Are Busse knives the only high end production knives actually being used?

LukeTheSpook said:
I just don't think comparing those two knives, which are worlds different, is very valuable. You asked if anyone used knives other than busse. It was kinda answered. Busse stands alone with what they do well. That is rarely disputed.



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you went a step further and made a statement that you didn't think there was any information that a busse could do that. you could have just left it at, yes here is a cool vid. So my response was yes, the B9 is actually lesser cross section and less metal to resist bend and fracturing. That is why I answered your post. But I agree, CS's 3V is good. I have one. I just do not care for the handles.
 
Cobalt said:
you went a step further and made a statement that you didn't think there was any information that a busse could do that. you could have just left it at, yes here is a cool vid. So my response was yes, the B9 is actually lesser cross section and less metal to resist bend and fracturing. That is why I answered your post. But I agree, CS's 3V is good. I have one. I just do not care for the handles.
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Negative sir. I said (or meant) I couldn't find any information on a busse that is similar to an SRK. Meaning I can find any videos of a busse with a 1.5" wide 6" blade thinner than. 2" thick.

I still haven't seen any videos of an infidu, hog muk, or any of the smaller busses. Just the big chopping bad asses.

I want to see some pics of badger hard use

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511 (the MO FFG version) would be close to an SRK (I have an SRK I got in the 80s and like it a great deal), if the RMD grip is too small then the R6 is basically the RMD with some 'roids.

Andy
 
Andy the Aussie said:
511 (the MO FFG version) would be close to an SRK (I have an SRK I got in the 80s and like it a great deal), if the RMD grip is too small then the R6 is basically the RMD with some 'roids.

Andy
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I'd like the an RMD with the Ratweiler handles! The 80's? Are you sure? Surely the handles would have disintegrated long ago! Hehe.

Ok, someone find a 511 being abuse. I'm considering buying something medium sized in infi just to make a video. Haha.
 
LukeTheSpook said:
I'd like the an RMD with the Ratweiler handles! The 80's? Are you sure? Surely the handles would have disintegrated long ago! Hehe.

Ok, someone find a 511 being abuse. I'm considering buying something medium sized in infi just to make a video. Haha.
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:thumbup:Right on Do it, I would love to see the video :D
 
Any Miller Bros knife in Zwear or 3v and comparable to the thicknesses, blade lengths and edge grinds will perform as good as, if not better than, any Infi Busse sized similarly.

They are backlogged order- wise but they have regular listings and models. They'll build a custom as well. And since most start at roughly 300 or so, that fits the thread criteria.

I like both brands and respect their designs. I also own many of each. Is one "better" than the other? No, they are two different companies with two different styles. Their goals are similar in that both strive to produce blades that can withstand damn near anything.
 
I agree rcb. But you know.....that INFI pride sets in rock solid, and comes with a ton of confidence.
 
LukeTheSpook said:
I'd like the an RMD with the Ratweiler handles! The 80's? Are you sure? Surely the handles would have disintegrated long ago! Hehe.

Ok, someone find a 511 being abuse. I'm considering buying something medium sized in infi just to make a video. Haha.
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.... mine no, had other knives that still got more use, the twin that came with it, yes, it went to a mate in the ADF and the grip eventually did fail.
 
LukeTheSpook said:
Negative sir. I said (or meant) I couldn't find any information on a busse that is similar to an SRK. Meaning I can find any videos of a busse with a 1.5" wide 6" blade thinner than. 2" thick.

I still haven't seen any videos of an infidu, hog muk, or any of the smaller busses. Just the big chopping bad asses.

I want to see some pics of badger hard use

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Ok so lets talk cross sectional area. The SRK has a 1.2" wide, 0.2" thick blade. It is sabre ground for .5" from the spine and then tapers down to the edge for the remainder. If you measure the cross section of this blade it is 0.17 sq. inch. Now lets take the B9. I measured mine at 0.24" thick and just shy of 1.4" wide. Since it is flat ground it tapers from the spine all the way down to the edge. I measured the cross sectional area to be 0.168 sq. in. Surprisingly their areas are nearly identical, the SRK has more cross sectional area. But that does not tell the whole story. The sabre grind makes for more lateral stiffness. The Sabre grind also provides for more steel near the edge. Because the angle of the blade is much larger than the B9. So in essence, the SRK is stiffer and has more steel down to the edge with the same cross sectional area. So it has an advantage over the B9. So why would you compare a Razor like the hog muk le to a literall prybar like the SRK?

