But Boats! He is Ranger of the hearts!
BTW, I was born an astronaut.
Seriously, was the Badlands post meant for all people or just for his personal sack-lickers so they would have another reason to celebrate him and his tough talk?
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But Boats! He is Ranger of the hearts!
BTW, I was born an astronaut.
Seriously, was the Badlands post meant for all people or just for his personal sack-lickers so they would have another reason to celebrate him and his tough talk?
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Questions.........How come an old Strider thread that was finished over a year ago gets ressurected so that the same people posting on the other threads can call Mick Strider names....this is getting old.
As mentioned above.......How come it's the same people posting all the time.
How come the geniuses failed to read the part where the SLCC was a cosmetically flawed knife that was given away and later turned up on the used market....but they still harp on about Q.C.
How come the people who say "Huh, I'm never gonna buy a Strider" are also the people screaming from the rooftops that they want Mick Strider to come here and publicly apologise to them.....is it anyones business .....really.
Bringing back an old thread just to sling more mud isn't cool.....It's trolling.
As mentioned above.......How come it's the same people posting all the time.
How come the geniuses failed to read the part where the SLCC was a cosmetically flawed knife that was given away and later turned up on the used market....but they still harp on about Q.C.
How come the people who say "Huh, I'm never gonna buy a Strider" are also the people screaming from the rooftops that they want Mick Strider to come here and publicly apologise to them.....is it anyones business .....really.
Bringing back an old thread just to sling more mud isn't cool.....It's trolling.
Yeah, it's getting a little tired. I'm still trying to figure out how a post about Strider getting taken advantage of by CS ends up in multiple all out Strider bashing thread. Give it a freakin rest already - we know you don't like Strider.
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Instead of posting more allegations or speculation of opinion on the forums, I made some phone calls, First to my US Senator's office, were I was able to obtain the phone # to the Pentegon ,Public relations and Human resources offices in Washington DC, under the Fair employment act most of the necessary info is public, they verified that Mick was in the Army, what years and that he was honorably discharged, thats all they can legally give. Next I called the special warefare center at Ft Bragg, in the past they have helped me contact old classmates of mine, I was referred by them to the Rangers.org web site (large alumni base info and records) that linked me to the U.S. Army Infantry website, that gave me the contact I needed at Ft Benning Georgia, to a Public Affairs officer and a operations officer incharge of the ACAP ( alumni and career placement), because of Mick's involment with the Ranger challenge and sponsorship they could tell me from a previous press release( a Bio) that they did on him ,the following info, His MOS was infantry, he graduated airborne training, graduated Ranger school, served in a Ranger Battalion and was honorable discharged. If you search there Army news paper archieve you will find the same info, also there is a photo of him and his graduating class and photo's of the Ranger challenge events.
I will report this fairly and unbiased though, no mention of combat service, I cannot confirm or verify the validity of that information.
I will stick to my original opinion, I like the guy, I have had good dealings with him, his products and the company, much better service and delivery times than half of the knifemakers I have been waiting three plus years to make and deliver a knife. He his doing a bang up job supporting our troops, law enforcement and the overall American way of life. I really dont care about what a man did 20 years ago, its what he is doing right now to make a differnce
I will report this fairly and unbiased though, no mention of combat service, I cannot confirm or verify the validity of that information.
I will stick to my original opinion, I like the guy, I have had good dealings with him, his products and the company, much better service and delivery times than half of the knifemakers I have been waiting three plus years to make and deliver a knife. He his doing a bang up job supporting our troops, law enforcement and the overall American way of life. I really dont care about what a man did 20 years ago, its what he is doing right now to make a differnce
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I find this very odd. If the above is indeed the case why would Mick allocute to the following?
section 1, part (c), Mick Strider had to allocute as follows:
Mick Strider hereby acknowledges that he has never been deployed as a U.S. Army Ranger. Strider also acknowledges that he has never served in or participated with SOCOM (Special Operations Command). Strider also acknowledges that he has never had any combat experience with any branch of the U.S. Military or U.S.Government Agencies, nor has he participated in any "Black Ops". Strider served in 2/75, but never graduated Ranger School. Strider lost all rank, was barred from re-enlistment and was discharged from the Military as a Private.
Are you saying that court document is a fake, or that Mick admitted to something very damaging to his own reputation that wasn't true?
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Well, it should be easy to verify. Every Ranger School graduate's name is on the wall. Every Ranger School Graduate should know their class date and number by heart.
https://www.benning.army.mil/rtb/photo.htm has photos of every Ranger School class back to the 50's. If the Army Times wrote about him, and mentioned his class date, and his class photo, it should be relatively easy to find and confirm, and that will put the rumor to rest one way or another.
https://www.benning.army.mil/rtb/photo.htm has photos of every Ranger School class back to the 50's. If the Army Times wrote about him, and mentioned his class date, and his class photo, it should be relatively easy to find and confirm, and that will put the rumor to rest one way or another.
