Are there any premium Chinese steels?

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marcinek said:
No, you're not. He's Hong Kongese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongkongers

Glad you're sure the actual Chinese people are great even if they are Communists. I'm sure they appreciate it.
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I was being sarcastic about Jackie Chan, although I do love his movies. And of course I think on the whole Chinese people are great. I think all people are great. I'm sure many Chinese don't like their government, but what can they do? I'm certainly not going to hold their government against them.
 
DrHenley said:
Like I said before, it's political, not cultural. Did you even read the article on the One China Policy? It's a very complex situation politically and almost incomprehensible to Westerners. Taiwanese are most definitely culturally and ethnically Chinese whether they admit it or not.
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"Whether they admit it or not". Thankfully we have you to tell me that my friends from Taiwan are wrong. LOL
 
GatorFlash1 said:
Is that so? What language do they speak?
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You still have not grasped the concept of different countries, political systems, and how economies work in regard to the vast differences between China and Taiwan. At this point I doubt you ever will, and that is sad because these concepts have a real impact as it relates to knives, particularly related to price. Oh well...
 
Quiet said:
Every Taiwanese person I've spoken to in person considers themselves Taiwanese, despite the fact that they speak Chinese and have Chinese origins....They do not consider themselves Chinese,
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There can be no doubt that the Island
we know today as Taiwan
https://taiwantoday.tw/news.php?unit=20,29,35,45&post=25821
is officially known as The Republic of China.
It is the last bastion of the chinese nationalist party which lost political control of the mainland to Mao's red forces who now run the mainland collectively known as The People's Republic of China.
Despite being relegated to a small island, Taiwan's kuomintang still hopes to recover their lost mainland... thus the bitter dispute of the two Chinas each seeing themselves as the righful heir to a unified china.
Taiwan's RoC is now largely administered by taiwanese island born Chinese.
Then there are of course the taiwanese tribal peoples who are the island's original native lnhabitants and quite culturally distinct from the chinese.
So yeah, i understand the confusion, not all Taiwanese are of a 100% Chinese msinland descend even though they may understand and to some extend look and speak the Chinese language. Perhsps its kinda the island of Okinawa in relation to the Japanese situation :)
 
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marcinek said:
This post nailed it. Hit it out of the park. Chinese manufacturing is run by the same principles as any other country's manufacturing.
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same principles, very different culture, a culture that has different rules on how they approach business.
 
I really dont know what to say except...
@Blues Bender...you forgot this steel on your list....





:)
 
GIRLYmann said:
There can be no doubt that the Island
we know today as Taiwan
https://taiwantoday.tw/news.php?unit=20,29,35,45&post=25821
is officially known as The Republic of China.
It is the last bastion of the chinese nationalist party which lost political control of the mainland to Mao's red forces who now run the mainland collectively known as The People's Republic of China.
Despite being relegated to a small island, Taiwan's kuomintang still hopes to recover their lost mainland... thus the bitter dispute of the two Chinas each seeing themselves as the righful heir to a unified china.
Taiwan's RoC is now largely administered by taiwanese island born Chinese.
Then there are of course the taiwanese tribal peoples who are the island's original native lnhabitants and quite culturally distinct from the chinese.
So yeah, i understand the confusion, not all Taiwanese are of a 100% Chinese msinland descend even though they may understand and to some extend look and speak the Chinese language. Perhsps its kinda the island of Okinawa in relation to the Japanese situation :)
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Seems to me that a lot of the "bitter dispute" comes from China's Communist Party wanting to take back over what is clearly an economic powerhouse. Not really a big shocker there.

Anyway, hopefully, while we were debating their existential stance, some folks in factories there were cranking out more excellent knives for Spyderco and Cold Steel! :D
 
Yes, a win-win policy for both parties would be to fully engage in industry with the best possible resources to "make winable knives, not war"...
Well, at least that might be what the majority of knifenuts here would fully support ;--)
 
Quiet said:
Nah, I'm good with their view of themselves. :)
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Well, that's just it. I don't think you comprehend what they mean when they say they are not "Chinese."

95% of the people in Taiwan are Han Chinese. It matters not what they think of themselves, it's a simple fact.
 
DrHenley said:
Well, that's just it. I don't think you comprehend what they mean when they say they are not "Chinese."

95% of the people in Taiwan are Han Chinese. It matters not what they think of themselves, it's a simple fact.
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I'm not concerned with what you think I do or don't comprehend. What I comprehend is that there's a guy trying to tell me his opinion as though it's a fact. It's boring. Meanwhile, I've spoken to actual people who are from Taiwan. Soooo...let's see...who to believe, actual people, or a faceless stranger with 106 posts. Exactly.

In any case, this has been a severe derailment from the main point of the thread, which has been about Chinese steel.
 
DrHenley said:
Well, that's just it. I don't think you comprehend what they mean when they say they are not "Chinese."

95% of the people in Taiwan are Han Chinese. It matters not what they think of themselves, it's a simple fact.
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Well of course Taiwan is made up of Han Chinese. That is the origin of Taiwan everyone knows. They were created by the exiled government of China when the Commies took over. But to say they and China are one and the same is incorrect and quite honestly an insult. I mean, if you’re going to do that, you may as well call Americans British
 
You know a moderator is going to move this to the wine and cheese section unless we get the focus back on knives, knife steel, etc. That's always a shame for anyone who has already taken the time to write such content.
 
I'm sure there are premium Chinese steels, as in their own formulations that have great properties.

However, I don't know what they are, and no one else here probably does either.
Hence, we won't be seeing them on any knives any year soon, because they wouldn't be able to charge extra for the premium steels, since no one buying them would know how great those steels were.
 
One of the common traits of Chinese D2 is very low vanadium content, but since D2 has pretty wide ranges for its formula you can go pretty low and still be “real” D2, albeit with too little vanadium to do much good.
 
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