Apology PLEASE READ

I've bought probably 35 knives from various folks throughout this site without a single problem.

You are a lucky man. I have only made 3 deals and one of them was an attempt to scam me. It wasn't on this forum and luckily I got my money back but for the month that I didn't have my money it was the only thing that I could think about.
 
I'm not riled up. I have morals, but that and 50 cents will get me a cup of coffee, huh?

Huh. Keep it up. I just found an infraction for trolling with your name on it.

This forum is for information, warnings, and opinions. Constant, deliberate insults you can post in Whine & Cheese.
 
That's fine bro. You have had some beef with me for the last seven years anyway. I have never understood exactly what it is that makes you tick. Whatever makes you feel good, go for it. sogtrident7 did.

Edited to add: For the sake of accuracy, it's only been five years, not seven.
 
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I believe we should try and keep the discussion limited to the issue at hand. It's all good to discuss all the other problems we may or may not have had making purchases here on BF. This case is different, just because you got screwed over once doesn't mean that this guy isn't going to do right.

I commend the OP for his apology, and that he is making the appearance of doing right. I won't (and can't) judge the OP for anything that he has done in the past. I sincerely hope that the OP will return the money owed.

I must add that I am ashamed to call myself a member of this community when I see posts suggesting that they would wish the OP dead. I can handle the trolling and flaming from time to time (even though it belongs in the W&C) but wishing someone dead? That's just way too far.
I hope that in the future this thread will remain open with intelligent conversation and logical (dare I say rational) arguments. Perhaps I demonstrate my naiveté with respect to the Internet at large, but I hope to be proven correct -- the Internet can be a place of intelligent conversation, and rational thought.
 
You see man, I do know where the OP is coming from. Recovery brought me out of my hopeless downward spiral fifteen years ago. Am I perfect, not by a long shot.

The fact remains, this thread was posted because he got caught. If you believe anything else you are deluding yourself. It's nice that he's man enough to admit to his dope sick behavior, but without repercusssions, he will do it time and time again, here, and in real life.
 
It's called enabling, and for the life of me I can't see what good it's going to do anybody on BladeForums.
 
Shawn B, I don't know if you're taking a cheap shot at me or what. God teaches that we (I) must forgive but I don't have to trust the OP to do business with or to rub elbows with. I agree (and I can't believe I'm seeing eye to eye with :)) four_shore posting below:


thanks man.

we've had our differences but that's something that i am willing to forgive :)

this whole scam story turned my stomach though...
 
You are a lucky man. I have only made 3 deals and one of them was an attempt to scam me. It wasn't on this forum and luckily I got my money back but for the month that I didn't have my money it was the only thing that I could think about.

What are you talking about?
I was expressing my personal experience making intelligent, well researched (although perhaps at times a bit spontaneous :rolleyes:) purchases on THIS site.
Luck has had nothing to do with not being ripped off.
Stop being silly and practice some due diligence. ;)
 
So as soon as sogtrident7 repays Jason, or a reasonable amount of time has passed without him doing so, he will be banned?

I certainly hope so.

Let him rebuild his character somewhere else if he can. And while I sincerely hope he can, I for one think he has burned his bridge here. It would be irresponsible to expose the good members here to a known threat like him.

This adequately expresses my feelings on the matter, but more tactfully than I probably would have presented it. The OP's confession now cannot outweigh the offense of the dishonesty he committed beforehand, at least not at this time. The overall balance still comes out very much in the negative as far as I can see.
 
I can't personally figure out the impetus for the apology -- it either represents a total con or a very sincere and positive lifestyle alteration. I am a forgiving person, and a wrong righted is worth quite a lot more than a wrong ignored. Luckily, the situation did not lead to any physical harm or permanent disability or hardship for the affected member. So there's that. But I don't know if it's enough, and I haven't earned the right to vote on the matter in these forums. I will only say this: BF is the most civilized internet forum I've ever been a part of, and the mods must do whatever they can to keep that civility intact.

I have no doubt they will make the correct decision.
 
The great folks here outnumber the lowlife rejects 5000 to 1. I can't fathom why a thief would get any support, on any level. Has it ever happened before? If so, I'd love a link to the thread where a fellow committed PREMEDITATED THEFT and got a free pass.
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http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/734221-Larry-Harley-Lonesome-Pine-Knives

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/916285-Warning!-quot-gosh-quot-Giarsun-Kung-burglar!

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/915582-Ryan-Myrda-(TacticalBlade)-is-a-Thief
 