"The customer is always right, especially when you sell him a shit sandwhich at filet mignon prices and tell him to eat it with gratitude and he rightfully refuses. "
Well boats, you've done a great job of overstating the entire situation in an inflammatory and disrespectful way. I wasn't addressing the post to you, but you've piled in anyway to continue muckraking.
Having been in customer service for over 25 years, I recognize the overzealous and arrogant attitude of a customer who always thinks he's right. I no longer work in the field because of it. I don't need to be further involved here other than to point out the knife in question has a been said to be a backdoor second. Your argument of QC is based on one that WAS slotted as imperfect - but don't let the facts get in your way to trash the maker.
Based on that, I find the rest of your trolling to be completely in form. Sarcasm is a great tool when you are trying to prop up your ego, and always draws a crowd of like minded admirers who run to see more hate talk.
CAFO's are finally getting zoned in my county, and threads like this confirm the need.
Well boats, you've done a great job of overstating the entire situation in an inflammatory and disrespectful way. I wasn't addressing the post to you, but you've piled in anyway to continue muckraking.
Having been in customer service for over 25 years, I recognize the overzealous and arrogant attitude of a customer who always thinks he's right. I no longer work in the field because of it. I don't need to be further involved here other than to point out the knife in question has a been said to be a backdoor second. Your argument of QC is based on one that WAS slotted as imperfect - but don't let the facts get in your way to trash the maker.
Based on that, I find the rest of your trolling to be completely in form. Sarcasm is a great tool when you are trying to prop up your ego, and always draws a crowd of like minded admirers who run to see more hate talk.
CAFO's are finally getting zoned in my county, and threads like this confirm the need.
Yes, you were being so respectful yourself, defending "lick my sack" as an appropriate, military inspired, customer service response.
Even if it is true, and the truth isn't highly valued at SKI or BL, The buyer in this thread did not know he was buying a "back door second" and had merely inquired here as to what to do about it when he was verbally assaulted for his trouble.
Perhaps if they are going to ever release garbage out of their shop, for whatever reason, they should sterilize it or otherwise mark it as a second, especially knowing there is a robust secondary market for their wares. He put the onus on the buyer to buy from an authorized dealer, which completely ignores the fact that even BL has a secondary market function.
BTW, anyone with an interest in knives knows that SKI's QC has been lacking in other ways. They go so far as to preemptively disclaim "cosmetic errors," which is why they are disfavorably compared to CRK product at similar price points.
Given your endorsement of crap people skills, it's good that a CAFO might give you a job opportunity soon.
Even if it is true, and the truth isn't highly valued at SKI or BL, The buyer in this thread did not know he was buying a "back door second" and had merely inquired here as to what to do about it when he was verbally assaulted for his trouble.
Perhaps if they are going to ever release garbage out of their shop, for whatever reason, they should sterilize it or otherwise mark it as a second, especially knowing there is a robust secondary market for their wares. He put the onus on the buyer to buy from an authorized dealer, which completely ignores the fact that even BL has a secondary market function.
BTW, anyone with an interest in knives knows that SKI's QC has been lacking in other ways. They go so far as to preemptively disclaim "cosmetic errors," which is why they are disfavorably compared to CRK product at similar price points.
Given your endorsement of crap people skills, it's good that a CAFO might give you a job opportunity soon.
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Some of what you quoted is true, but it is in how you read it. Never deployed is a reference to being called out to combat service in a combat compacity ( its how the Army determines pay rates and promotions for the brass rings). My uncle retireed a Major with the 82 airborne and in 25 years of service was only deployed twice, Bosnia and Gulf 1, and never jumped out of a plane, the rest of his career ,he was a desk jockey specializing in computer communications, that was his MOS and that is what the division needed him for. So the rest of it falls in place, no deployment ,no combat and I dont think that SOCOM was even an independent organization then either like today, so no Special ops assignments. Now what I dont understand, you have to graduate Ranger school to serve in a Ranger battalion,because that is there specialty within the division, you dont have to be airborne, but you do have to finish Ranger.
I dont have an answer for that one?? Is the document a fake, a typo or legal gargin, I dont know???
Some of what you quoted is true, but it is in how you read it. Never deployed is a reference to being called out to combat service in a combat compacity ( its how the Army determines pay rates and promotions for the brass rings). My uncle retireed a Major with the 82 airborne and in 25 years of service was only deployed twice, Bosnia and Gulf 1, and never jumped out of a plane, the rest of his career ,he was a desk jockey specializing in computer communications, that was his MOS and that is what the division needed him for. So the rest of it falls in place, no deployment ,no combat and I dont think that SOCOM was even an independent organization then either like today, so no Special ops assignments. Now what I dont understand, you have to graduate Ranger school to serve in a Ranger battalion,because that is there specialty within the division, you dont have to be airborne, but you do have to finish Ranger.
I dont have an answer for that one?? Is the document a fake, a typo or legal gargin, I dont know???
