#35 Beer and Sausage Bar Tool Knife

Jiki said:
It can also be narrowed down to the CK early reserve system which triggers this response.
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Just because that is usually the first indicator? Do you have an example of something going in seconds on reservations, but being a dog when it hit the market?

Quiet said:
The latter, I believe. Someone posted about speaking to Bill Howard at the unofficial "Rendezvouz picnic 2020" and he apparently confirmed that their stepping back from SFOs was ultimately temporary.
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In my talks with him personally, it didn't have that feeling. But, I hope so...
 
knifeswapper said:
Just because that is usually the first indicator? Do you have an example of something going in seconds on reservations, but being a dog when it hit the market?
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Certainly the first indicator, and everyone jumps when they get your bat signal. Then they come on here or other social media and brag about it (I am guilty too).
Your 44s reservation closed very fast. I bought one from a dealer 2 weeks ago. So then we would have to define "dog". Was it not popular or was there a lot of inventory.
 
the reserves have always mainly been a way to set and forget to me. If you dont want to worry about the rat race, and youre willing to commit, be fast on the trigger. Other wise just play the game like everyone else. Its a service hes offered to help folks sort of even the playing field a little. He doesnt have to offer it. Come shipping time, he gets paid all the same. One might argue it even costs him a little.
 
One has to remember that Mike only gets the allotment due to him from the factory. Whether that is a great number or not, it is still only a fraction of what gets distributed to all of GEC's dealers. Aside from the various dealers that offer the "wink, wink/nudge, nudge" agreement that some folks talk about here, Mike is the only one who offers a sophisticated Early Reserve program. I use it every opportunity I get simply because it offers me a hassle free experience. That said, it is much like any "drop" - you win some and you lose some. Just because Mike's stock may get spoken for in short order doesn't mean that there won't be other stock to choose from later on with other dealers.
 
mrknife said:
the reserves have always mainly been a way to set and forget to me. If you dont want to worry about the rat race, and youre willing to commit, be fast on the trigger. Other wise just play the game like everyone else. Its a service hes offered to help folks sort of even the playing field a little. He doesnt have to offer it. Come shipping time, he gets paid all the same. One might argue it even costs him a little.
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Oh, don't think that I am disparaging the reservation system. I think it is fair and equitable. It is quite brilliant IMO. Securing guaranteed sales weeks before your competitors have inventory?:cool: Genius. While also providing a service your customers crave. Top notch.;):D
 
Pàdruig said:
One has to remember that Mike only gets the allotment due to him from the factory. Whether that is a great number or not, it is still only a fraction of what gets distributed to all of GEC's dealers. Aside from the various dealers that offer the "wink, wink/nudge, nudge" agreement that some folks talk about here, Mike is the only one who offers a sophisticated Early Reserve program. I use it every opportunity I get simply because it offers me a hassle free experience. That said, it is much like any "drop" - you win some and you lose some. Just because Mike's stock may get spoken for in short order doesn't mean that there won't be other stock to choose from later on with other dealers.
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I agree.
 
FOMO can cause anxiety...FOMOCO can cause Edsels. :p

Looks like 3 springs to me, and the thin one is the BRR Tool, going by the mock-up's arrangement.

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Will Power said:
Whatever, I'm well pleased with the Skinner, it's a beautiful knife. The Stockman version has brilliant blade selection, no doubt fogeys and other 'purists' looked askance at deviating from the 'norm' or 'traditional' 3 blade stock knives. "Must have this, must not have that, according to this book they never existed" etc etc:rolleyes: I can remember all manner of bayings in 2008/9 when the then Forum Knife was having a Wharncliffe secondary. Proper Barlows never had this, it's not to be taken seriously ra ra. It worked and it worked brilliantly, then came along Northfield Barlows to huge acclaim ;) Likewise, with Tony Bose's Wharncliffe Trapper, purists might have been ruffled, but they didn't dare speak out when a Big Gun is behind the design:D Patterns, use and interpretation constantly evolve, if a knife works well and looks good with new blade arrangements it's a step forward in my book. The Dixie Stockman/Skinner is actual proof of this:cool:
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Remember way back to last year when Will wasn't a fogey?:p:D
 
akaMatt said:
I had to look that word up... thanks Will, I learned something today!

I would tend to agree with your assessment. I've run some numbers (*), and it looks like for every run of 400 knives put out by GEC...
- 1 is bought by a person who actually needs a knife to cut something
- 22 are bought by people wanting that specific pattern
- 82 are bought by people wanting to try something new
- 105 are bought by flippers, who will outrageously turn around and sell them, for a large profit
- 190 are bought by collectors, who will take a few pictures, then put them away for a while before graciously letting them go a few at a time as downsizing, for a large profit.

* numbers are based on sarcasm, skepticism, and some degree of truth
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Do forget the horrible modders that buy them just to take them apart and decrease the value.
Mitt said:
Looks like its a 2 spring not 3
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That’s 3 springs for sure you can see all 3 in the top one.
 
Jiki said:
Certainly the first indicator, and everyone jumps when they get your bat signal. Then they come on here or other social media and brag about it (I am guilty too).
Your 44s reservation closed very fast. I bought one from a dealer 2 weeks ago. So then we would have to define "dog". Was it not popular or was there a lot of inventory.
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You didn't do very good at picking one to guess at. The #44 in 2018 was an open order, so dealers got all they wanted. My reserves were open from 3/8/18 to 8/9/18 (production went from July to late August). Only the stag filled up before it was actually produced. I sold my last #44 in January of 2019.

My apologies if the tool has rubbed you the wrong way (or those that use it). But making derogatory remarks so far off the mark is aggravating.
 
knifeswapper said:
You didn't do very good at picking one to guess at. The #44 in 2018 was an open order, so dealers got all they wanted. My reserves were open from 3/8/18 to 8/9/18 (production went from July to late August). Only the stag filled up before it was actually produced. I sold my last #44 in January of 2019.

My apologies if the tool has rubbed you the wrong way (or those that use it). But making derogatory remarks so far off the mark is aggravating.
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Lol, the tool does not rub me in any way. I commend you for doing it. Refer to post 507.

I don't believe I was making a derogatory remark. My apologies if you were rubbed the wrong way. I knew you would have all the data to which I was using a very poor memory. Anyway, I think my point that the early reserve system could facilitate the FOMO response, which is not derogatory to the service you provide but rather comment on human behavior.
 
What about the pocket carvers? Did those fill up fast? I don't think an Early Reserve has much to do with stoking demand for GEC. I think it has much more to do with the way GEC releases knives and their reputation.
 
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