A little dissapointed....

[austinguy23]

Every Benchmade I've owned has had a centered blade and excellent lock-up. I've never paid more than $90 for any of those knives.

Chris Reeve Knives are touted as having unmatched fit and finish and he charges 3x - 4x the price of a Benchmade for that world renowned "fit & finish".


How many people have to connect these dots for some of you? Jesus Christ.

 

[bearcut]

I can't comment one way or the other as to validity of the issue presented by the OP. However the term "Good Enough" needs to be weighed in direct proportionality to purchase price. quote]

My point exactly.
When taken in the context of my post, CRK's 'good enought' should be better than say, Kershaws 'good enough'. The OP's Seb might have been up to CRK's standards of "good enough", which would be very good indeed.

However, many are so brainwashed as to think that 'flawless' is a reality.

My 'zaan is a very well built knife. I can't find any major flaws yet, (besides the ergos, a minor flaw, but that's just personall preference). But I would never tell someone that this $400 knife is twice as flawless or twice as good as a $200 Falkniven, Al Mar, or some other quality knife, because it's not.

Stating that Sebenzas are fantastic knives may be true.
Stating that Sebenzas are the best knife made, or flawless, or twice as good as a $200 knife may not be true. Unfortunately, the latter statement is more common than the former.

Truth hurts sometimes. Especially whan you just spent $400, told everyone how great it is, and are dissapointed later on.

I can connect the dots.....

 

[cutter17]

Every Benchmade I've owned has had a centered blade and excellent lock-up. I've never paid more than $90 for any of those knives.

Chris Reeve Knives are touted as having unmatched fit and finish and he charges 3x - 4x the price of a Benchmade for that world renowned "fit & finish".


How many people have to connect these dots for some of you? Jesus Christ.

Have you ever posted a positive thread in the CRK forum? Just curious, as every thread I've read is something negative. As I told you in another CRK thread, you would be better off talking less and listening more. One could get the idea that you are "trolling" around in the CRK forum. Take this as you want, just the way I see it.

 

[Rat 1]

I'll take it if you don't want it

 

[BobP63]

Stating that Sebenzas are fantastic knives may be true.
Stating that Sebenzas are the best knife made, or flawless, or twice as good as a $200 knife may not be true. Unfortunately, the latter statement is more common than the former.

No doubt. :thumbup:

With respect to the "Quality vs Cost" equation you rapidly hit a point of diminishing returns, in terms of this I believe CRK has struck an appropriate balance.

To put it in perspective: I can afford to buy two Sebenzas today; however getting a knife twice as good as a Sebenza is outside of my budget.

 

[SteelSnob]

Every Benchmade I've owned has had a centered blade and excellent lock-up. I've never paid more than $90 for any of those knives.

Chris Reeve Knives are touted as having unmatched fit and finish and he charges 3x - 4x the price of a Benchmade for that world renowned "fit & finish".


How many people have to connect these dots for some of you? Jesus Christ.

Then what are you doing here? Go to BM's forum. It's obvious you just want to come here to complain about a knife you don't understand. You don't know what you're talking about. Dude get a life! I've been reading your posts and you're always talking crap about stuff. It's not our fault you're a miserable bastard. And BTW congrats because you're the first person to ever be put on my ignore list.

 

[u812]

We still have not seen pics of the OPs knife.
I will hold any judgment until then.
I saw posted somewhere else once about how bad the QC on a knife was then after a couple days pics were posted and the problems were things I would not have even noticed.

 

[cutter17]

Then what are you doing here? Go to BM's forum. It's obvious you just want to come here to complain about a knife you don't understand. You don't know what you're talking about. Dude get a life! I've been reading your posts and you're always talking crap about stuff. It's not our fault you're a miserable bastard. And BTW congrats because you're the first person to ever be put on my ignore list.

I agree SS! Guess I was just trying to be nice, while you have hit the nail square on the head.

 

[SteelSnob]

We still have not seen pics of the OPs knife.
I will hold any judgment until then.
I saw posted somewhere else once about how bad the QC on a knife was then after a couple days pics were posted and the problems were things I would not have even noticed.

Agreed. I remember the guy saying he barely got his knife it was hardly used and CRK called him a liar and wouldn't fix it. Then CRK posted pics of the knife and it looked like it had been to he'll and back. I still haven't seen a knife abused as that since. It looked like it had been on knifetests .com

 

[RICKSTER]

Have you ever posted a positive thread in the CRK forum? Just curious, as every thread I've read is something negative. As I told you in another CRK thread, you would be better off talking less and listening more. One could get the idea that you are "trolling" around in the CRK forum. Take this as you want, just the way I see it.

Then what are you doing here? Go to BM's forum. It's obvious you just want to come here to complain about a knife you don't understand. You don't know what you're talking about. Dude get a life! I've been reading your posts and you're always talking crap about stuff. It's not our fault you're a miserable bastard. And BTW congrats because you're the first person to ever be put on my ignore list.

He Doesn't even own a CRK, He nothing but a Little punk TROLL that still wet behind the ears. After you grow a pair you can talk :jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:

 

[bigmark408]

Every Benchmade I've owned has had a centered blade and excellent lock-up. I've never paid more than $90 for any of those knives.

Chris Reeve Knives are touted as having unmatched fit and finish and he charges 3x - 4x the price of a Benchmade for that world renowned "fit & finish".