So the B9 and B10 are actually less metal near the edge and have a little less cross sectional area. The SRK is beefier. Not to mention that it is shorter so you cannot great the same lever angle or as much chopping force.
 
You lost me man. You are really looking for conflict on the Internet. I guess that was the point of the thread, and a lot of your posts all on BF.

You've blown me away with your knife knowledge. Oh, and geometry. I concede. The basic 9 is way better than a $100 cold steel. There are still hard use videos of the cold steel though and more people use them than any busse. Hard, even.

Turns out I'm not a cold steel fan, I'm a busse fan. I'm just very critical of some of the things said about them.


And you are also 100% right that busse owners are the only people that use knives.

You should watch the South Park episode about Harley Davidson riders. It reminds me a lot of you if one replaced Harleys with busses



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Not critical at all. Just talking geometry. That is all. I basically never attacked you, and I don't think you attacked me. I like the SRK, but I know it has failings, one of which is the handle. All I know is you got real defensive about your SRK. I just stated facts. The SRK is a tough knife, no doubt about it. But I did state that the SRK vs the B9 would be apples to apples as far as strength or toughness Certainly would not be apples to apples in a chopping contest as the B9 is longer.

Luke just reread your last post and mine above. I did not know that discussing math and geometry is considered causing conflict. I just thought it was common knowledge that people knew that a sabre ground blade will have more metal than a flat ground blade the same thickness and will have about the same metal as a slightly thicker blade. At the expense of cutting geometry. Some think the sabre grind is better at chopping and splitting than the flat grind. I think both have advantages.
 
Eh, when I hold an SRK in one hand and a basic 9 in the other, Im not holding two apples. No matter what those numbers say.

But like i said, there's no reason to compare those two knives. The only thing they have in common is there are videos of them being used.


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LukeTheSpook said:
Eh, when I hold an SRK in one hand and a basic 9 in the other, Im not holding two apples. No matter what those numbers say.

But like i said, there's no reason to compare those two knives. The only thing they have in common is there are videos of them being used.


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Agreed. The B9 is a longer knife and a chopper. The SRK is a shorter knife that is extremely stout that you can pry with and do all kinds of hard stuff with. But they both have similar cross sectional areas and thus can be compared in a toughness test where length does not matter.
 
oh YOu already know I beat on the stuff I make don't play.

Chopping cinder blocks with Zwear and CPM3V steel knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmW_AkrErAA

Z-Wear Steel Survival Knife part 2 (look at and testing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8tUcCQwQWg

CPM3V Wakichoppee aka "Grinch" field test. part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5iNXGChowc

Chopping in the Beautiful Fall Northwoods (3 of 3) CPM3V vs Screw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD7DWnoJtn4&index=13&list=PL92WSsB__s8mjhHmMvN3qAVO_nuC2HgP5

Cutting nails with Z-wear and CPM3V tool steel knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srETAmOwL10
 
engineerciv said:
^^^MBB are some SERIOUS hard use knives...if Busse didn't exist, they would certainly be my go to. I have a HUGE dagger from them that I feel like I could poke holes in the side of an aircraft carrier with. Most beautiful edge I have ever seen put on a knife as well, but they currently are not accepting orders at LEAST until the new year. They have an incredible backlog right now.
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Agreed! If BUSSE were not there, MBB is where it's at! Good call!


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gsx-rboy750 said:
oh YOu already know I beat on the stuff I make don't play.

Chopping cinder blocks with Zwear and CPM3V steel knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmW_AkrErAA

Z-Wear Steel Survival Knife part 2 (look at and testing)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8tUcCQwQWg

CPM3V Wakichoppee aka "Grinch" field test. part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5iNXGChowc

Chopping in the Beautiful Fall Northwoods (3 of 3) CPM3V vs Screw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD7DWnoJtn4&index=13&list=PL92WSsB__s8mjhHmMvN3qAVO_nuC2HgP5

Cutting nails with Z-wear and CPM3V tool steel knives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srETAmOwL10
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The chickens were glad it was wood and not their necks you were hacking, lol
 
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