Atwood Prybaby - should I get S30V or titanium?

What for example would you pry with it? I am an electrcian for a concrete production company, I would imagine I could come up with some use for one, but would like to hear some examples.
 
MBWirenut, do a search for "prybaby" and you'll get a lot of threads in which people describe the uses.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
Hence the problem, unlike forums like Swordforums in which they do, because it is the ideas which are being discussed not the people. Thus the level of dicussion is far superior because it is centered on facts and not individuals. Spend some time there on the Metallurgy forum and watch the level of information flow. As for getting over it, there is nothing to get over, I am simply pointing out absurd behavior. You can of course continue to propogate it, and encourage others to do so and if the main body of the forums supports it then it will continue.

......Though I doubt that all moderators would support your viewpoint on those three issues.
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Cliff,

Not to deviate too far from the subject, but since you are, let me be brief.

I was on SwordForums before I ever heard your name, starting in 1999, about as long as you have been a member here if I read right.

I left SwordForums as an active member because the idiotic newbie questions were causing smoke to come out of my ears. The usual " can a katana cut through a gun barrel?" and "who can make me a reverse curve katana?" I was located at the JSA Forum, and the General Forum, not Metallurgy, because.....

IF I want answers to a metallurgical question, I can call Phillip Baldwin, Kevin Cashen, Howard Clark Dan Maragni, or Ed Schempp on the telephone, so can you if you are not too cheap to flip for the phone call, or if you are, you can e-mail.

You don't need to parade your superior intellect for all the world to see, it is just a stroke job. As far as the Moderators approving my statements, I'll bet most of them would, especially where you are concerned.

Now, most makers that I know, that are considered QUALITY makers, would set your beard on fire if you perservered with the pedantic questions that you specialize in, simply because you are annoying, and that is all of the excuse that they need.:D

I am pretty sure that if you were at Blade, and Peter was there, he would have HIS step-daughter beat you up!:eek:




STeven Garsson
 
just cliff being cliff FWIW.

also FWIW after reading thru this i can say one thing for sure, atwood isnt interested in making prybabies outta anything but S30V and ti, for whatever reasons.

with a tool as short as a prybaby i doubt very seriously what steel its made of is gonna matter much, just not enough leverage with the short handle to break/bend the thing imho.

soooo, the debate over the best steel for the prybaby is irrelevent.
 
mamba-man said:
Someone else to ignore :barf: Plonk.

Cliff, I find your posts often quite interesting.
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I thoroughly hope that you do put me on ignore, NEWB. You WOULD like Cleft!

You don't deserve to read my posts. About the only place you DO deserve to be in is Political or Whine and Cheese, this also describes the content of your postings, thus far.

STeven Garsson
 
SIFU1A said:
atwood isnt interested in making prybabies outta anything but S30V and ti
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If he used another steel, could he make them cheaper, or is the majority of the cost in labor?
 
Mr. Garsson, is this really the behaviour you want Blade forums to be known for?
 
The idea that one steel grinds easier than another always makes me laugh. It all grinds the same more or less especially if you use top of the line belts. When someone makes a statement like that I have to wonder if they have ever ground anything at all.

Don't make me unleash Joanna on you all. :D

Anyway, enough with the petty arguments. It really serves no purpose. I'm not going to stop making Prybabies out of whatever I feel like using and my reasons have been spelled out previously in this thread.
 
They are a bit too dear in my eyes, for what they are. I'd like to have bought a few, but not at those prices.
 
Kohai999 said:
I thoroughly hope that you do put me on ignore, NEWB. You WOULD like Cleft!

You don't deserve to read my posts. About the only place you DO deserve to be in is Political or Whine and Cheese, this also describes the content of your postings, thus far.

STeven Garsson
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Come on just get over yourself. Don't think that because you are a paying member that you are better than anyone else
 
Kohai999 said:
IF I want answers to a metallurgical question, I can call Phillip Baldwin, Kevin Cashen, Howard Clark Dan Maragni, or Ed Schemmp on the telephone, so can you if you are not too cheap to flip for the phone call, or if you are, you can e-mail.
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I do email them on occasion, but vastly prefer public commentary for a number of reasons for those directly connected to the industry. Private conversations are problematic for information exchange for reasons that Cashen has covered in detail in the current thread on Swordforums in regards to his article on hype.

Unless a person is willing to make a public support of their viewpoint then it is more hype than substance. This obviosly loses some people who just don't want to deal with the conflict that comes from exposing hype, but in general there are far more people spreading hype so the result is a net gain generally.

This is no different of course than asking a maker what can be expected of their knife. Ask many in private and see what is claimed and then ask them in public and see what will actually be supported.

Peter Atwood said:
The idea that one steel grinds easier than another always makes me laugh. It all grinds the same more or less especially if you use top of the line belts. When someone makes a statement like that I have to wonder if they have ever ground anything at all.
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So you would argue that all the makers who charge more for S30V than other stainless in the same knives have no basis to do so as they are all equal in cost to obtain, grind, heat treat and finish? Note one of the big promotions of CPM154CM over S30V was that CPM-154CM is easier to grind. Crucible has in fact recently argued that one of the reasons that S30V may be chipping so much is that it is so hard to grind makers may be over heating it during finishing.

-Cliff
 
You mess with peter ... you might as well be messing with chuck ... and we all know where that leads!

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Cliff So you would argue that all the makers who charge more for S30V than other stainless in the same knives have no basis to do so as they are all equal in cost to obtain said:
lol, i cant vouch for what peter thinks, but as far as what he said he said that 1 steel was no easier to grind than another, i wouldnt doubt that FWIW.
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mamba-man said:
If he used another steel, could he make them cheaper, or is the majority of the cost in labor?
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i would say the majority of costs is labor,

i would say he isnt interested in a "cheaper" or more affordable prybaby for whatever reasons.

IIRC he said that he was only gonna make them in Ti or S30V.

sooo i would say anyone looking for say a ATS34 prybaby (or 440 prybaby, or....) is SOL.

ya could either make one yourself, use a small prybar from homedepot, do without, or by a S30V or Ti prybaby.

i just dont see whats so hard to understand about all of this.

FWIW i dont have and have actually never even seen a "prybaby" in either S30 or Ti, or kryptonite either for that matter . oh wait a minute kryptonite isnt available lol.

only S30V or Ti. why? because atwood said so and he makes them.
 
For the money I'd rather buy a knife. Prybaby-type tools are strictly a luxury, and even though I could afford one, I won't, on principle. The principle being that I pay a fair price for goods I receive. I believe Atwood uses the metals he uses (S30V and Ti) purely to try to justify the high prices he charges. He's quite entitled to do that and good luck to him.
 
mamba-man said:
For the money I'd rather buy a knife.
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That's very interesting. Please go through all the old threads in the forum and post in all of them that are about things you consider overpriced.

Please do that in the Custom Knife Forum, too.
 
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