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jeepsrjason said:
This was taken from some FB comments in regards to asking if Guy was going to make a GSO in S35VN, "No, not really. Niagara is selling it in sheets now but this CPM-20CV exists because of me constantly nagging them and Crucible to make it for me. It is a domestically produced replacement for the Austrian grade, Bohler M-390, that I had been using. I really like the high corrosion resistance and edge retention of CPM-20CV over the CPM-S35VN." I hope that helps!
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That does help Jeep. S35VN has been around for a while, so I figured that there was a reason that he has not used it. The Bravo 1.5 is a thicker and heavier knife. What I like about Guy's knives is his philosophy of not going thicker than 3\16, resisting making a boat anchor with scales on it. However this requires a tough steel. He tried ELMAX, M390 and has now found a US equivalent of the M390 in the 20CV. But the bigger the knife, the harder people will thump on them. I am well pleased with my 4.1 example in M390. I guess I can wait for the 5.1 in 20CV. Since I already have 3V variants of the knife.
 
jeepsrjason said:
I'm pretty sure the machine marks and other little "imperfections" are left there on purpose to remind you that your S!K should be a user!:cool:

Anyway I'm loving my 4.1 and 7/7. I can't wait to finally get a 5.1.
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On that last pic of the 4.1, it looks like the top part of the tang and handle scales do not exactly line up. Is this the case, or is it just the picture? That 4.1 makes my mouth water...
 
The scales on one of mine didn't line up exactly perfect, but it was an easy fix. A pair of flat blade screwdrivers and you'll have it straight in a jiffy.
 
ridnovir said:
...scales are not flush with the handle, screws are not flush with the scales...
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Just like the machine marks, that's just the nature of the beast when a knife is assembled using pre-machined removable scales, instead of being epoxied together, bolted up and ground/finished as essentially one solid piece. Finer tolerances and finishes can be achieved of course, but that adds cost. It's an inherent difference in two different approaches to manufacturing process, and it's one reason many folks (myself included) generally dislike remo scales. (The other major one being a near-guarantee of moisture getting under the scales and causing corrosion, unless the whole blade is heavily coated.) Of course you can always fiddle with them and play with alignment.

But, it does keep costs down to a degree... and the option of selling additional sets of scales that can be swapped out quickly is very attractive to designers and consumers alike... so, there's that.

I certainly have no dog in the "fights" between any companies and their supporters. In fact, in the interest of full disclosure I should mention that I in fact compete with them, and make knives with very similar designs and materials. So by all means, take my comments with a grain of salt. :)
 
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james terrio said:
That's just the nature of the beast when a knife is assembled using pre-machined removable scales, instead of being epoxied together, bolted up and ground/finished as essentially one solid piece. It's an inherent difference in two different approaches to manufacturing process, and it's one reason many folks (myself included) generally dislike remo scales. (The other major one being a near-guarantee of moisture getting under the scales and causing corrosion, unless the whole blade is heavily coated.) Of course you can always fiddle with them and play with alignment.

But, it does keep costs down to a degree... and the option of selling additional sets of scales that can be swapped out quickly is very attractive to designers and consumers alike... so, there's that.

I certainly have no dog in the "fights" between any companies and their supporters. In fact, in the interest of full disclosure I should mention that I in fact compete with them, and make knives with very similar designs and materials. So by all means, take my comments with a grain of salt. :)
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I'm actually quite impressed at how closely fit the scales of those I've received, and indeed there is a light coat of mineral oil beneath the scales. And since the scales can be removed, any substances which DO get under can be easily cleaned out. Also the smaller blades are quite corrosion resistant, so less worry there anyway.

Keep up the great work, James :thumbup: I like your designs and may one day be a proud owner of a "Sidekick". The custom-maker sale area is a terribly tempting place ;)
 
james terrio said:
Just like the machine marks, that's just the nature of the beast when a knife is assembled using pre-machined removable scales, instead of being epoxied together, bolted up and ground/finished as essentially one solid piece. Finer tolerances and finishes can be achieved of course, but that adds cost. It's an inherent difference in two different approaches to manufacturing process, and it's one reason many folks (myself included) generally dislike remo scales. (The other major one being a near-guarantee of moisture getting under the scales and causing corrosion, unless the whole blade is heavily coated.) Of course you can always fiddle with them and play with alignment.

