Andrew Clifford Knives

[Rez_Dawg]

He did the exact same thing with me after selling it on the auction site: He sent the knife four weeks after I won the auction... He communicated with me as though he was a "nephew" of his... Numerous dumb excuses throughout the 4 weeks, that all sounded phony, the cherry being the last one, which was that he sent by mistake the knife to the wrong person, and then this person sent it back to him!!!...

He is basically using the auction site as a way of getting around the stigma of being a maker that is asking full payment up front, with the knife unmade, and the auction is basically about vaporware...

I suspected this, because the promised knife had no serial number, and it was supposed to have one...

The steel performed like absolute crap, so stay away. The sheath was beautiful though... He does "pimped up" Buckmasters, and those could be trusted I suppose.

Thanks for the heads-up about his new auction ID.

Gaston

The knife you purchased was made by me FOR my nephew. He purchased the knife like any other customer. He has quite a few and he wanted to let one go, big deal. You were told this. There was no "secret" behind it! WHO brought the auction to your attention? The knife was NEVER advertised as having a serial number ON IT and you know this full well. They are numbered on the COA, which you did get!

Same goes for Renegadeknives/Shavingsharp, you purchased a knife that was commissioned and went unpaid for. My nephew worked for me, as did a good friend of mine. BOTH of you were told this and many people already knew this. Again, no secret here. He was not to pose as me as this knife belonged to him. Creating the listing as if it is me, Andrew Clifford, that is selling these knives would be false and due to this overblown BS no one works for me on my listings and no one has access to our ebay account for this reason. The two of you are acting as if your sleuth work is saving people when all that took place here was two shipping mixups over one year apart! The mixups are similar due to the fact that I have website transactions and the occasional ebay transaction.

I hope the mods close this thread as well because you are a broken record, Gaston! Myself, many others have told you how your modifications are damaging to these knives when used in the manor of which you use them, minus the wrapping them in rags, socks and putting the down your pants. AFTER ONE FULL YEAR OF YOUR COMPLAINING ON BLADEFORUMS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A DELAY SHOULD BE NULL/VOID BY THE FACT THAT YOU STILL GOT THE KNIFE. It was delivered and you ruined it with your modifications. Put the right bevel on it and use it or sell it.

Renegadeknives/Shavingsharp same goes for you. You bought an existing knife that went unpaid for by the original buyer it was then offered up on ebay. One full year after dealing with Gaston's mix up the same scenario happened to you. Honest mistakes. If the focus was not the knife then why did the two of you buy the knife in the first place? Did you buy them just so IF by chance there is an issue/shipping delay that you will have something to bitch about for the rest of your lives? No. You bought the knives because you wanted them and you got them. There was a delay, but in the end they sit within reach, you got them.

If you each go to my website, instagram and Facebook like page you will both see what many have already seen, knew....my ebay account! LISTED...for ALL to see. Just an FYI

If you don't like my work then stop giving me FREE advertising because your bashing is having adverse affects, believe me!

-Andrew Clifford, ACK

 

[Rez_Dawg]

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Here Marty Gaston (or Jean Stravinsky, whoever/whichever this person really is) emailed me and asked me if my nephew was selling knives made by me, primarily in reference to the knife he purchased. The reason Jean/Marty thinks that the knife was not made, was due to the fact that my nephew used the pictures I had taken of the knife that were already on my website. It was the same knife!

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Above is my reply CONFIRMING that it was my nephew he had purchased the knife from. There was no attempt to hide it.

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Above is the APOLOGY sent to me via email by Jean/Marty. As you can see he takes no responsibility for the modicications, however, in all his replies in "the Hollow Handle Knife Thread", The "Trouble dealing with sooner boomer ebay" thread, the "BIG ASS KNIVES" thread he admits to having the bevel modified. I question that IF Jean/Marty has apologized WHY is he still carrying on with his bashing? I am told that this is his nature, his narcissistic behavior is prevalent in his attitude on the boardgamegeek.com website that he frequents. Below was my reply to Jean/Marty. The matter should have been closed from here. Perhaps it is time to seek legal advice. It doesn't hurt to see what they have to say.

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I really did not want to go this far, but we are going on 15 months of this bullshit from Jean, Marty, Gaston444 whatever his name really is!! I have ignored this guy long enough. The gloves need to come off. Now that Renegadeknives wants to pull the very same tactics ALL over simple, honest mistakes then I rekon I will have to pay this Bladeforums replies some more attention.

 

[shaving sharp]

I have edited my posts to reflect that I did receive the COA approx. one month after I received the knife. I hope you enjoy continued success Mr. Clifford.

 

[Fiddleback Outpost]

I invite you to take a few minutes to read the opposite side of the story. There is always 2 sides to the story. None of these buyers, except Demonbeast purchased a knife from me which the buyers designed. I took Demonbeasts job because he was a friend, although reading his venomous posts you may not be able to see that, but we are and we got passed it. Gaston444 & Renegadeknives/Shavingsharp purchased knives that were already made. JLeebron's knife is from my line of designs, and it's beautiful.

