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lazy otter said:
well I've done many glock conversions and seen many and with a good aftermarket barrel and mag you can reliably shoot a converted glock.....with the exception of the 10mm and 45 glock they are all basicly the same and converting from 40 down is okay.... I will say that these conversions may only work with 3rd Gen blocks i got no exp with early glock models or the current 4th Gen....and stock glock barrels do seem to cause extraction problems but good aftermarket barrels work great.....but most glock parts are interchangeable from the g17-g22
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I'm not saying they turn into a jam-0-matic with just the barrel and magazine swap, but they will never be as reliable as a factory built Glock 9mm pistol without the other parts. The only conversion that is 100% compatible with just a barrel and mag swap is going from .40 S&W to 357 SIG, all others require additional parts to make it run 100%. Just saying if I was relying upon said weapon, I'd be damned sure to change the other parts.
 
Oh you are absolutely right I miss understood what you were saying...im currently out of work due to a head injury...so im a little slow right now....lol...but yes any mod to a stock glock will affect its reliability...and if you do this conversion you should use good 9mm ammo or you may and probably will have ejection problems so 115gr Winchester white box no good ....but if you want to shoot lower power ammo I would switch the guide rod spring to a 10lb and see if it helps....i should add I carry a stock glock as my edc the only thing added is a crimson trace laser...cuz well I'll take any advantage....lol......once again so sorry for my misunderstanding.
 
HK P7.....

Either the P7M8 variety or, my favorite, the P7M13.

Here's a photo of my P7M8.



Negatives - Pricey, a little hard to find, and a bit heavy for EDC.

Positives - Compact, superb accuracy, and, like everything HK - quality, quality, and more quality.
 
Z51 said:
HK P7.....

Either the P7M8 variety or, my favorite, the P7M13.

Here's a photo of my P7M8.



Negatives - Pricey, a little hard to find, and a bit heavy for EDC.

Positives - Compact, superb accuracy, and, like everything HK - quality, quality, and more quality.
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Just don't shoot it very long! Gets hot in the trigger guard dang quick!!
 
92FS, Ruger LC9 and CZ75 P07. As good as Glocks and XDs are they just don't do it for me. I love Sigs but they are very pricey.
 
gunfixrjoe said:
I shoot guns everyday. All day. They all break. They all have strong points and weak points. My personal choice comes down to two. Glock and Sig. Glock may not be what some call 'pretty', but who cares. It's not a fashion show. The Glock is supremely reliable and ingeniously simple. Proper care and maintenance is essential with any firearm, as is proper training and consistent practice.

Choose wisely.........
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I would listen to Joe......heck I did listen to Joe.
To me Glocks are great gun, I do own a G27, I like to CCW sometimes or pack it just because it is so lite.
Glocks are like Becker knives. Their great! They will work almost everytime. They probably won't ever let you down.......but they got no soul.
When I hold one of my Sigs it just feels like I am holding quality. I bought a few of the Sig M11a1s and I also sometimes carry my Sig 220 carry 2nd gen........when I am not in Australia. I would be posting from prison.
A good friend of mine once told me, "the gun you want is the gun you need"
Good luck and let us know.
 
the 92 is am amazing pistol, i have 2. however if i could only have one 9mm it would be the same one i bought 12 years ago when i turned 21 and that is still on at bedside. glock 26
 
Another good thing about glock is since your looking for a large and small frame is that full size glock mags of the same cal work in the smaller models of the same caliber.....also if you want to spend some money checkout Joe chambers or Wilson combat.....not sure if chambers will do a 9mm but worth checking into and Wilson's are pretty darn nice.
 
It's especially important to choose the right load in 9mm. I like the Speer Gold Dot 124 grain +p, or the Winchester Ranger T 127 grain +p+. Dam near impossible to find now, I'm saving my stash! Although, if you shoot somebody in the face with just about any 9mm, I don't think they will be bothering you anymore;)
 
My Glock is kind of the AK of pistols, mine go bang every time.
 
