Any Winkler fans?

David Nowlin said:
Anyone speculate on what would be the best replacement steel Winkler could use if 80crv2 was to become unavailable? Just a hypothetical.
Also not trying to complicate maters for Daniel and change “tradition” but is there a steel any of us Winkler fans would love to see in one of his blades.
I would be surprised if this topic hasn’t already been come up but i haven’t seen a thread on it?
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Cruwear ...
 
Love Cruwear. Great choice. I also like CPM M4
Higher carbon steels for ability to develop a patina, natural or forced.
Like post #1241 for example.
That said untreated 80CrV2 is very very patinable. (👈🏻not a word) forced or naturally.
 
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Hammer67 said:
CPM 3V with a good heat treat continues to be one of my favorites for an outdoor blade. It's not the latest and greatest, but does a lot of things very well. And I'd be just fine with Winkler ditching the blade coating and going to a low-reflectivity sandblasted finish. Offer a DLC version for the dudes who need to be extra stealthy.
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FWIW Winkler knives don't have any sort of blade coating. The blades are darkened using a black oxide concentrate from Caswell Plating. Its just an etchant thats a mix of phosphoric acid, selenious acid, nitric acid and copper that turns the blade black by creating a dark oxidation layer.
 
Arathol said:
FWIW Winkler knives don't have any sort of blade coating. The blades are darkened using a black oxide concentrate from Caswell Plating. Its just an etchant thats a mix of phosphoric acid, selenious acid, nitric acid and copper that turns the blade black by creating a dark oxidation layer.
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Ok, well, the "oxidation layer" then. It's something that buffs off with use, and therefore I think of it as a "coating," even if it technically isn't.
 
David Nowlin said:
Anyone speculate on what would be the best replacement steel Winkler could use if 80crv2 was to become unavailable? Just a hypothetical.
Also not trying to complicate maters for Daniel and change “tradition” but is there a steel any of us Winkler fans would love to see in one of his blades.
I would be surprised if this topic hasn’t already been come up but i haven’t seen a thread on it?
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What I like about my Winkler is thougness/resistance to chipping and how easy it is to sharpen or just strop back to sharpness. Therefore, 14c28n or something similar for same-ish thoughness and ease of sharpening, with the added bonus of beeing almost stainless. But I would miss the patina..

A8mod would also be a good high thoughness/easy to sharpen steel, and while not stainless has more corrosion resistance than 80crv2. I see Casström have some production models in a8mod now
 
Hammer67 said:
CPM 3V with a good heat treat continues to be one of my favorites for an outdoor blade. It's not the latest and greatest, but does a lot of things very well. And I'd be just fine with Winkler ditching the blade coating and going to a low-reflectivity sandblasted finish. Offer a DLC version for the dudes who need to be extra stealthy.
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Winkler made some 3V knives once. Unfortunately, impossible to get at reasonable cost. AEB-L, Cruwear, 3V, I'd take any of these .... heck, even A2 is pretty stain resistant for me.
 
I had the opportunity to get one of the special 3V Belt knives from a dealer site but I had a belt knife already. I contacted Winkler if a person could order 3V and they said those were a special run for a dealer. For one of my most used knives I would definitely pay more for the upgrade to 3V plus it is so much better in the rust department.

For the breaching axes and tomahawks I would also be happy with 3V where some of the other steels I would be searching for used 80CRV2 as it has proven to take some serious abuse and keep going.
 
With Winkler doing some limited editions that i have only recently learned about but you/they would tell me they have always been doing limited knives i could see them doing “sprint” runs with a different steel now and then.
That said Winkler is very successful doing what they are doing. Don’t fix it if it ain’t broke.
 
ferider said:
Winkler made some 3V knives once. Unfortunately, impossible to get at reasonable cost. AEB-L, Cruwear, 3V, I'd take any of these .... heck, even A2 is pretty stain resistant for me.
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IIRC, one of the reasons WK uses 80crv2 is their in house heat treating. All of the 3V Winklers were sent out for HT. I don’t remember where, but that significantly limited the shops output for those batches.
 
Actually that Strike Force Winkler is starting to tug at my heart strings. Damn YouTube!
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I rather didn’t like the sculpted multicolored handled but this I didn’t notice when i was there. I like a Maple handle.
Since I’m budget limited pending my wife’s retirement i will scrimp and save for at least one WK a year. So it’s gotta be special.
 
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