A folder's potential role in subduing animal attacks?

Never claimed to be an expert. In watching Jack Hanna's interview last night, I get the possibly mistaken impression that he might have some expertise on the subject. He said thet chimps are 8X stronger. Could be he's mistaken though.

I'll defer to the expertise, in both knife fighting and the best way to handle chimps during a surprise attack, to the members of the forum who are so much more qualified than myself.

Your humble servant,


Thomas :rolleyes:
 
i don't necessarily think zoologists or anthropologists would be qualified to conclusively seal this debate. most career scientists are not equipped with anything remotely close ot the right physical (and even psychological) elements to fend off their oldest daughters. however, their insight would still be valuable - just fraught with bias like all of our views ultimately are.
 
Most career scientists probably are like chemists or physicists or other kinds of lab worker. Zoologists and anthropologists, like archaeologists, tend to do their work in the field. And they study animals like chimpanzees, including learning their posture and sound communications systems. But no, they don't dress in hooded black pajamas. You've got us beat there.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
Zoologists and anthropologists, like archaeologists, tend to do their work in the field (...) But no, they don't dress in hooded black pajamas. You've got us beat there.
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i actually prefer olive drab. but hey, don't mess with my evening wear :D

rooowaaar, grrrrrrr.
 
silenthunterstudios said:
:rolleyes: I'm waiting for an anthropologist or zoologist to reply.
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You mean somebody who actually knows something about it?

You nutty radical ;)
 
This thread is fascinating. It's gone on for almost two days now, and it's about the possibility of being attacked by Chimpanzees, and the human potential to survive such an attack. What are the possibilities of this ever occuring to any of us? 'Course, it did happen to two folks that we know of. But still....what if all the Robins in my back yard go nuts and gang up on me? Will a SAK Classic be big enough for self defense? But, birds are really fast...And by the way, Sondra Locke might be a bit of a dog, but she's got a pretty sweet little figure, IMO.
The Sondra Locke comment is in reference to Silenthunter's comment. :p
 
this thread is about speculating the unlikely. it's just good, clean, monkey-spankin' fun. the reason why it's so popular is because 1) esav is posting in it, and 2) it raises provocative primal questions of the survival of the fittest between man & his closest relative.

well, at least this discussion inspired me to take a closer look at the BM Skirmish. any way to get the rainbow colors out without ruining the handle finish?
 
Garlic said:
this thread is about speculating the unlikely. it's just good, clean, monkey-spankin' fun. the reason why it's so popular is because 1) esav is posting in it, and 2) it raises provocative primal questions of the survival of the fittest between man & his closest relative.

well, at least this discussion inspired me to take a closer look at the BM Skirmish. any way to get the rainbow colors out without ruining the handle finish?
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Good comments, especially #2. Please forgive my ignorance, as I'm pretty new here, but why is Esav special? :confused: Sorry Esav, don't know you. :cool:
 
You mean somebody who actually knows something about it?
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Well, I trust the opinion of my dad (a biologist with a few years of field work spent in the jungle in SE Asia), and my mom, who grew up there. And I've seen aggressive behavior from monkeys in the wild, as I mentioned before. Familiarity breeds agressiveness towards humans in monkeys, as does age.
But as always, sendec knows a lot more about this than anyone else, and soon he will start complaining about the first amendment and calling me a hypocrite. ;)
(j/k sendec)

Garlic said:
this thread is about speculating the unlikely. it's just good, clean, monkey-spankin' fun. the reason why it's so popular is because 1) esav is posting in it, and 2) it raises provocative primal questions of the survival of the fittest between man & his closest relative.

well, at least this discussion inspired me to take a closer look at the BM Skirmish. any way to get the rainbow colors out without ruining the handle finish?
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Well, I don't know about you, but no ape will best me in hand to hand combt today - no ape ever has! Why? Because I'm a badass and they know not to mess wit' me. :rolleyes:


Try OxyClean on the Skirmish.
Wow... I said something useful on this thread. :cool:
 
A Dogs Best Friend said:
Good comments, especially #2. Please forgive my ignorance, as I'm pretty new here, but why is Esav special? :confused: Sorry Esav, don't know you. :cool:
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Because unlike me, :grumpy: He is BELOVED :D ......
 
Will P. said:
I asked my dad, who did a lot of fieldwork in the jungle. He said that while chimpanzees are short, heavy, stocky, and very strong in their upper bodies, the 6-7 man figure is a myth. Maybe 6-7 old people. He recommended a walking stick or club to discourage an attack.
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Actually, it's not a myth...

In tests at the Bronx Zoo in a dynamometer--a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring--was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall, being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like next morning.) In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_001b.html
 
I posted about my enconter w/pit bulls and my sjambok. Someone was asking about the legality of openly carrying it. I am a police sergeant in a Fla. City. I carry mine on my nightly walks through my neighborhood. It is no different than carrying a walking stick or cane, I just find the Sjambok more versatile. I also own one of the "Cane Master" canes. It is very sturdy and would probably kill something if I had to employ it. The sjambok is a submission tool. I first learned of them when I was in the Navy and visited a few countries in Africa. It is a tool that could be employed fairly successfully by even a healthy elderly person. I have been reading the forums here for awhile. I have just started adding my two cents worth. This is a great site and I appreciate everyone's knowledge and opinions. Thanks...
 
Boozoo Chavis said:
Actually, it's not a myth...

In tests at the Bronx Zoo in a dynamometer--a scale that measures the mechanical force of a pull on a spring--was erected in the monkey house. A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall, being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. (She was in a fit of passion at the time; one shudders to think what her boyfriend must have looked like next morning.) In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_001b.html
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It's anecdotal evidence (it says so on the site)... but I don't doubt that chimps are scary strong. So is the short, squat lifter who lives a couple floors above me... of course, he's probably an ape too. ;)
 
I would like to see about ten of you guys take on a group of chimpanzees in the jungle, hell, what about on the open plains, that sounds malicious, I don't want any of you guys to get hurt, just making an example? Armed with only knives, take out the element of surprise, I don't think you would last too long.
 
Will P. said:
It's anecdotal evidence (it says so on the site)
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Offer'em facts and its still not enough. Rock on, counterchimp warriors. Suppose the chimps are riding giant nuclear mutant spiders? "Hey, come back here with my testicles and fight fair, Dr. Zaius!" Dont forget we have a height advantage, but they beat us on reach.
 
I'm not sure a knife would help you against a chimpanzee unless you are a trained knife fighter. They are very strong and fast. There is also a very real possibility that the chimp could take the knife away and use it against you. I would take a club over a knife any day, if only because it gives you a little more distance from the beast.
 
zinn1348 said:
OH!

I thought we're ALL trained knife fighters here. :rolleyes:


Thomas
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I trained at the Black-Ops School of Ninja Knife Fighting. Classes are held Tuesday and Thursday at my local mall. I ain't skeered o' no chimp! :rolleyes:

Paul
 
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