Axis lock patent

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danthaman1980 said:
Not to be pedantic, but patent status is anything but static; an answer to this question even two or three years ago might have been completely different than it is today, and old posts wouldn't cover any new info. What if the patent had expired recently? What of there had been a recent court case with new info? Hell, I don't even think anyone on the forum has posted or knows anything about the Utica vs Benchmade case, and that was only settled two years ago.
Don't flame on someone looking for the latest and greatest info, especially on a forum where OP seems to be playing by the rules, has apologized for derailing his own thread with extraneous and somewhat polarizing info, and has acknowledged those statements aren't really relevant to the question.
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You have a point. Unfortunately for Leo, he threw himself on the sword, bringing up a lot of stuff before anyone else did, and generally thrashing around the thread making a mess of it. However this topic has been brought up many times in the last few months, so its not as though it would have been hard to find, and you know that had there been any change, it would have been very easy to find on the forum as someone would have brought it up. If anyone knew.
 
gadgetgeek said:
You have a point. Unfortunately for Leo, he threw himself on the sword, bringing up a lot of stuff before anyone else did, and generally thrashing around the thread making a mess of it. However this topic has been brought up many times in the last few months, so its not as though it would have been hard to find, and you know that had there been any change, it would have been very easy to find on the forum as someone would have brought it up. If anyone knew.
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Yes... in retrospect, i think i should have searched more. I googled and most were from pre-2016. So I asked. Then to my surprise people started saying I work for Ganzo, or supporting them, or all sorts of speculations on my motive for asking.

And the answer is... i was just curious, and wanted to use my knowledge in Amazon to help out an American brand. Didnt know asking this some how taboo here.
 
Leo3an said:
Yes... in retrospect, i think i should have searched more. I googled and most were from pre-2016. So I asked. Then to my surprise people started saying I work for Ganzo, or supporting them, or all sorts of speculations on my motive for asking.

And the answer is... i was just curious, and wanted to use my knowledge in Amazon to help out an American brand. Didnt know asking this some how taboo here.
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And that's fair, But you are talking like you've been here longer than just a month or so. Its not taboo, but you brought more drama into it than was needed.
 
And you keep going gotta get the last little snip.
I didn’t know asking was taboo, I didn’t know this was frowned upon , this is just me asking, maybe there is a better place to ask,
Do your own research and form your own opinion Whenever anyone askes about anything, I was asking because maybe someone might be a lawyer or knows it for sure, asking about the patent is “start stuff over a subject that is a sore subject , So what if it was discussed before? Because you dont like the question, it can only be asked once?, Should I ask somewhere else, could i ask a question about liner lock? Or do you find that offensive and inappropriate too? place to ask such a question , asking about axis lock patent, I got curious, i asked., So I asked.

Feel free ask away. Oh you have this is you asking in just this thread. Answers were given and explanations given but you just keep hammering it. BM doesn’t seem to worried about it atm. Don’t know how much more can be said
 
In my defense, emotional & senseless response deserves a snip.

And no, just because someone has been in the forum longer doesnt mean they deserve more respect. What, did you think newly joined people shouldnt talk back to gracious members who have been here 10 years? Im sorry, some people get zero respect, regardless of how many years they have been here.

It would have been a more mature move to not respond to idiotic replies... but i couldnt miss the opportunity to toy with them.
 
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Leo3an said:
In my defense, emotional & senseless response deserves a snip.

And no, just because someone has been in the forum longer doesnt mean they deserve more respect. What, did you think newly joined people shouldnt talk back to gracious members who have been here 10 years? Im sorry, some people get zero respect, regardless of how many years they have been here.

It would have been a more mature move to not respond to idiotic replies... but i couldnt miss the opportunity to toy with them.
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Nice at least you proved all of the people telling you it’s a worn out subject correct. You know keeping on the subject just to toy with people. Trolling is trolling new or old member it’s all the same. Good luck here seems like you’re off to a great start.
 
gonebad395 said:
Nice at least you proved all of the people telling you it’s a worn out subject correct. You know keeping on the subject just to toy with people. Trolling is trolling new or old member it’s all the same. Good luck here seems like you’re off to a great start.
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Thanks. What i meant about toying was the snips. The question was legitimate. Someone says something dumb, i just point it out. Not trolling.
 
Leo3an said:
Yes... in retrospect, i think i should have searched more. I googled and most were from pre-2016. So I asked. Then to my surprise people started saying I work for Ganzo, or supporting them, or all sorts of speculations on my motive for asking.

And the answer is... i was just curious, and wanted to use my knowledge in Amazon to help out an American brand. Didnt know asking this some how taboo here.
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Here is the best information i can give you without being an insider. The original patent was filed, and has a priority date in 1996. The priority date should have started the clock on the 20 years. i cant see any evidence of prosecution delays, however i might have overlooked them. Even with prosecution delays it would be hard to see a prosecution extension much beyond 20 years past the publication date. Benchmade seems to be following a strategy of filing continuations in part to claim enhancements to the original patent. One of the patent attorneys i work with tells me this is a strategy, but not considered a fantastic one. All that said, my patent tracking software shows the patent as in force. The software could, of course, be out of date.

Asking a question is not taboo. This one has been asked many times starting way before the patent hit 20 years from the priority date. It was usually asked by someone seeming to be just curious, who then went on to talk about how Ganzo isn't so bad because the patent was out of force. While you did not specifically do this, you have spent a lot of time derailing your own thread going on about how everyone hates China and is flaming you. You flamed yourself. I have done the best i could to answer your question and will now hit the ignore button, which i probably should have done earlier.
 
OK - enough already. I assume warnings won't work and this posting has been reported. Time for closure.
 
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