And, Cold Steel wins....... as usual

Could care less about their hokey tests or that it beat a Sebenza we all know any CRK knife is better than anything cold steel could come up with. They’re best at being wacked through a log not much else. Not a cold steel fan find virtually every knife ugly and the only lock backs I care for are the Delica/Endura and Buck 110. They are priced well and a good hard use knife just not my thing
 
I think the lock tests are legit. It's just that the extreme strength of knife lock has little bearing on the usefulness of a knife. Once a lock is reliable and is strong enough for its intended purpose, further strength does not add value.

I have a couple of Cold Steel knives. Every once in a while they come up with a design that I like at a good price. But, extreme lock strength has zero input into my purchasing decisions.
 
knarfeng said:
I think the lock tests are legit. It's just that the extreme strength of knife lock has little bearing on the usefulness of a knife. Once a lock is reliable and is strong enough for its intended purpose, further strength does not add value.

I have a couple of Cold Steel knives. Every once in a while they come up with a design that I like at a good price. But, extreme lock strength has zero input into my purchasing decisions.
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Good point by Knarfeng, who if I remember correctly is an engineer, which lends his input a great deal of credence in my book. What gets lost in the shuffle of Cold Steel's weird videos is that they really do make some great knives. They use good materials in a lot of their models with good heat treats, and their knives slice very well and often come thin behind the edge. Cold Steel has great tools that can be used hard and are effective, and the Triad really is all its cracked up to be. Many can't get past the goofiness, and that is understandable.
 
I’m more influenced by tests that show me how a knife can increase my speed and reduce my drag.
 
:eek: If Cold Steel's Proof and comparison testing is so bogus why doesn't anyone ever disprove them ? And those that say they don't care but still bother to post a response , are not very believable . I like these type tests and wish that other manufactures would step up with their own . I smell fear ! :)
 
DocJD said:
:eek: If Cold Steel's Proof and comparison testing is so bogus why doesn't anyone ever disprove them ? And those that say they don't care but still bother to post a response , are not very believable . I like these type tests and wish that other manufactures would step up with their own . I smell fear ! :)
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The answer was posted before you even asked your silly question.
Danke42 said:
For the same reason why NASA won't debate flat earthers, why you don't play chess with a pigeon, and why you don't wrestle a pig.
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I don't want to jinx it, but I have NEVER had a folders lock fail.
 
DocJD said:
:eek: If Cold Steel's Proof and comparison testing is so bogus why doesn't anyone ever disprove them ? And those that say they don't care but still bother to post a response , are not very believable . I like these type tests and wish that other manufactures would step up with their own . I smell fear ! :)
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Cold Steel lock tests are the equivalent of a Ford Taurus being able to withstand atmospheric re-entry.

So what if it can? If the NTSB crash tests are equal among all cars, you’re good to go.

The point folks are making is that Cold Steel testing lacks applicability, not validity.
 
NorthernSouthpaw said:
The answer was posted before you even asked your silly question.
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The analogies aren't valid . These tests all involve comparable products in a competitive market . Consumer's Reports doesn't place certain brands of cars or refrigerators beyond testing because you happen to favor them or think they're special and above reproach .:rolleyes:
 
ATJ999 said:
I don't want to jinx it, but I have NEVER had a folders lock fail.
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I have, twice. But neither was really due to the relative strength of the lock. In both cases I would have been totally safe if the knife in question had been a slipjoint with a half stop.
 
I don't like Lockbacks and that's practically what they do, so even if I could hang hang two cars of a CS folder that is wedged into a skyscraper scaffolding I wouldn't care.
 
NorthernSouthpaw said:
This was probably one of the best responses to that test.

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I can’t stand Rob’s videos. I don’t know the guy so I won’t judge him personally but I can’t stand his videos. All locks are designed for the same reason: to prevent the knife from closing when faced with spine pressure. Cold Steel has a lock that is better designed to do that. He tries to disregard Demko’s lock stating it’s designed to beat those tests but other locks aren’t. That’s not correct. Those tests are putting pressure on the spine until failure which is exactly what every blade lock is trying to prevent.

As for the liner lock statement: any twisting pressure toward the lock side-frame or liner-will result in outward pressure from the hand on the lock. If I’m torquing my hand toward the lock bar, there will be force against the inside of the lock bar pushing outwardly.
 
DocJD said:
:eek: If Cold Steel's Proof and comparison testing is so bogus why doesn't anyone ever disprove them ? And those that say they don't care but still bother to post a response , are not very believable . I like these type tests and wish that other manufactures would step up with their own . I smell fear ! :)
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This.

They go on to say it's about applicability, not validity. And that further strength does NOT add value. In terms of value they are showing it to you. Watch this $400 dollar knife lock break compared to ours.

You shouldn't be saying that it's not something applicable that you will never use. They should be saying why is a $400 dollar lock collapsible compared to a $50 dollar lock. Not whether or not you have use for it or what you value it at. If you want true validity. Whether you have a applicable application for that is irrelevant.

I find it hilarious how the mall ninja company has the best folding lock over all the others. A lot of hate against them is just based on the gear they make and who it's marketed too.
 
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