A formal apology from Jared West of Mantis Knives

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I have seen nothing in these knives that is new or inovative beyond cosmetics. The price is sure cheap but you usually get what you pay for.

I can get some pretty cheap knives from Frost that run along the same asthetic lines as the ones from these guys.

I know that the majority of the discussion is about the spam operation but beyond that why would I buy one of these?

Mr. Hockey mask has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that a Cheaper Than Dirt Rough Use Knife will out perform a Chris Reeve Green Beret.

Why not see if he will test a Mantis and see if they hype goes beyond the spam.
 
Douchebag, Douchebag, what a horrible word
I prefer being called a syphliss filled turd
You should have never used it; that word is dum
In the future call me smegma or elephant scum

Why don't we meet at BLADE, right in the pit
and if you up you're a real stupid shit
I am a Militia man and Jareds' my boss
and I will carry a Mantis of course of course
I hold the rank of Colonel and I lead my troop
we bite off dicks, we chew on poop
Mantis Militia; yeah we'll be at that show
we'll wear 5.ll's and be ready to go
It may take our Army to end your damn life
But the first dead Ninjas will earn a new knife
I must go right now to North Carolina
The Docs are going to make a vaginia
But I'll be at ready, my vaginia will heal
and our great Nija powers you're going to feel
I will end this now but heed this warning
were the mantis Milita we are now training and Learning


Boom chuga luga, boom chuga hey

wolfman i needed a laugh this AM, lol.

as far as the mantis campaign i suppose the owner thinks any pub is good pub, i know untill all this started i had never heard of mantis knives, of course i am not a potential customer, they arent "my type", but i suppose he's just trying to get the word out, as childish and ill-concieved an idea as this "campaign" was he probably thinks "any pub is good pub".

there isnt one single thing "special" about anything in the mantis line imho, they are just another entry level knife manufacturer (or importer) a notch/2 below CRKT, nothing at all special about them.

i wonder if they will be around in one or two years?

i dont have anything against the guys who posted attempting to win a freebie imho they were mislead & i dont think realised all the crap that was fixing to come, & i dont know how much faith ya can put into a plug for a product when the plugger is getting something for the plug, so imho the whole thing accomplished very little except to foster ill will, but it did at least get some folks interested in BF, so i guess not all was lost lol,
 
Since I'm both new to BF as a poster(I've lurked for about a year now) and not a MANTIS knife owner i feel qualified to make an unbiased statement here:

The whole incident was unfortunate. After reading everything posted here i don't think Jared West ever told anyone to spam any forum; the spamming occured because severall apparently very immature fans of MANTIS Knives decided to break all conventions in internet protocol to win a knife. As far as i can tell, West only encouraged supporters to vocally support his company. He WAS wrong to get personal with anyone, as a businessman. But he isn't "guilty" of anything more than bad luck and the curse of youthful over-reaction. And, maybe, inexperience. 27 ain't that old, in the big picture.

To be fair to the guy- IF he is recovering from any bad habits from his youth it must be extremely difficult to run a business. That alone is enough to break many men, let alone doing it while in recovery from any addiction. And anyone who insults a person who's open about his or her recovery from addiction is immature and childish IMHO. It's easy to throw stones from a safe computer desk.

I've been saddened by some of the reactions that BFer's have posted. Apparently many posters here are hypocritical enough to attack West for "stupidy/immaturity/being a liar" while showing no "class" or dignity themselves. Taking cheap shots at someone in a bad position is the action of bullies and children, and puts you on the same level as those you would accuse.

While i totally agree that the spam campaign was a bad episode, and could(even SHOULD) have been avoided, it was ONLY a mistake and an episode. It certainly was nothing worth attacking the man's integrity and campaigning to DESTROY his business over. I mean, geesh- would YOU expect to be attacked by everyone able to for a mistake you made? Most of the biggest accusers here seem like the least-likely people to be able to withstand any criticism. Let alone have the courage to post a formal apology.

It takes maturity and human decency to forgive and move on. What happened in this incident will certainly not be forgotten. But to pretend that it is "unforgivable" is selfish, childish, unfair, wrong and generally stands against the principles of justice and right-mindedness the internet world purports to stand for.

So stop talking like the guy killed Christ. All he did was get a little hot-headed. It was wrong. He knows it. We know it. Stop relishing in another's misfortune and move on with your own lives, or you'll end up every bit as "stupid" and "untrustworthy" as those you accuse.

And kudos to those able to accept his apology- i, myself, remember who is thoughtful and decent here and who is hateful and exploitive. Far from boycotting West's business, i'm personally going to avoid those BFer's who used his bad situation to their own purposes, because i won't support cowards and vultures who enjoy kicking anyone when he's down.

And i'm NOT affiliated in any way with MANTIS or West. Nor do i want any thanks from him, or his supporters. This is just the truth. It ain't on ANYBODY'S side. Neither am i.

Public Internet forums should be accessible to everyone. Group attacks and slander shouldn't occur. Life is hard enough with our becoming the very people we say we despise: finger-pointers.

And i will NOT reply to any posts regarding this. I'm done. That's all i got to say 'bout that.

TDK
 
Lawdy, Lawdy, here we go again!
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Since he's new here and doesn't know all that's been going on, nor does he really know much about the people he thinks behaved poorly in criticizing the unfortunate Jared West, he feels qualified to ... what?

Offer his uninformed opinion! :D
 
I"ve got three things to say in response:

1. This isn't about 'addiction' or overcoming youthful indiscretions. I don't care what he smokes or drinks. If you're old enough to run a business and cash the checks, you're old enough to not act like a putz.
2. I believe this is a Private internet Forum open to the public, not a public forum. If I'm wrong about this, you have my apologies.
3. Nobody is out to destroy a business. We're out to protect the buying public. I want the buying public to buy knives with confidence, and kudos to go to the good dealers. When I buy a knife from www.1sks.com, I never have to worry about blade material, handle material, etc. It is a given that it is what is written and what is written is what it is.

That is also what the Good, Bad and Ugly Forum is for.

SPX... I want that 'beating the dead horse' thing.... that is great!
 
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Jared West got exactly what he deserved. I hope this thread stays around long enough for lots more people to get to see what kind of a putz he is.
 
John,
It's Primanti's bro's,get it right. :p
Carry on! :thumbup:

Doug :)

Sorry , typing on a Sony Mylo is a royal pain.... growing up in the Burg' I should have caught that. ( well actually in da' Port..McKeesport )

make mine a chipped ham sammich... :thumbup:
 
Run a check on him yourself. Click on his profile and run down his posts, then tell me you still think he's Jared West. :)
 
Yes, it was. But from the rest of his time here, it looks like he's a typical good-guy knife-knut,
so I'd say he earned the right to speak his mind. Even if he is TOTALLY WRONG !!! :D
 
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