But, it does keep costs down to a degree... and the option of selling additional sets of scales that can be swapped out quickly is very attractive to designers and consumers alike... so, there's that.

I certainly have no dog in the "fights" between any companies and their supporters. In fact, in the interest of full disclosure I should mention that I in fact compete with them, and make knives with very similar designs and materials. So by all means, take my comments with a grain of salt. :)
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All the Tops and ESEE knives I have come across have perfectly fitted scales; my Beckers on the other hand rarely do. I had figured with these knives being semi-custom, made to order, the fit & finish would be better. The scale issue is a pet peeve of mine, but as you said its a risk you run when you have removable scales.
 
BigBert said:
On that last pic of the 4.1, it looks like the top part of the tang and handle scales do not exactly line up. Is this the case, or is it just the picture? That 4.1 makes my mouth water...
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The scales do not line up perfectly. It's barely noticeable and, for what its worth, the knife is canted(?) slightly forward in that pic so it definitely looks more obvious. All of my S!Ks are that way though.

Here's my uncoated GSO 7/7...
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I much prefer this look as compared to when the tang sticks out on purpose as on my Spartan Horkos...
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Just for fun, a size comparison pic for another forum. :)
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McVeyMac said:
This just in from Guy Seiferd: 'Package Shipped to You.'

I don't know if it is the 4.1, the 10, or both. I will follow up once received next week.

I have a question regarding the BRKT Bravo 1.5. I am looking for a stainless option in the mid sized knife. How does the S35VN hold up compared to the M390? The only knife that I have in this steel is a Socom Elite folder that I have not thumped on. I'm not sure that I have it in me to wait for a GSO 5.1 in 20 CV.
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Just got an email too, mine has to be the -10 since that's all I'm waiting on from him at the moment..
 
I got my 4.1 today. It took about a month so that's not too bad. This one is 3V and no jimping. The spine is much smoother on this one than the last one I got. I can hardly see any laser/machine marks anywhere. It's pretty smooth. The scales fit perfectly all around as well. It matches my 6. I'm waiting on a 3.5 in the same colors in 20CV.





 
All these posts without seeing even one knife that someone had put on a pair of nice WOOD grips .Stabilized of course to maintain the practical nature.
I've had my 4.1 for a while and took apart a deer [non of the others were interested in trying the knife ??? ] Good rugged design , I'll use it for whatever.
 
mete said:
All these posts without seeing even one knife that someone had put on a pair of nice WOOD grips .Stabilized of course to maintain the practical nature.
I've had my 4.1 for a while and took apart a deer [non of the others were interested in trying the knife ??? ] Good rugged design , I'll use it for whatever.
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I don't have any use for wood when the scales they come with work just fine. I cleaned several deer with my 4.1 this season.

 
Received with Guys July 4th discount in less than 7 days last summer.
Received a spare pair of G10 a week later.
One factor in my attraction to and purchase of this knife, is that it's rough finish has a few machine marks here and there, purposely not made to be pristine looking.
My personal experience with cust. serv. back in July was flawless.

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Happened at 3a.m. July, don't even ask how.
All healed up with barley a scar, though could have been worse... yes, they are very sharp.

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chambelona59 said:
My personal experience with cust. serv. back in July was flawless.
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Guy has been doing a much better job of communicating of late. He sent in email to what I guess was all 10 preorder customers describing the problems. At least I got one, and I appreciated it very much.
 
Here is my 1st generation GSO-10 that I used to chop through this fallen down tree. I really like this brand of knives and I also have a GSO-4 and a GSO-6.


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Looks like it was fun. If that fell in the back yard, I don't think that the GSO 10 would have been my first tool choice to cut it up. But clearly shows the capability of the knife.
 
The tree in the picture was actually in the park by my house. I have been eyeing the tree for the last couple of years and I told my wife that I was going to chop it in half and bring it home for camping firewood. I had a blast chopping it half.
 
Must be a summer pic, there's a couple feet of snow on the ground at my house ;)
 
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