$9,000 EDC! (BOB KRAMER)

WORTH IT?

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Knives have practical, investment and entertainment values. As long as the balance on the whole experience comes up positive and you can swing it without selling an important major organ, go for it and enjoy it. The nominal value ($9,000) is kind of a meaningless distraction; the amount may be significant to most of us and just petty cash to you. The equation holds true whether the knife sold for a few dollars or a few hundred thousand.

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If you like it, and blowing 9 grand on a pocket knife wont hurt you or your family financially, then whats the problem? I think its a waste of money, $9000 towards a charity would be better but then again its not my money.
 
MrTong said:
I like and enjoy this characterization. Genuinely. But seriously, with this Ron Lake issue, I just spent the last five minutes looking this man up and there is no press on him. No sale results. That is like talking about an Underground Artist that no one knows. Sure, he may be the best. But Kramer gets the big money and the media!
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so you didn't even buy the knife because you like it ? you bought it because you thought it would give you status? ... in that case a simple "no" it's not worth it.
 
Blues Bender said:
I PAID $145,000 FOR THIS 570GT AND IT CAME WITH A SEBENZA???

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Are you sure that sebenza is legit? It looks a little fuzzy...
 
Since OP sees this more as art piece & investment...

I think this ALL depends on your wealth level. NOT at all about what the inherent or intrinsic value of an object is, but what the perceived value is. Similar to how much a painting is rather than the price of a shovel at Walmart.

For example, $20 is just chump change for most of us Americans. Is it poor investment to buy a $20 whatever...? Eh, I enjoy the collectible, It’s cool, I break it, whatever.

How about if u were dirt poor and broke as turd in Somalia. No way you can justify any knife over $100. Everyone there will say you are retarded for buying a $100 knife.

The point is, if you have enough wealth to carry $400 knife as a beater knife. You probably see a $9k investment as what most of us see as $200 investment. Expensive...?well relatively so. But most wont go broke over it.

Be happy of your abundance, appreciate the art, enjoy your wealth status of capitalism, and have fun. If someone doesnt see a $400 knife used as beater knife as sensible, they wont see a $9k knife as sensible either.
 
gazz98 said:
I can't tell you yet if it is worth it. You have to do a youtube video and see if it will baton. That is the be all, end all test for any type of knife and I will fight anyone that says otherwise.
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Stevie Y needs to kick Blasholes ass out and get Gallant in there before some other team steals him. Rip, Probie and Burr
 
longbow said:
My opinion is buy what you can afford. Obviously you are well heeled shall we say so I see no reason why you would have to justify to anyone what you spend on knives. Nor seek opinions on such things. Everybody's tastes are different and folks afford what they can afford and I don't begrudge any of it to anyone. I am not rich by any means. My wife and I have the ability to just about purchase anything that we need to without any undue harm to finances. As long as that purchase benefits the family in some way shape or form.

Now a simple example would be to look at the TV show Forged in Fire. Every single winner sold the tools they made for 10 grand. They made the tool that won the tests the tool was put through and rec. 10 grand for it, so technically they sold the knife for 10 grand. None of what I have seen on the show has equaled the caliber of your folder and none had the name that Bob Kramer does. Now me I like bowies and certain makers mostly from the past have the ability to claim extremely high prices on the secondary market. Names like DE Henry, Bill Moran, Bob Loveless, Jay Hendrickson, Fowler, Batson etc.etc. Would I ever use one of those knives for anything? Nope it would go right a strong box. So my thought is this buy what you like and what you enjoy. Whatever floats your boat and you don't regret the out lay of funds well your good to go in my book. keepem sharp
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An articulate and well thought out reply. I will research the names you presented.

JParanee said:
If you take yourself as a high end knife collector and you do not know who Lake is than what can I say

I know and like Bob Kramer and I’m very happy for all his success

he is a good Smith and a master marketer

in the world of chef knives he set the bar

In the world of high end folders Lake is one of the makers that set the bar

as for no one using high end swords etc your wrong again

I use 10k swords to cut things and so do many others

If your trying to impress people post....this in the custom forum where knives sell in that price range and much more frequently than here

seems like you want to start a .......is it worth it thread ....but then you question is the Lake worth it

to the man who payed 55k for the one I posted it is

in this world there are guys that go to the Blade Show and drop a 1ook on knives and don’t blink
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I am the type of Guy that bought a LaFerrari but didn’t look up the specifications, ask all those technical questions. I liked the look of it. It holds it’s value plus, that’s enough for me.

