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A formal apology from Jared West of Mantis Knives
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I may have to do that. I have the MA-2/I. and it is an amazing little knife
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Read it to the end before you draw conclusions, please.
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You're right. I'm sorry I outed Jared's future plans to continue the shilling campaign that he made a public apology for less than a week later.
I suppose it made his apology seem two-faced.I should have waited to see if he went ahead with Charlie-One.
The last thing I would want is to seem underhanded and deceitful.
In all seriousness though, I've seen a lot of pyramid schemes, scams, and underhanded marketing, especially in the area Mantis Knives is based. Seems like a hot zone for it.
I guess you can't blame people for believing in something that sounds like a lifetime opportunity. I would have loved to be in on the ground floor with a company like Spyderco--meaning closely connected to customers, not comparing quality or design philosophy--and help promote their designs.
It's just that with a company like Spyderco, Sal let the designs market themselves, and the customers came because the quality was there. Mantis had the chance to do the same thing, and it's sad to see Jared take the dishonest direction, bordering on running a scam instead of running a company.
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I appreciate enderwiggen's post. It showed us just what a scuzzball Jared really is.
Ed, I hope your future on bladeforums is a pleasant one. Stay away from crap like went on in the Mantis spamming campaign and I think you will be a good addition to the community.
Ed, I hope your future on bladeforums is a pleasant one. Stay away from crap like went on in the Mantis spamming campaign and I think you will be a good addition to the community.
Hopefully you are sincere with all of this. It's admirable that you stick up for a friend, sticking up for your mates is something that's very firmly embedded in my culture too so I recognise it for what it is. Unfortunately, it seems, you've been conned by a sociopath who has used you to further his ends. I very much doubt he gives a rat's backside for you other than as a shill to spam his stuff.
If you want to continue here on the forum I'm sure you will find it rewarding as long as you DON'T talk about your scumbag "friend" or his knives. His reputation here is shot, completely. If you like his knives, fine, if you still think he's a friend, fine, but I suggest you keep it to yourself while here on BF.
That's the ticket, that's the way to restore your reputation here.
Let's start again:
Welcome to Bladeforums.
Unbelievable.
I sit here reading all this, and I think to myself, if this guy just played it straight, kept consistent product details, cooled the hype, and acted as an honest broker, his success would have only increased. Now he has been exposed for the unscrupulous actor, to put it kindly, that he is.
Anybody know the editor over at Blade?
I sit here reading all this, and I think to myself, if this guy just played it straight, kept consistent product details, cooled the hype, and acted as an honest broker, his success would have only increased. Now he has been exposed for the unscrupulous actor, to put it kindly, that he is.
Anybody know the editor over at Blade?
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Man, this is too bad this situation wound up like it did. When I stopped by the Mantis booth at SHOT show this year, I didn't expect it to lead to this.
Too bad.
Too bad.
Pretty sad when you think about it. All the guy had to do was sign up here as a dealer or maker or whatever and he could have promoted his stuff like all the other legitimate guys do but, his first instinct was to go the slimy way. Now his rep is shot and he's lost lots of potential customers!
Such is life!
Just got back from a great BBQ and poker night with friends. Showed them this thread, and they were amazed, especially when they got to the last 4 pages or so. Since RW has said he is going to stay on the forums and attempt to play nice, I will refrain from more criticism.
However, I will respond to his post directed at me.
Yes I am, and yes I do. Judging by the number of years of your claimed military service, I would guess we're about the same age. I called you a douchebag. I could have chosen one of several adjectives, I happened to use that particular one. Are you in fact a douchebag? Of course not. just like when you call someone an asshole, you're not claiming they really are, or look like a sphincter. But most people get the meaning.
Why did I call you that? You claimed you weren't in it for the knife, yet you received one, and you say you're a friend of his. Doesn't seem ethical. If you weren't in it for the knife, give it to someone else.
I do, to my detriment or benefit. I speak my mind.
Okay. Maybe we can even swap shoes. I wear the same size. You posted afterward that you didn't think it was a threat. Although slightly veiled, I perceived it that way as well, but no big deal. If I see you at a show, I will definitely shake your hand. You have mentioned other knives and interests in different threads that I see some shared interest we could discuss (besides being the same size). Works for me.
Now I am done with this. I too, welcome you to the forums.
Rik
However, I will respond to his post directed at me.
If you were in the military for 20 years, I'm going to guess you did speak like that on occasion.
Yes I am, and yes I do. Judging by the number of years of your claimed military service, I would guess we're about the same age. I called you a douchebag. I could have chosen one of several adjectives, I happened to use that particular one. Are you in fact a douchebag? Of course not. just like when you call someone an asshole, you're not claiming they really are, or look like a sphincter. But most people get the meaning.
Why did I call you that? You claimed you weren't in it for the knife, yet you received one, and you say you're a friend of his. Doesn't seem ethical. If you weren't in it for the knife, give it to someone else.
I do, to my detriment or benefit. I speak my mind.
Okay. Maybe we can even swap shoes. I wear the same size. You posted afterward that you didn't think it was a threat. Although slightly veiled, I perceived it that way as well, but no big deal. If I see you at a show, I will definitely shake your hand. You have mentioned other knives and interests in different threads that I see some shared interest we could discuss (besides being the same size). Works for me.
Now I am done with this. I too, welcome you to the forums.
Rik
good idea diamdave:thumbup:. maybe post the email address to the editor of blade so everyone can send in an email letting them know how low it was for jared tell his flock to spam knife websites so he doesnt have to pay for advertisement. 
he wanted publicity, lets give him some publicity. too bad it wont be the kind he was wanting
he wanted publicity, lets give him some publicity. too bad it wont be the kind he was wanting
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