I still don't really get how this is becoming a con, or in that matter something other than what it is. I made a horrible choice, not a mistake but a decision. I wrote an appology to people who where directly involved and an explanation to everyone else. If it wasn't sincere I would'nt have bothered. I don't see how in any way there is something to be gained or I guess conned for me out of this. I admitted everything. I am under very close scruitiny and I will ask once more that the mods put a link or some sort of something on my signature so people are aware of my transgretion. If I wanted to con or cheat there would have been better ways to go about it. I re-register under different name address and get her done. I don't really care who wants me kicked off, if it is the wish of the THEY than it shall be. I guess call me on the con if u see me in the exchange with someone who doesn't know of this and I don't tell them. One last time I DO NOT WANT TO TRADE OR DO BUISNESS HERE. The time may come way down the road but that is not why I am here. One more time again I AM NOT HERE FOR SYMPATHY FORGIVENESS, OR TO BE FORGOTTEN. I confessed my wrongs will make it right and Jason the mods and I go from there after restitution. It would have been much easier for me pay him and vanish into the night rather than dred climbing on here again this morning to see whoelse hates me and loves to put it in black and white. Also let me get this straight, you think it would be better for new members who are on the fence about trading to just ban me rather than the 7 pages of fire, and everyone seeing this out to the end and everyone seeing how when you do something like this, this is what happens, also this kind of thing I think show's how if anything you guys come together as a community for the most part, and by most part I mean Brandon who looks down his nose at me and wishes syphillus on himself. I laugh at his use of the word recovery because people with your attitude and views are nothing more than abstinent and miserable, and btw good job on almost making yourself look as bad as me. I think well liked members like you who can't help but shoot off their mouth all the time and condemn others for not sharing their narrow minded views tend to scare off newbies almost as quickly as I. I would rather wake up every day with my drug addled mind than your blatenly obvious miserable, judgemental one, I have a chance, if this is you after 15 years, your f'd. I'm sorry I digressed, I think this thread is a very useful thing to the community and I believe as far off track and nasty it's gotten at times the mods understand that and that's why they have even allowed it to continue. No matter how you slice it, it is very clear how my sort of behavior will be tollerated, and how I now have a label on me that may never go away. It shows that I didn't respect and honor the gift that was this site and you people, and that I regret it. I guess from well wisher to hit by a bus guy everyone can take something from this, even if it's simply adding one safegaurd to their trading process. Well I guess I'm done so go ahead and disect this post and pull out of it that it's one big con and I really don't care and will never make it right. Old news. I guess at this point if you cant stand that I'm here don't click it. If your clicking it to tell me I should die a miserable death and after that be banned and pissed on I really don't care and you are the farthest thing from the reason I want to be here anyway, so save it. Time will tell what will happen I know alot of people on here believe thay are pyscic and know the outcome, but the odd part is the only people that seem to have this next level power seem to be pretty negative, condemning fellas..
All I really ask for is a chance to stay here long enough to make things right and then go from there.
 
Also by making these posts I voulenteered to be the punching bag for everyone who has had something stolen from them. I knew that going in and I can't say I would be any different. Probably at best highly skeptical.
 
Just words. Your apology means nothing until you have made your victim whole again.:thumbdn::thumbdn:
 
Fixed it for your drug addled mind! :D

I still don't really get how this is becoming a con, or in that matter something other than what it is. I made a horrible choice, not a mistake but a decision.

I wrote an appology to people who where directly involved and an explanation to everyone else. If it wasn't sincere I would'nt have bothered. I don't see how in any way there is something to be gained or I guess conned for me out of this. I admitted everything. I am under very close scruitiny and I will ask once more that the mods put a link or some sort of something on my signature so people are aware of my transgretion.

If I wanted to con or cheat there would have been better ways to go about it. I re-register under different name address and get her done. I don't really care who wants me kicked off, if it is the wish of the THEY than it shall be. I guess call me on the con if u see me in the exchange with someone who doesn't know of this and I don't tell them.

One last time I DO NOT WANT TO TRADE OR DO BUISNESS HERE. The time may come way down the road but that is not why I am here. One more time again I AM NOT HERE FOR SYMPATHY FORGIVENESS, OR TO BE FORGOTTEN. I confessed my wrongs will make it right and Jason the mods and I go from there after restitution. It would have been much easier for me pay him and vanish into the night rather than dred climbing on here again this morning to see whoelse hates me and loves to put it in black and white.

Also let me get this straight, you think it would be better for new members who are on the fence about trading to just ban me rather than the 7 pages of fire, and everyone seeing this out to the end and everyone seeing how when you do something like this, this is what happens, also this kind of thing I think show's how if anything you guys come together as a community for the most part, and by most part I mean Brandon who looks down his nose at me and wishes syphillus on himself.

I laugh at his use of the word recovery because people with your attitude and views are nothing more than abstinent and miserable, and btw good job on almost making yourself look as bad as me. I think well liked members like you who can't help but shoot off their mouth all the time and condemn others for not sharing their narrow minded views tend to scare off newbies almost as quickly as I. I would rather wake up every day with my drug addled mind than your blatenly obvious miserable, judgemental one, I have a chance, if this is you after 15 years, your f'd.

I'm sorry I digressed, I think this thread is a very useful thing to the community and I believe as far off track and nasty it's gotten at times the mods understand that and that's why they have even allowed it to continue. No matter how you slice it, it is very clear how my sort of behavior will be tollerated, and how I now have a label on me that may never go away. It shows that I didn't respect and honor the gift that was this site and you people, and that I regret it.

I guess from well wisher to hit by a bus guy everyone can take something from this, even if it's simply adding one safegaurd to their trading process. Well I guess I'm done so go ahead and disect this post and pull out of it that it's one big con and I really don't care and will never make it right. Old news. I guess at this point if you cant stand that I'm here don't click it. If your clicking it to tell me I should die a miserable death and after that be banned and pissed on I really don't care and you are the farthest thing from the reason I want to be here anyway, so save it.

Time will tell what will happen I know alot of people on here believe thay are pyscic and know the outcome, but the odd part is the only people that seem to have this next level power seem to be pretty negative, condemning fellas..

All I really ask for is a chance to stay here long enough to make things right and then go from there.
 
I can't fathom why a thief would get any support, on any level.

If we don't forgive, will those that cause harm continue to cause harm? Support can come in many ways, but it doesn't have to include forgetting. OP is not asking to forget, but instead to forgive.

It's not a religious forum, but every faith has a call and duty to forgive. It's good for both the sinner and the sinned against. Remember, it's much easier to hate than to love. I as many of you have had horrible things happen to me caused by others with selfish motives. Without growing past this and maturing my life would be death.

I rely on faith that we are connected, and must exist together.
 
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