Likewise with this exercise. I didn’t ask this and that about it. It’s a great Brand. Will resell should I need to, plus it’s portable.

In short, I don’t need to go to a Blade Show to figure out the names I need to know. I’ll buy a Ronny Lake just to complete this exercise but not with that Sims 70s looming handle.
 
not2sharp said:
Knives have practical, investment and entertainment values. As long as the balance on the whole experience comes up positive and you can swing it without selling an important major organ, go for it and enjoy it. The nominal value ($9,000) is kind of a meaningless distraction; the amount may be significant to most of us and just petty cash to you. The equation holds true whether the knife sold for a few dollars or a few hundred thousand.

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My favorite test of these things are always to cut a Shiso Leaf in Water. But I have a bad feeling about dipping this in Water unless I dry it immediately afterwards.


CVamberbonehead said:
If you like it, and blowing 9 grand on a pocket knife wont hurt you or your family financially, then whats the problem? I think its a waste of money, $9000 towards a charity would be better but then again its not my money.
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Apprently, Bob donated 10% of all the sales from the three Knives to Charity. $4,000 in total.

unwisefool said:
You don't need input, you are seeking attention.
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This thread genuinely made me feel better about the purchase. Least I can justify it as an art piece now.

JJ_Colt45 said:
so you didn't even buy the knife because you like it ? you bought it because you thought it would give you status? ... in that case a simple "no" it's not worth it.
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Everyone loves Bob Kramer.

Puppadore said:
Since OP sees this more as art piece & investment...

I think this ALL depends on your wealth level. NOT at all about what the inherent or intrinsic value of an object is, but what the perceived value is. Similar to how much a painting is rather than the price of a shovel at Walmart.

For example, $20 is just chump change for most of us Americans. Is it poor investment to buy a $20 whatever...? Eh, I enjoy the collectible, It’s cool, I break it, whatever.

How about if u were dirt poor and broke as turd in Somalia. No way you can justify any knife over $100. Everyone there will say you are retarded for buying a $100 knife.

The point is, if you have enough wealth to carry $400 knife as a beater knife. You probably see a $9k investment as what most of us see as $200 investment. Expensive...?well relatively so. But most wont go broke over it.

Be happy of your abundance, appreciate the art, enjoy your wealth status of capitalism, and have fun. If someone doesnt see a $400 knife used as beater knife as sensible, they wont see a $9k knife as sensible either.
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I just hope I don’t drop it!
 
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You didn't buy a knife, you bought a work of art that just happens to be a knife. This in itself is fine, there's nothing wrong with buying something you like if you have the disposable income. You then proceeded to come onto a board of knife enthusiasts and brag about how you paid $9k for a knife in an effort to stoke your ego further. Furthermore, you then bragged that you would gladly blow more money on things you think are pretty and have no real practical interest in. Not sure what you were thinking, but I for one am not impressed. If you feel so badly about yourself that you care so deeply what others think you need to reevaluate where you are in life.

If you are indeed the very same Kenneth Tong I see online, the very same who lives and thrives on shock value, you can take a long walk off a short pier. We have enough trolls here already. Have a wonderful day.
 
Im glad you're happy about your purchase. After all, that's what matters.

Let us know how you feel when you try to sell it.
 
MrTong said:
Will, cause of this thread, dictate my next purchase. What I am thinking now, just cause of all this talk, is a Chef's Knife, done by either Kramer or someone else. But the handle, I will ask the desired dimensions for, and have cast for me in Platinum. Then I am thinking either Micro-Pave set with CVDs, and or Channel Set with Baguette Diamonds. I have access to all this. Then on the top and the bottom, where the handles "Sandwich" the Knife, I will get some top engraver do something intricate on it.
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LOL. It's your money. Spend it as you like and enjoy it. $9000 on a folder? Why not if you can afford it? It puts money into circulation and encourages artisanship. I'd buy a $12,000 Richard Reynoso classical guitar in a heartbeat if I could afford it.

Now your chef's knife is another matter. It sounds like one you might find in Liberace's kitchen. And it would be a bacteria magnet with all those channel set diamonds. Yuk. But I think you were just trying to be provocative so I didn't take it seriously.

Oh, and there are always cooks in any kitchen. One Head Chef or Executive Chef. Usually a Banquet Chef in hotels. One to several Sous Chefs. The rest are cooks/commis, even at 3 star Michelin restaurants.
 
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