One thing I learned as a knifemaker that anytime another maker chimes in in favor of others without knowing the full story it can have adverse affects, which is why I don't get involved in situations like this. I am sure these guys appreciate you siding with them on this. ?

-Andrew Clifford, ACK

Thanks for your response Mr. Clifford. However, we would be amiss if we didn't point out that we're not a knife manufacturer. You likely have us confused with Fiddleback Forge - Andy Roy's operation. Fiddleback Outpost is a separate business operation owned and operated by three partners that are unaffiliated with Fiddleback Forge. We share the "Fiddleback" name as a couple of the partners are good friends with Andy and Andy's Fiddleback Forge knives are the first blades that we carried.

 

[Rez_Dawg]

Thanks for your response Mr. Clifford. However, we would be amiss if we didn't point out that we're not a knife manufacturer. You likely have us confused with Fiddleback Forge - Andy Roy's operation. Fiddleback Outpost is a separate business operation owned and operated by three partners that are unaffiliated with Fiddleback Forge. We share the "Fiddleback" name as a couple of the partners are good friends with Andy and Andy's Fiddleback Forge knives are the first blades that we carried.

Great merchandise, great knives. I believe I am following Andy on Instagram. Not sure. Thanks for the clarification. I had several people contact me regarding this BF thread that had the very same confusion, questions regarding whether or not I was 'on good terms' with Fiddleback Forge regarding the comments made. To me it's no big deal. Im sure we'll see each other around here on BF.

 

[Rez_Dawg]

I have edited my posts to reflect that I did receive the COA approx. one month after I received the knife. I hope you enjoy continued success Mr. Clifford.

Thanks Renegadeknives. I appreciate your efforts to come back NOW, only after I responded, in detail, to edit your replies. Better late than never, I guess. But there is still a discrepency in that "story"! As stated the COA was sent and should have either been received the DAY that you jumped on BF to further bash me, and sent me the last threatening email via ebay (October 21st, 2016) OR the following day, Saturday October 22nd - thru October 24th, 2016 as October 23rd was a Sunday. The knife was there in North Royalton Ohio on October 1st, picked up October 3rd. I guess 3 weeks can be a month? Again, the delay was due to us being out of town. I can't help but think that had I not responded at all that you might not have not come back here to let the BF posters know that you in fact did receive the COA. Sure, it was late, but you did receive it - with the best of intentions, effort to get it to you considering our situation. Again, I apologize for the delay. I am glad it is behind us. I would have preferred that you had been a little more receptive to the numerous apologies, offer for a future discount on knife/sheath work for my unfortunate, unintentional mistakes rather than a bashing session! But it is what it is.

It turns out we may have friends in common, Mike. that is if you are related to Mike R. the ex motocross racer turned photographer? Small world. I remember his father was in the same Dodge Dart/Duster forum that I was a member of some years back.

Anyhow, take care. I wish you all the ebay buying, re-selling success. I consider this matter closed. There is no longer a need for any further communication on this matter.

-Andrew Clifford, ACK

 

[shaving sharp]

You have the wrong guy do not know them.

 

[Mecha]

It's weirdly delightful to hear details about how Gaston444 doesn't know anything about knives. :thumbup:

 

[Rez_Dawg]

It's weirdly delightful to hear details about how Gaston444 doesn't know anything about knives. :thumbup:

He knows what he reads on the internet, regurgitates here on BF. READING, passing along other people's opinions that are just as misguided doesn't always hold up compared to those that actually MAKE knives, know the science behind it as we do it everyday. If he really knew as much as he says, lets on he would be a knifemaker himself. He doesn't do too much of his own modifying. I would urge anyone that is thinking about doing work for him, selling him any of their knives to steer clear because the money made from selling him anything will not be worth being heckled, trolled by, followed around by him on Bladeforums while he spews his ilk about your work -for going on 16 months now this is what I have had to deal with. I let a lot of it go because I sensed instability. It is a great thing how he laid out his case in "The hollow handle thread", "Doing business with soonerboomer ebay" thread & the "BIG Ass KNIVES THREAD", that actually helps the point I make.... HE made the ACK SLY II he purchased from us useless by doing what he did to it. The type of edge Gaston/Jean typically seeks is that of a box cutter razor blade, then he wants to chop with that edge, which I am more than certain you know, as well as many of us know, how that ends up?

I see he is jumping on/off this thread. I am sure it is just a matter of time before he lays out his response. It will be long winded, repetitive and no where in there will you see him take any ( not one lick) responsibility for what HE does himself or pays other makers to do to the knives he modifies. He sets them up to fail. Why he can't see, understand this baffles me!

BELOW: THIS is what my knives can do, how the edges/bevels, THAT I PUT ON MY KNIVES, can hold up. Photo credit: Roy Huffstetter

Roy can attest to how my knives perform, as can many, many others.

-Andrew Clifford, ACK

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[Karoi]

Myself, many others have told you how your modifications are damaging to these knives when used in the manor of which you use them, minus the wrapping them in rags, socks and putting the down your pants.

Maybe we all just don't realize the true genius that is Gaston. Due to the fact that he's damaged the bevels from his modifications, there's much less risk of the blades cutting through the rags/socks whilst down his pants and severing his......

