Onearmbladenut said:
Because it is a two blade knife. Most GEC collectors want a 3.5" to 4" closed knife. I bought the #92 elderberry and I am waiting on the camel bone #92. I would be buying every one if they were in single blade. That goes for the #86 knife too. GEC made 400 each on the #29s and those are still around. GEC goofed on the snakewood/bloodwood quantities . GEC dealers are Stuck with #29s ! GEC made too many #97s. The #93s were the perfect knife. GEC should made more choices in 600 quantities. GEC is making more numbers in the #92 than the #93 run. I said Dealers will be stuck with some #92s for two years. And everybody laughed ! #92 Turtle shell acrylic knives , those will be slow sellers like the #66 turtle acrylic knives. Look at the 44s , OD micarta two blade knives all over the GEC web-sights. I know the #12 toothpick single blades were in low numbers and those did not fly. I think buyers want a little beefier single blade style knife. I want to see more GEC#23 , #42 , #43 , #47 , #63 ,#64 , #72 , #73 , #74 , #76 , #77 , #78 , #83 , #85 , #92 , #93 , and #99s in single blades. More knives in liner lock , lock back , and swing guards styles would be nice. I would really go fool for #85 no heal bolster single spear blade liner lock knives. I won't hold my breath. GEC needs to quit making these weird acrylic acquired taste knives. Go with some beautiful rich color acrylic choices.
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thank you for the feedback sir.
 
I got into GEC last year with a 78 American Jack. About a month later I picked up a crown lift as an after thought and now I am so happy that I did. What I have learned quickly isn't so much how long the knives are around it's the fact that they may not come around again for a long long time. I have an elderberry 92 and will be getting a stag for the simple reason that we won't see them again for a few years.

Oh yeah if you see one you like buy it because it probably won't be there when you come back.
 
I've always been curious about the purpose, if any, of the hump on the back of these types of patterns. Is it for the purpose of strengthening the spring? Better handhold?
 
wintermute said:
I've always been curious about the purpose, if any, of the hump on the back of these types of patterns. Is it for the purpose of strengthening the spring? Better handhold?
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I think it's just an aesthetic feature or 'styling' if you like. Can't really think it would strengthen the spring and it must be more difficult to make etc, but it looks grand, swell back:cool::thumbsup:
 
rbeggs said:
Very nice color, how is the pull? I'm hoping the action on the camel bone and stag is a little more responsive than on my elderberry it seems light and sluggish.
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Thank you. Initial impression is not hard pull(4-5). Good W&T, but slightly sluggish on the coping. I’ll see what ever changes when I clean and oil. Overall, I’m very happy.
 
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