Are Spyder Holes Liabilities?

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I can't help wonder just how many of these "Broken" Spiderco's aren't actually cheap fakes?
 
RockCowles said:
I had a discussion at the Blade Show a few years ago with a very well known knifemaker about testing factory knives to the point of failure. He said Spydercos did horrible due to the Spyder Holes taking a big chunk out of the blade right by the spine and weakening them. I think the Spyder Hole was pretty revolutionary when first used, but would seem obsolete when we have flippers (Thanks, Kit Carson, RIP) and thumbstuds. It looks like a trademarked liability to me now. I have owned and liked many Spydercos, but I never EDC them as my sole knife. I do not abuse my knives and can tell the difference between them, hammers, and prybars, but we do not always choose our circumstances and life threatening events. I do my best to remain knowledgable about brittle steels, bad design, and faulty locks. I was wondering what others think about the Spyder Hole and does it exclude Spyderco from their line ups.

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Sounds like a jealous knifemaker trying to subtly bash Sal.
 
It's fairly obvious that Rock is just trying to inflate his ego just a little bit. I sure hope he gets something good for Christmas, like some respect or maybe even a website that has a better design (pretty ironic for someone who fancies himself a "designer").

Nonetheless, this troll has spoken and there is little to be brought from this thread. May the name Rock Cowles go down in BF history...
 
Rapt_up said:
Yup... It is actually its a bigger weakness than a hole with the same minimum radius, given a blade with the same minimum sectional area of the blade.

If one is going to pick on a silly point to try and shill a design its best to make sure the design isn't even more flawed... LOL...

I have post graduate education (Masters courses in Mechanical Engineering from one of Canada's most prestigious universities) on this subject (fracture mechanics), if you choose to question my expertise, then feel free to take four years of Mechanical Engineering and then we can discuss the post grad material in depth. :)
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Pssshhh, this guy runs some FaceySpace groups, he knows more than you do. LOL
 
dejavecu said:
Why are you being so condescending? OP had a legitimate question. Also, engineering and applied physics are two different fields.

Yes, it matters that it weakens the blade.
There is no possible way for any manufacture to foresee the extent "normal" use. There's an acceptable failure rate, not from abuse, with any product that the company accepts rather than spending more on R&D.

Also, look at how much companies celebrate their knives' locking strength. There's a certain point that something is going to give.
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Could you be more effing pedantic? You're attacking the definition of applied physics? For the record, if you don't think engineers utilize applied physics and applied mathematics, then you're just as much of a nitwit as OP, you sperg.

To OP, you're clearly here to shill your product. I read the first post, checked your profile, googled your knife, and knew immediately before reading the second post that you were going to bring up your design.

As someone stated previously, the burden of proof is on you. In any discussion or debate, a person makes a claim, then uses supporting evidence to bolster and prove said claim. You haven't done any of that. Here, I will write you a template that my communications class uses:

-Introduction
-claim
-argument 1
-evidence
-argument 2
-evidence
-argument 3
-evidence
-restate claim
-conclusion
 
Pushing your own product by bashing an industry leader is not a good way to boost sales. I for one will never be buying one of your knives now. Whether intentional or not it looks bad.

I did like the question. As someone who owns spydercos I was curious about what others would have to say about it. Throwing Ken Onion under the bus is really not cool either. Even if he did tell you that (which seems very hard to believe).
 
This is oddly simular to the Mantis Army stunt of 2011?

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After the "event" it destroyed what little credibility they had left. Looks like Combative Edge is on my list of never buy.
 
Yo Mama said:
This is oddly simular to the Mantis Army stunt of 2011?

😱

After the "event" it destroyed what little credibility they had left. Looks like Combative Edge is on my list of never buy.
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Maybe the whole thing was just a false flag by Spyderco to make Combative Edge look like weasels and make no one want to buy their stuff! Brilliant! :D

Or just Rock thought we were stupid and figured he could slip some free advertising in without anybody noticing.

The latter is probably the simpler explanation. Occam's razor..
 
Personally I'd rather own a number of spyderco knives than one of those combative edge knives. Looks like it's nothing but a toy, meant for flipping while you're just sitting there watching tv. It definitely doesn't look like a tool meant for any kind of work.
 
I just threw all of my Spydercos into the ocean and immediately purchased a Combative Edge™ PX-41. I never really considered the fact that any day now I'll be using my knife as an impromptu jaws of life. I'm really glad that I am prepared now that I have a Combative Edge™ PX-41. Thank you, RockCowles!
 
This thread was a Christmas miracle! I've read the whole thing while eating nuts by my fire. I don't think spyderco is going to recover from this onslaught.
 
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brancron said:
I just threw all of my Spydercos into the ocean and immediately purchased a Combative Edge™ PX-41. I never really considered the fact that any day now I'll be using my knife as an impromptu jaws of life. I'm really glad that I am prepared now that I have a Combative Edge™ PX-41. Thank you, RockCowles!
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I think that says it all. :D
 
I've been usning knives in one form or another my entire life and still haven't been able to break one. That includes one and a half year in the military service in the Swedish navy, working as a butcher for a couple of years and hiking/camping as long as I can remember.

Exactly what CUTTING task brakes a knife - hole in the blade or not? Knives doesn't make for very good shovels. If necessary I recommend to use your hopefully sharp knife to make a pointy stake even more pointy and use that instead!

/ J
 
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