 

[Armadew]

Don't sweat it, Andrew.

Gaston is well known around here for his....unconventional way of thinking.

 

[palonej]

Don't sweat it, Andrew.

Gaston is well known around here for his....unconventional way of thinking.

Very Politically Correct way of putting it!!
Joe

 

[craytab]

Don't sweat it, Andrew.

Gaston is well known around here for his....unconventional way of thinking.

Yup. No worries. Anyone who puts faith in what Gaston says you also don't want as a customer.

 

[Gaston444]

I think post #67 and #68 say all that needs to be said on this matter, keeping in mind that this was a "famed site" auction presented as an auction on an existing item:

the cherry being the last one, which was that he sent by mistake the knife to the wrong person, and then this person sent it back to him!!!...

Yep, that was one of the excuses he gave me. His nephew sent the wrong knife to another customer and it was part of the delay.

Amazing how the exact same mistakes keep happening to the same person...

Gaston

 

[Rez_Dawg]

I think post #67 and #68 say all that needs to be said on this matter, keeping in mind that this was a "famed site" auction presented as an auction on an existing item:






Amazing how the exact same mistakes keep happening to the same person...

Gaston

WEAK response:thumbup: Same mistake over one year apart. As busy as I am It happens. Shavingsharp/Renegadeknives and I put this situation between he and I to bed...READ it. You are crying 16 months after the fact that you had to wait, but you still received the knife. So, your REAL complaint is basically the fact you had to wait. The complaint about the edge is your own doing for ruining the edge with your modifications.

I think it's funny how the same FAILURES continue to happen with your "expert" modifications done to these knives, yet you still CONTINUE to do these modifications. I also think it's FUNNY how you apologize one month then spend every waking moment months after trolling my social media pages, website and continue to beat the same old dead horse of a situation by crying about it, STILL, here on Blade Forums......

If you start sending me naked pictures THEN it will all make sense lol.

I think post #82 speaks volumes.

-Andrew Clifford, ACK

 

[Rez_Dawg]

You have the wrong guy do not know them.

Thanks for the clarification. Take care, thanks for following up that you did get the COA. Take care.

-Andrew Clifford, ACK

 

[Rez_Dawg]

You have the wrong guy do not know them.

Thanks for the clarification. Take care, thanks for following up that you did get the COA.

-Andrew Clifford, ACK

 

[Quiet]

I think post #67 and #68 say all that needs to be said on this matter, keeping in mind that this was a "famed site" auction presented as an auction on an existing item:






Amazing how the exact same mistakes keep happening to the same person...

Gaston

Did the right people get the right knife? Looks to me like the answer ultimately was yes. So, that was clearly a mistake, not maliciousness.

Sounds to me like you don't like the fact that Mr. Clifford absolutely broke his foot off in your exit chute over your habit of ruin...sorry, modifying your knives and then blaming others when they don't hold up as designed. That's just dumb. I mean, not as dumb as putting a gym sock over a huge sheathe-knife and stuffing it in your crotch dumb, but pretty dumb nonetheless.

 

[austonh]

Oh for sure, it's a complete coincidence. It couldn't be that they are scumbag liars and thieves who have the support of Jim Skelton, Tzvy Morais, and EpicSnuggleBunny just to name a few.

While I appreciate the love, I have never, and will never, recommend that anyone pay upfront. In fact, I have gone on several rants about the subject on the podcast which I co-host to warn others of the dangers of pre-paying; for anything from knives to home repair.

I am still owed money by Alex Dietz (who also has mega-threads on his BS), and have written it off as an expensive lesson learned at this point. While it's true that I commented on Tzvy's video regarding him making an interesting case for Turpin, I never recommended anyone buy from Turpin as I never will.

Since my expensive lesson learned with Dietz, the only knife I have even put a down payment on was a Munroe, but his reputation is stellar by all accounts so I was not concerned. If there any makers whom you feel that I've supported, that are unsavory individuals, please let me know.

Cheers

 

[palonej]

While I appreciate the love, I have never, and will never, recommend that anyone pay upfront. In fact, I have gone on several rants about the subject on the podcast which I co-host to warn others of the dangers of pre-paying; for anything from knives to home repair.

I am still owed money by Alex Dietz (who also has mega-threads on his BS), and have written it off as an expensive lesson learned at this point. While it's true that I commented on Tzvy's video regarding him making an interesting case for Turpin, I never recommended anyone buy from Turpin as I never will.

Since my expensive lesson learned with Dietz, the only knife I have even put a down payment on was a Munroe, but his reputation is stellar by all accounts so I was not concerned. If there any makers whom you feel that I've supported, that are unsavory individuals, please let me know.

Cheers

When I watched Tzvy's vid it pissed me off because of his condescending attitude towards the people who got ripped off by DT.
He states people are calling DT a bad guy, while giggling. Dustin Turpin is not a bad guy......he's a lying thief.
What I took from that vid was.......maybe he ripped off some people, but I got a bad ass knife and couldn't care less.
Pissed off quite a few people here.
Joe