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Hi Michelle
sorry but i am a bit confused.. does that mean the court case never happened, or all the stuff about Mr Strider having to state that 'he was not a combat vet' is a lie?
The reason i ask is quite simple.. over at a UK knife based bulletin board i defended Mr Strider, Strider knives and publically stated that all the people who were hiring PIs should be boycotted. However the San Diego Court transcript is a matter of public record and it made a fair few us of seem like fools. It also makes me ashamed since i never said anything when people who questioned the Mick Strider story were being attacked.
If it is false then he should stand up for all of us who who stood behind him on the strength of his word. If it is true then he should be a man and apologise to all those who believed him, and to all those who suffered because they dared to question his story.
thanks
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Ugug, it's simple. There are good witch-hunts and there are bad witch-hunts. Also, some people can insult others online and are considered brave heros while others are called cowards, keyboard commandos, mall ninjas and such.
Some people are more equal than others.
Like this one time, when there was this big rant about Maxpedition in the green forum. Tim Tang was asked to give a statement, only to get insulted like in a kindergarten, even by an admin. Something like "scum", "backstabbing assbag" and other nice words.
Oh and it's totally cool and brave to be proud, that noone ever dared to tell you his opinion about you in reallife, even after stories like this:
Cool, huh? Ooooh yeah!
I can feel the force of honor and credibility even on this side of the pond. Just awesome!!!
Some people are more equal than others.
Like this one time, when there was this big rant about Maxpedition in the green forum. Tim Tang was asked to give a statement, only to get insulted like in a kindergarten, even by an admin. Something like "scum", "backstabbing assbag" and other nice words.
Oh and it's totally cool and brave to be proud, that noone ever dared to tell you his opinion about you in reallife, even after stories like this:
Cool, huh? Ooooh yeah!
I can feel the force of honor and credibility even on this side of the pond. Just awesome!!!
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Keith, unless Strider claimed he was deployed, under SOCOM, or performed "black ops," I am not sure there is an inconsistency with his claims that he was selected for Ranger service but injured so badly during training that he was discharged.
One could be a member of a given unit and not "deployed." Hence, no combat experience.
Does that fact that he did not complete Ranger training mean that it is inaccurate to say he was a member of a Ranger unit or a Ranger.
If you are discharged as a Private, you are no longer a member of the military and necessarily are not a Private in the active military. You are a civilian, not a Private. You lose all rank.
If you were discharged as disabled, you might be regarded as physically unsuited for future service.
Problem is, he has claimed such, or at the very least, intimated that such was the case.
Not if one also claimed, in this very forum, the status of combat veteran.
My limited understanding of the issue is that Rangers have tabs. The 2/75 is the organizational "home" of the Rangers, but certainly not all of its personnel are Rangers, no more so than the case of every Sailor in the NAVSPECWAR command also being all SeALS.
"Reduction in rank" is an administrative or judicial punishment, not a matter of course. At the end of my hitch, I was an E-5 and a civilian in the IRR. Had I been called up, I was an E-5 once again. The intimation of Strider's record is that at some point he was busted to private prior to discharge. Fortunately for him, he couldn't have fallen far in rank within two years or less.
Barred from re-enlistment denotes that though one may possess an HONORABLE discharge, one is also an RE-3 or RE-4. RE-3s can usually re-enlist with a waiver, RE-4s are generally disciplinary cases and not waiverable short of an Act of God. Barred from re-enlistment unless otherwise demonstrated, says to me "RE-4."
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Yes it does. If I don't pass the Bar, I can't say I am a lawyer, even though I went to law school. If he didn't pass Ranger training, he was never a Ranger.
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MikeMade;4341083 said:Wow... that post just convinced me never to waste my money on a strider product. I would expect the first response from a represenative of Strider concerning this thread to be a little more apologetic. Although I see no apology for piss poor quality control at all. Instead I see the QC defects being blamed on the fact that the knife wasn't bought from a strider dealer... These are obvious QC issues that merit a profuse apology from the company as well as a new knife. Not a "Hey its not our fault, but I guess we'll fix it since deep down in my heart I know that our QC guy either missed these defects or plain doesn't care."
Why do I see so many posts on this forum regarding Strider quality control?
Thanks for bringing up this thread from the grave ya noob moron...JFC
check the date on the post before you reply ya tard..Thanks for bringing up this thread from the grave ya noob moron...JFC
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A resurrection was one of the seminal moments in western civilization. Why do you hate Jesus?
LOL!!!
This thread is a lot of nothing about nothing for nothing...move on people...
Strider knives are fine knives..just like every thing else in the entire world...not evey one of them has been blessed by the pope perfect and not everyone in the world likes them..so no big deal...as far as I know Mick, Josh and the crew at Strider try very hard..
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A resurrection was one of the seminal moments in western civilization. Why do you hate Jesus?
Sorry but that made me laugh out loud, just thought I'd let you know. I dont remember the last time a post actually caused a real-life laugh to come out of me.
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