S&W M&P

Sig P226 NAVY or X five tactical

i always liked the 92 but i found my shooting better with a p226

and of course if i would be in the US - i would buy a 1911 from nighthawk custom or wilson combat
 
I have an I.M.I. baby eagle which is a cz75 type clone. As far as ergonomics,quality,and price they are hard to beat.
 
I love my glock 23 fde; yeah I know, its a .40 but with the lone wolf conversion barrel you can shoot 9 too.
Sig p226 scorpion comes in second and to give you a third option, check out the czech cz75 if you like a browning hp you'll like the cz75. All great pieces; but the glock goes everywhere with me
 
Small pocket 9mm? Micro Glock or M&P Compact, or Kahr perhaps. The G and S&W benefit that you actually shoot them alot (ie more durable than most pocket pistols).
Med: G19 or 228 (argueably two of the very best all-around pistols on the planet). S&W M&P is also a solid choice. BHP is also a great choice.
Full Size: Gov't 1911, I prefer the Springfield Loaded(they make two, one fixed sighted, one adj. target sighted). So much fun its almost like cheating. Close second would be a G34 or S&W M&P Pro.
 
I like the following 9mm's -

Sig P210 - 8 round mag - 32 oz's (unloaded) - expensive and so are the mags but very accurate and a great trigger. Novak can do a mag release modification to give it a 1911 release and put a set of night sights on it. Great balance and feel in the hand. Weight loaded is around 40 oz's which compared to a Browning HP which is 35oz unloaded and 46 oz's loaded always felt better balanced to me. Those were the good choices in the mid 1970's when I started shooting as a youngster. The Sig is still hard to beat once modified but both are heavier than my other options I like.



CZ Shadow Compact with a manual safety by Angus Hobdell at the CZ Custom Shop. This is a variation on the CZ 75 which has been a favourite of mine since the late 70's when they started to be readily available. It weighs in at 28 oz's unloaded but is not a polymer pistol. It takes 14 rounds in the mag so is around 39 oz's once loaded but has great balance and feel. Like the Sig P210 it has integral slide rails and for a 4 inch barrel is incredibly accurate. Great carry piece and using the Shadow options you can kit it out with great sights. The manual safety non de-cocker is a real preference for me because I have decades of shooting using this type of system and never was happy with de-cocking a pistol when applying a safety. These are a good price too compared to my other preferences.



Wilson do a good ultra light compact ( not the Spec Ops which is full size and has a polymer frame ) which comes in at 26.5 oz's and is available in 9mm. It is similar to the Ed Brown Compact Carry Lightweight which I like better but these are only available in .45. The Wilson is a lighter carry than the others but has less mag capacity. It weigh's in at 34 oz's loaded and takes 8 rounds in the mag. You don't need high capacity mag's in real life - but you do need to have a gun with you when you need it. Light and small but accurate and reliable are the ticket.



These are the nice fancy ones I would chose in the USA. However, about everywhere else where you go and need to pick up something - a mini Glock is likely what you can find if you are lucky. They are a solid choice.

For larger full size pistols - which for me is usually a comp pistol - I like the CZ's (or Tangfolio's which are also CZ's in a different guise) - their high capacity mags and custom race gun features are all you need for top level competition.



One handy thing about Tangfolio's in the custom Limited or Open guns is that you can get barrel conversion kits and springs etc to swap a 9mm for a 10 mm if going to Africa or anywhere where you need more poke to sort out 4 legged threats.

These weigh in at around the 42 oz mark UNLOADED. So once loaded are a heavy weight option - around 55 oz's - but Africa is a place where high capacity mags are handy.

The 4 legged crowd can rock up in big numbers and usually it's in the dark. No street lights much over there!
 
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Love the G19s for all the numerous reasons stated in this thread. Curious about the new Walther line as well...have heard good things.
 
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