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Sonnydaze
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When Blues speaks, folks listen.
What a bunch of people do NOT realize is that Blues lives in Illinois...one of the most restrictive states in the U.S.
When you think about it, remember that Spyderco actually has a MODEL called the Chicago, to go along with Illinois knife regulations. Of course, a two-inch blade won't serve you terribly well for defensive purposes...but few knives will unless you are trained.
What a bunch of people do NOT realize is that Blues lives in Illinois...one of the most restrictive states in the U.S.
When you think about it, remember that Spyderco actually has a MODEL called the Chicago, to go along with Illinois knife regulations. Of course, a two-inch blade won't serve you terribly well for defensive purposes...but few knives will unless you are trained.
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I think 2" blade OR LESS is ideal for hand to hand combat with a two legged animal...that length blade minimizes the injuries sustained when YOU get disarmed of YOUR OWN blade and it gets turned on YOU by the tweaker in the scrum that will ensue. Of course I say this in jest...partly.
Coming from a country in which hand guns are illegal as is carrying a knife for anything other than work purposes and even our police force is unarmed I find it very difficult to comprehend what it must be like to live in fear for your own safety in your day to day lives.
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A knife is a terrible weapon without training. Get a friend and a permanent marker and put some old clothes on and have them come at you and grapple. Try to mark them with the marker to simulate a knife strike. When done, look for marker. I bet you are both marked up fairly good. Also, unless you have a good guard on the knife you will likely slice your hand pretty good. Having just had surgery in my foot to repair a severed tendon, I can tell you I wouldn't want to have it done to my hand.
Also, I think collapsible batons are restricted in quite a few states.
If you are in a state that allows firearm carry and you don't work in a prohibited place such as government building, an employer can't make up their own laws. Do what you want with that info but if you are somehow discovered to be carrying (which shouldn't happen if discrete, and you leave when asked, you shouldn't have any legal trouble. On the other hand, what your employer does concerning your employment is anyone's guess.
Also, I think collapsible batons are restricted in quite a few states.
If you are in a state that allows firearm carry and you don't work in a prohibited place such as government building, an employer can't make up their own laws. Do what you want with that info but if you are somehow discovered to be carrying (which shouldn't happen if discrete, and you leave when asked, you shouldn't have any legal trouble. On the other hand, what your employer does concerning your employment is anyone's guess.
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I am not interested in knives being used as weapons, but what you said in your first paragraph showed exactly the opposite to what you wanted to convey.
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ha, ha
partly tung in cheek now :
Cold Steel has that one fingered out . . . just carry two . . . two inch knives. Have you seen the YouTube with two super edges ? That pork loin or what ever didn't stand a chance. Can tie the neck carry sheaths together in a cross draw mode.
Wild Furry !
PS: or maybe it was The Urban Pal but you get the picture and it aint pretty .
What? Why? So if he does have to explain the situation to a police officer he can try to explain to them why he totes around a large screwdriver when he works a desk job? He may as well just carry a knife and dull the blade. That's easier to explain than a screwdriver or a random pair of scissors.
Also, in regard to the people suggesting "you're more likely to be overpowered and have the knife turned on you", give me a break. I agree that a knife is not great for self defense due more to range than anything, but that logic is massively flawed. You're suggesting that simply by drawing a knife you're more susceptible to being overpowered than you would have been without said knife? If that's the logic then the two individuals will just roll around exchanging the knife because, you know, once you have it, the other person is likely to take it away from you.
Self defense laws throughout the country are fairly clear. If you're acting in self defense and you fear for your life or great bodily harm, using whatever method you can to defend yourself is fairly acceptable. Especially since the OP already stated he can CC in his state, just not at his job. If taken to trial, the same excuse for having to use a gun would work for a knife.
After that rant, I recommend pepper spray. Get the gel or the foam. If you do get the liquid, make sure it's a stream and not atomized. Having pepper spray blowback is no way to defend yourself.
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^ He probably knows that living in fear day to day would suck.
I used to have a bunch of those Urbans, although not by CS. I keep thinking they were Benchmade but this was like 2 decades ago, so it's been awhile. It was great.. at getting stolen like all the time.
To the point where you just go fck it. Good quality and it is a very useful form. Gained some traction but pretty much died out. Replaced by karambit stuff.
I used to have a bunch of those Urbans, although not by CS. I keep thinking they were Benchmade but this was like 2 decades ago, so it's been awhile. It was great.. at getting stolen like all the time.
To the point where you just go fck it. Good quality and it is a very useful form. Gained some traction but pretty much died out. Replaced by karambit stuff.
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Yes , there's NEVER been any violence in Ireland !
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If you're going to carry pepper spray, read the posts in PracTac by Tyr_Shadowblade. Think of it as an "eyejab in a can" rather than a do-all, be-all. It's a great dissuader for bums and the like, but far less useful against those who are determined to attack.
Another useful tool is a pocket flashlight of the 2xAAA variety that carries bezel-down with a pocket clip, either carried in the pocket or between the buttons of your shirt. Serves a utility purpose and will be strong enough to get you through a single defensive encounter before it gets consigned to an evidence locker. Recommend single-output for simplicity, and a "reverse-clicky" switch for momentary use. A Mini-Mag 2xAAA LED model will do, although it you won't be able to shine the light at the attacker, but you will have a great butt-end strike. You'll also want to epoxy the clip in place.
As to 2" knives, bear in mind that anywhere on the human body you feel a pulse, the artery is 1/4" below the skin surface. Billy the Kid's first victim was killed with a broken pocket knife, which measured 1" long. Further, at least two police in Texas were killed by a single assailant with a carpet cutter, which also has about a 1" blade.
Another useful tool is a pocket flashlight of the 2xAAA variety that carries bezel-down with a pocket clip, either carried in the pocket or between the buttons of your shirt. Serves a utility purpose and will be strong enough to get you through a single defensive encounter before it gets consigned to an evidence locker. Recommend single-output for simplicity, and a "reverse-clicky" switch for momentary use. A Mini-Mag 2xAAA LED model will do, although it you won't be able to shine the light at the attacker, but you will have a great butt-end strike. You'll also want to epoxy the clip in place.
As to 2" knives, bear in mind that anywhere on the human body you feel a pulse, the artery is 1/4" below the skin surface. Billy the Kid's first victim was killed with a broken pocket knife, which measured 1" long. Further, at least two police in Texas were killed by a single assailant with a carpet cutter, which also has about a 1" blade.