How many people have to connect these dots for some of you? Jesus Christ.

Please help me to connect the dots...how many 90 dollar BM's will you buy before you figure out that you can buy one CRK and call it quits?

I am assuming by your call sign that your 23 years old (although many here may think your younger), I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

OK, you sound like you own multiple 90 dollar blades.....if you started when you were 18 that is 5x90...450 bucks...it's very common around here that a Sebenza is carried and still in great shape after 10 years...and then you can send it back to CRK for a few bucks and it's ready for another dime.

Damn dude......how long is it going to take you to connect these dots. :yawn:

 

[Thalestin]

The problem may lie in the brainwashing that occurs in these forums.

Many people think that any and every knife, regardless of brand, should exhibit the following characteristics:

• PERFECTLY centered blade. If it appears one micron off, then it is flawed.

• A specific percentage of lockup, 50% to 90%, out of the box, depending on the users preconcieved notions. This is insane. (Personally, I prefer as little lock up as possible, it leaves more room for wear.)

• No blade play whatsoever! None! Not one nanometer!

Now that expectations have become completely unrealistic, enter CRK.
The word 'Perfect' is thrown around a lot. So, prospective buyers believe that is what they will get. Even if their last Al Mar, or whatever, was flawless, they expect a CRK to totaly knock their socks off. They seem to believe that 110% perfection exists.

It is interesting that the OP, who has written many threads touting the flawless perfection of the Seb. has only recently realized that his knife isn't all that after all. Or, maybe he is just seeing a problem that isn't really there, due to his unrealistic expectations. Since he didn't bring this flaw up immediately, upon purchase, it makes one wonder why the story has gone from 'this is the best knife ever', to, 'I'm disapointed'.
Perhaps the knife is flawed and he just wanted to believe otherwise for a time. I don't know. Either way, the story line doesn't add up.

Knifemakers must be wringing their hands seeing all the perfectly acceptable, within spec, returned knives that they see coming back to their factory with 'problems' that aren't really there. Can you imagine how many knives CRK will have returned if they give the impression that 'good enough, isn't good enough'? They will go out of business.

No need to bash me, not really needed or appreciated. Its not so much I am dissapointed with the knife, more that I sent it in for a fix and it came back the same way as I sent it. Had I been told that the uncentering was within spec and told that, i would have lived with it. True, I would have likely sold the knife, but I wouldnt hold it against CRK. I like how CRK has kept in touch with me, and I was called by CRK but I cant phone home back till I get a new cell next week (the voice piece got destroyed in the wash =P). Getting a personal call means a lot to me, and by no way do I think CRK is a crap company or they make crap knives. I got a bit unlucky and mine is a bit uncentered. Im a little anal with these things, but it functions fine. It does all the things a knife should do, but id like mine with a centered blade. Ill be getting a new phone after the holiday so CR will phone me back then. Ill let you know what he tells me. I think ill be told that some knives just arent perfect, and I agree. Life will go on, I more started this post as a vent, sorry if I have offended anyone. It wasnt my intention, was just letting out my frustration is all.

 

[Thalestin]

We still have not seen pics of the OPs knife.
I will hold any judgment until then.
I saw posted somewhere else once about how bad the QC on a knife was then after a couple days pics were posted and the problems were things I would not have even noticed.

I have posted pics a month or so ago when the original problem arose. Ill post them again for you guys. Hope this helps illustrate (sorry for the poor quality)

 

[SteelSnob]

I doubt you will be told some knives aren't perfect. I had the same problem once with the first Sebenza I ever owned and they fixed it and had it back to me pretty quick. Not too mention they sharpened it and reblastrd the handles for free too. CRK is the best of the best and unless there's something we don't know about this is a extremely minor problem for them to fix. CRK is the best of the best my friend and they will take care of you. One thing I do is send a email to Heather whenever I send knives in and she checks on all issues and requests I have before the knife leaves them. I do that on top of a note with the knife and it works great. Heather is the best and will work hard to make sure you're happy.

 

[SteelSnob]

We still have not seen pics of the OPs knife.
I will hold any judgment until then.
I saw posted somewhere else once about how bad the QC on a knife was then after a couple days pics were posted and the problems were things I would not have even noticed.

I have posted pics a month or so ago when the original problem arose. Ill post them again for you guys. Hope this helps illustrate (sorry for the poor quality)

Are those before and after?

 

[u812]

It is off center but it really would not bother me that much.
The second pic looks very close to dead center.

 

[Thalestin]

Are those before and after?

Nah, just different shots of the same thing

 

[Thalestin]

It is off center but it really would not bother me that much.
The second pic looks very close to dead center.

It isnt very close to dead center, it isnt the worst ive seen, but it isnt great at least by my standards. Its livable, but it is annoying considering the cost of the blade.

 

[Thalestin]

Just to help put the problem into perspective. On a perfectly centered blade the gaps on either side of the blade are equal at the very end on the knife. On my sebenza, the one gap is almost exactly twice the size as the smaller gap. I find it to be pretty significant--but it is probably just me. I am picky with my knives, ill admit.

 

[SteelSnob]

The good news is mine was almost touching one side of the inner frame and they fixed irlt to dead center. Email Heather letting her know of the situation and see what she says. If you send it back in email Heather first and she will oversee and make sure it gets done.